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Post by Being Alive on May 28, 2022 10:42:35 GMT
Could Bonnie & Clyde transfer in? It would definitely fit I’d think because it has a limited set so the wing-space wouldn’t be an issue. It’s not a huge venue to fill but not sure if there’s the demand for it. The remainder of the Arts run seems to have sold quite well after struggling a bit in the beginning. Oklahoma would also be a good fit here if they change it to the proscenium arch version that’s touring the US right now, although from seeing the production it would lose a lot being staged in a traditional way in my opinion. If they bring in Jeremy Jordan, maybe. But I don't think they could sell the NC on the current cast |
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Post by Jon on May 28, 2022 10:54:15 GMT
I think Delfont Mackintosh would have to be really desperate if they had to bring in Bonnie and Clyde. It's more likely to be a play that's done well elsewhere.
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Post by Rory on May 28, 2022 11:34:57 GMT
I think Delfont Mackintosh would have to be really desperate if they had to bring in Bonnie and Clyde. It's more likely to be a play that's done well elsewhere. The Noel Coward is prime estate, it will have any number of shows to choose from if something hasn't booked it already (Jagged Little Pill perhaps?). |
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 28, 2022 11:39:05 GMT
I think Delfont Mackintosh would have to be really desperate if they had to bring in Bonnie and Clyde. It's more likely to be a play that's done well elsewhere. The Noel Coward is prime estate, it will have any number of shows to choose from if something hasn't booked it already (Jagged Little Pill perhaps?). Jagged Is Going To The TRAFALGAR STUDIOS Shall I have this printed on T-shirts for y’all ? |
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Post by TallPaul on May 28, 2022 11:43:52 GMT
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 28, 2022 11:45:57 GMT
The TRAFALGAR STUDIOS No Longer Exist Whatever it’s called these days.. Trafalgar Theatre |
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Post by alece10 on May 29, 2022 14:43:31 GMT
Very late to the party but finally saw the film today. So glad i saw the musical before I saw the film as it would have put me off totally.
I found the film very slow and long. Didn't grab my attention at all and, for me, didn't work as a film musical.
On the other hand really enjoyed it in the theatre especially with the amazing Sam Tutty in the lead role.
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Post by mrnutz on May 30, 2022 8:00:41 GMT
Sad to hear this is closing. I've seen it twice in the last few months and will try to revisit once before it goes.
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Post by scarpia on May 30, 2022 18:26:22 GMT
Maybe the perception of it being a big hit was just that: a perception. Even before the pandemic it completely bombed in Toronto. That's not to say it wasn't a success as 3+ years on Broadway is still a healthy run but not a Hamilton or a Book of Mormon type hit, Sorry, probably wasn't being clear that I was specifically referring to the London production seeming to be a big hit but not really. Looks like the show has been a hit on Broadway, even if it doesn't turn into a long-runner (which it would never do as the material in it will date easily); did they recoup there? |
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Post by Jon on May 30, 2022 19:01:05 GMT
Sorry, probably wasn't being clear that I was specifically referring to the London production seeming to be a big hit but not really. Looks like the show has been a hit on Broadway, even if it doesn't turn into a long-runner (which it would never do as the material in it will date easily); did they recoup there? Broadway recouped within its first year. Even with the pandemic closure, it's done very well for an original musical. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2022 19:06:04 GMT
I don't think the movie would have had much impact as barely anyone saw it or even knew it existed.
I think due to covid we never saw the natural decline after the initial rush of its popularity over the first 6 months to a year. So it reopened and those who wanted to had seen it and it was no longer the hot new show in town. Plus there aren't enough tourists to help sustain it.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 7, 2022 17:07:56 GMT
Closing on Broadway too on September 18th
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Post by partytentdown on Jun 7, 2022 17:08:28 GMT
Also closing on Broadway. That movie has a lot to answer for!
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Post by danb on Jun 7, 2022 17:28:26 GMT
I think people have just seen through its manipulative pseudo emotion and it certainly weakens with each visit. Day seats etc have a lot to answer for when it comes to the likes of DEH because I think once you’ve ‘felt’ it, it is rarely that good again, but the temptation is to go back for ‘only’ £25 just in case it does it again. First time I was underwhelmed due to Sam having laryngitis, second time from the worst seats ever just grabbed me and I felt every word & emotion conveyed, leading us to go back on day seats for a matinee which was just ‘meh’.
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Post by JJShaw on Jun 7, 2022 17:55:58 GMT
I'm simultaneously surprised and not surprised it is closing on Broadway, it seemed to have a much stronger footing over there. There was a very interesting article about it closing early in Toronto, about how it kicked out Come From Away which had been doing stellar (I assume it was a contract thing), died a death after 6 months and CFA came back.
People always say a movie kills the stage production but is this the first time we're actually seeing that? Chicago, Les Mis, Phantom etc their movies didn't impede the closing, Mamma Mia ran for a while on Broadway post movie before closing, can anyone this of a time where the movie did kill the stage show?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 18:39:47 GMT
I think people are vastly overestimating the movies impact. It was a massive flop that barely anyone saw. Vast majority of theatre goers won't even know it exists.
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Post by stuartmcd on Jun 7, 2022 19:15:09 GMT
I think people are vastly overestimating the movies impact. It was a massive flop that barely anyone saw. Vast majority of theatre goers won't even know it exists. That could be part of the problem though. It went from Dear Evan Hansen the critically acclaimed award winning show, to Dear Evan Hansen the critically hated box office flop. People don’t need to have seen it to know what the general consensus and opinion on the film was and it’s that opinion that will be fresher in the general publics mind. I don’t think it’s the only reason not at all. But it definitely won’t have helped. Whereas a good movie would have potentially boosted the box office. |
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Post by Raven on Jun 7, 2022 19:21:41 GMT
I really don't think the movie is truly responsible for the show closing. As people have already pointed out, a lot of people didn't even know it even existed as it's never been widely promoted or even advertised on streaming services (I found it on Apple tv but had to search for it specifically). The overall mood and tone of the show is probably not what people were rushing to go and see when coming out of a pandemic, plus danb makes a great point that once you've seen it, there's no real incentive to see it again. I just think DEH has just naturally come to the end of its run, with a smaller target audience compared to other shows and with the not so uplifting storyline. |
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Post by edelweiss on Jun 7, 2022 19:45:30 GMT
MickeyJoTheatre has done a good video on this, he makes some interesting points (some which have been mentioned here already):
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Post by Jon on Jun 8, 2022 0:53:44 GMT
The film probably didn't help but I suspect the appetite for angsty musicals has waned from 2016 when it debuted to now.
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Post by anthony on Jun 8, 2022 6:00:38 GMT
I still maintain that its biggest problem is that the stage show itself just isn't very good... I remember before it came to London, people, theatre fans and non-theatre fans were *obsessed* with the cast album. I was too. And I've genuinely never been more disappointed in a production ever. Cast aside, which were largely good, the plot itself (especially the ending) is just poor. It's a big problem when you realise that the main character is just a vile person... there is no likeability there. I remember a lot of the comments here being similar too.
I've seen it twice - once towards the end of previews and again just before the first lockdown and genuinely was really disappointed in both. I don't think Sam Tutty is great, either - both times I saw it, he was vocally very shaky and in some places was just outright screaming the lyrics. All hype, little substance.
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Post by theatreliker on Jun 8, 2022 6:10:53 GMT
Groundhog Day was robbed
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Post by stagebyte on Jun 8, 2022 6:41:57 GMT
Some describing it closing as ‘a flop’ on this board
Can we describe it such?
DEH began its Broadway run on Nov. 14, 2016, and opened Dec. 4, 2016. At the time that it closes, it will have played 21 preview performances and 1,678 regular performances. West end incarnation opened in 2019. 21 months of shutdown due to Covid
Compare this to Cinderella which lasted less than a year and opened to ‘critical acclaim’
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Post by stuartmcd on Jun 8, 2022 6:53:00 GMT
Some describing it closing as ‘a flop’ on this board Can we describe it such? DEH began its Broadway run on Nov. 14, 2016, and opened Dec. 4, 2016. At the time that it closes, it will have played 21 preview performances and 1,678 regular performances. West end incarnation opened in 2019. 21 months of shutdown due to Covid Compare this to Cinderella which lasted less than a year and opened to ‘critical acclaim’ In my post I called it a flop but to be clear that was in reference to the film not the stage show. I think on Broadway it has had a pretty decent run. |
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 8, 2022 10:59:53 GMT
The amount of people who saw the film was minimal as it had such a limited release - it was theatre people and not a lot else - so we can't blame the film for its demise.
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