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Post by nottobe on Jun 22, 2023 14:19:18 GMT
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Post by Jon on Jun 22, 2023 14:23:05 GMT
I don't think it was ever likely for the Autumn just because it would have been announced by now if it was.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Jun 22, 2023 15:18:01 GMT
Given this is a limited season and ends next January it could mean a run next spring in the west end |
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Post by shownut on Jun 22, 2023 15:33:32 GMT
Given this is a limited season and ends next January it could mean a run next spring in the west end All we can really go by at this point was an interview two weeks ago with their lyricist, Jake Shears who said "'Tammy Faye' is going to go on to have a good life, hopefully, knock on wood. It's going to go in its next iteration. I can't really say any details." It's promising that something is happening and they still have a holding page for the website - but while I would like to see a West End transfer, there were a number of Broadway investors seeing the Almeida production so ya just never know where its next 'iteration' might be..... |
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Post by BVM on Jun 23, 2023 8:11:21 GMT
David Furniture was on Velma Kelly (Beth Rigby) Interviews last night and said that both Tammy Faye and The Devil Wears Prada are planned "soon." I mean could mean anything, but there we are.
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Post by shownut on Jun 23, 2023 9:17:13 GMT
David Furniture was on Velma Kelly (Beth Rigby) Interviews last night and said that both Tammy Faye and The Devil Wears Prada are planned "soon." I mean could mean anything, but there we are. I assume you mean David Furnish. :-) I did hear rumblings a couple of months back that PRADA was looking for a West End theatre. Lets hope Jerry Mitchell can work magic on PRADA like he did with KINKY BOOTS that also had a disastrous Chicago preview but went on to be a pretty decent musical. As for TAMMY FAYE, having just listened to that interview he said moving to "a bigger theatre next year" so will guess that is West End as well (I hope). |
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jun 23, 2023 19:06:22 GMT
Jan's inclusion also means too many 'kooks' spoil the broth. At the Almeida, every character was dialed up to 11 for broad comedy. We had a southern gothic monster like Jan Crouch, and worse, a preening, pirouetting Billy Graham, which made zero sense and wasn't really funny. Because of so many broad, played-for-laughs characterisations surrounding her, the essence of Tammy's sweet-natured but odd-balled buffoonery, matched with make-up you could see from space, gets lost. She needs to stand out above the rest and I hope the new iteration dials down the secondary character clownery and goes a little more for the heart. Less could be so much more and I look forward to seeing what they do with it next. I loved the 'preening, pirouetting Billy Graham' I thought he was great. If he was played as dull as the real Billy Graham was, he wouldn't be able to deliver 'Light Of The World' in the way that it needs. Also, BG is at the start of the show and Tammy Faye has barely started her story, so I don't see how he drags her down. Jan and Paul on the other hand, need to be dialed down by 95% or cut completely, along with their awful song in Act 2. |
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Post by shownut on Jun 24, 2023 8:40:51 GMT
Jan's inclusion also means too many 'kooks' spoil the broth. At the Almeida, every character was dialed up to 11 for broad comedy. We had a southern gothic monster like Jan Crouch, and worse, a preening, pirouetting Billy Graham, which made zero sense and wasn't really funny. Because of so many broad, played-for-laughs characterisations surrounding her, the essence of Tammy's sweet-natured but odd-balled buffoonery, matched with make-up you could see from space, gets lost. She needs to stand out above the rest and I hope the new iteration dials down the secondary character clownery and goes a little more for the heart. Less could be so much more and I look forward to seeing what they do with it next. I loved the 'preening, pirouetting Billy Graham' I thought he was great. If he was played as dull as the real Billy Graham was, he wouldn't be able to deliver 'Light Of The World' in the way that it needs. Also, BG is at the start of the show and Tammy Faye has barely started her story, so I don't see how he drags her down. Jan and Paul on the other hand, need to be dialed down by 95% or cut completely, along with their awful song in Act 2. I still think BG character and the song should have more 'religious fervor' and less camp. If you surround a quirky, campy character like Tammy Faye with a setting where everyone else is either OTT or an oddball, we lose what made her special. The many evangelists springing up around that time from Billy Graham to Jimmy Falwell, Pat Robertson and Jimmy Swaggart all had one thing in common: a serious but slightly jarring persona that made you pay attention even if you didn't care to. That was what made Jim and Tammy such a draw - they broke from that devoutly serious mould and made preaching fun, entertaining, accesible and warm...which made the quite them quite a target as they became more and more successful. Totally agree about Jan and Paul and hope we see less of them in the revised version (and that "Run This Show" goes into the scrap heap). |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 2, 2023 7:58:08 GMT
Any updates on a transfer? No. Absolutely silent. |
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Post by westendwhistledown on Oct 2, 2023 8:02:13 GMT
Heard it’s going to Broadway first. Then we can just pray it comes over here
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Post by dlevi on Oct 2, 2023 9:20:45 GMT
Heard it’s going to Broadway first. Then we can just pray it comes over here That's a dangerous move on their part - the Americans I know who saw it here disliked it intensely, yet most Brits thought it fun. With US democracy currently hanging on by a thread a light-hearted musical about some of those who undermined democracy might not be what the audience over there wants right now. |
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Post by shownut on Oct 2, 2023 9:57:09 GMT
Heard it’s going to Broadway first. Then we can just pray it comes over here That's a dangerous move on their part - the Americans I know who saw it here disliked it intensely, yet most Brits thought it fun. With US democracy currently hanging on by a thread a light-hearted musical about some of those who undermined democracy might not be what the audience over there wants right now. It is currently listed as 'in development' for Broadway on Theatrical Index so I would imagine that the show your American colleagues hated is not the show that Broadway will see in its next iteration. On a side note, I am from the US and adored it, not because I thought it was perfect but because there was a lot to like and it had great potential. In terms of how Americans might have received the Almeida version, the NYT gave it a very positive/encouraging review. The NY Post was less kind but the less said about that tabloid and the hack currently reveiwing on their behalf, the better. You are correct about US democracy hanging on a thread but I wouldn't try and gauge what Broadway audiences will/will not cling to in today's climate. Yes, the show is about the rise of conservative Christianity and its integration into the GOP/American politics, but the central story is about a woman who rose above all that to embrace EVERYONE including those her fellow 'Christians' would have nothing to do with. Despite the worst of everything happening around her and to her, she always carried on smiling, singing and with a ton of heart and loyalty to her faith....and with make-up you could see from space. Like others here, I look forward to it's next chapter. |
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Post by shownut on Nov 1, 2023 7:12:07 GMT
TAMMY FAYE Broadway bound "very soon"?Latest update: Andrew Rannells was on Andy Cohen’s “Watch What Happens” last night and was asked by a caller about working with Elton John and whether TAMMY FAYE would be coming to Broadway. Rannells replied that Elton “was around a lot and worked very hard on the show” and that there was a "big possibility" TAMMY FAYE would be heading to Broadway “very soon”. His demeanour suggested he knew more than he was able to share which was an encouraging sign.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 1, 2023 7:13:19 GMT
FINGERS CROSSED!
Tony Award for Katie Brayben please
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Post by alece10 on Nov 1, 2023 7:47:40 GMT
"Heading to Broadway?" Thats no good.
We need it to do a proper London run before we let them have it.
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Post by Rory on Nov 1, 2023 7:58:02 GMT
Heard it’s going to Broadway first. Then we can just pray it comes over here It probably won't end up coming back here. It's the kiss of death for the West End when these things go to the US after the taxpayer subsidised UK run (American Psycho, Groundhog Day). |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 1, 2023 9:19:50 GMT
Sadly it was only ever really a pre-Broadway run at the Almeida
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Post by BVM on Nov 1, 2023 10:08:02 GMT
I completely fail to understand, why when something has been a proven success here, they would want to go to (the comparatively harsher and less forgiving environment of) Broadway.
It was a mistake for Groundhog Day and it’s a mistake for this IMHO.
It’s a majority UK team and there’s an audience for it here.
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Post by capybara on Nov 1, 2023 11:40:48 GMT
That would be a real shame and an unnecessary risk. I was looking forward to seeing it again.
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Post by shownut on Nov 1, 2023 12:07:18 GMT
I think the feeling is that TAMMY FAYE would have major appeal for Broadway audiences as Tammy Faye Bakker was a household name in America for much of the 1980s - 1990s but not really known on this side of the pond. In addition, her story lends itself to musical treatment and having Elton John behind it certainly doesn't hurt.
On the plus side, they have been redeveloping the show since the Almeida version so to see it made bigger, better and (hopefully) Broadway ready will be interesting.
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Post by jacob on Nov 1, 2023 13:45:46 GMT
I’ll be gutted if this doesn’t come back, why not perfect it here then chuck it over the pond?? Even for a short run. I really enjoyed this. And Andrew is hawt. And talented too haha
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 1, 2023 14:10:21 GMT
It’s a majority UK team and there’s an audience for it here. Whilst I don't necessarily disagree with you BVM, something in me says that Americans would relate to religious evangelism and TV evangelism, more that we would over here in the UK. And it's my understanding that the height of Tammy Faye Baker's fame was in the late 80's, which is not that long ago for people to forget. There was also that recent Jessica Chastain film about Tammy Faye Baker that she won the Academy Award for. So, whilst she may not have been coming into people home via television like she used to - I do realise that she has passed on- although everyone from that time has moved on, the memory is still there. |
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Post by BVM on Nov 1, 2023 14:18:13 GMT
It’s a majority UK team and there’s an audience for it here. Whilst I don't necessarily disagree with you BVM, something in me says that Americans would relate to religious evangelism and TV evangelism, more that we would over here in the UK. And it's my understanding that the height of Tammy Faye Baker's fame was in the late 80's, which is not that long ago for people to forget. There was also that recent Jessica Chastain film about Tammy Faye Baker that she won the Academy Award for. So, whilst she may not have been coming into people home via television like she used to - I do realise that she has passed on- although everyone from that time has moved on, the memory is still there. You are of course right - certainly I get that it IS an American story (all be it one the UK audiences very much took to). It just seems a shame not to build on it's success here before risking the transfer. And Broadway is pretty unpredictable. I thought New York New York would have been an easy win there but it closed in a similar amount of months to Bad Cinderella. |
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 1, 2023 14:53:31 GMT
You know it’s interesting that you say that.
I’m couldn’t say with absolute certainty if we took to TV evangelism in Australia. It may be a case that we did, but I was too young to truly understand it.
I do have vague memories of it. It was on Sunday mornings or very late in the evenings. Not to sure if it was live and that was because of the time zones.
I mentioned it to a friend when I saw the show and she said she remembered it vividly.
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Post by shownut on Nov 6, 2023 15:02:15 GMT
More news, which actually pre-dates Andrew Rannells statement last week that a Broadway production of TAMMY FAYE may come soon. In an interview from September, Jake Shears mentions at least one new song going in (let's hope there are a couple more) and that there was a workshop in October. One must assume, given A Rannell's suggestion it might come 'sooner than we think', that the workshop was a success. Virgin Radio speaks with Jake Shears |
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