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Post by jennapatchell on Jun 23, 2021 0:14:25 GMT
I Can't Sing is the best new British musical in the last second. Criminally underrated, great songs and gags, and amazing cast.
POTO is awful and should have closed decades ago.
Sunny Afternoon was terrible, no idea why it won the Olivier.
The Woman in Black is not scary, at all.
Mischief Theatre should stop doing anything digital, their shtick doesn't translate to video.
Mary Poppins is boring other than 3 songs.
Chicago is poorly directed.
Sarah Kane plays are only put on because she died.
Fun Home is just not that good.
Dreamgirls really dragged and had poor lighting+set that made me want to fall asleep.
The National Theatres programming gets weaker each season.
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Post by Samwise on Jun 23, 2021 2:14:14 GMT
Musicals written for the stage seldom adapt well for cinema. Hollywood ruins almost every musical it gets its hands on.
Idina Menzel is only good in the recording studio and generally disappoints live.
Ivo van Hove is a gimmicky commercialist director who thinks he's an avant-garde auteur.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 23, 2021 11:01:58 GMT
Mischief Theatre should stop doing anything digital, their shtick doesn't translate to video. Have you watched any of the Mischief Movie Night In shows? I think they work, as it's livestreaming the improv show as it is on stage except for occasional greenscreen additions. For me that works better than the TV shows. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 23, 2021 12:19:23 GMT
Musicals written for the stage seldom adapt well for cinema. Hollywood ruins almost every musical it gets its hands on. Idina Menzel is only good in the recording studio and generally disappoints live.Ivo van Hove is a gimmicky commercialist director who thinks he's an avant-garde auteur. She’s got a potty mouth too! |
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Post by westendboy on Jun 23, 2021 13:45:34 GMT
I Can't Sing is the best new British musical in the last second. Criminally underrated, great songs and gags, and amazing cast. Definitely underrated! It has it's flaws, but it was one of the most fun nights I ever had at the theatre! The Woman in Black is not scary, at all. Have to disagree with you there. I've seen the show 4 times and every time it got better! The atmosphere, the subtlety, the feeling of dread, it all just works so well! It's a perfect example of "less is more". |
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Post by daisy24601 on Jun 24, 2021 9:39:48 GMT
Mischief Theatre should stop doing anything digital, their shtick doesn't translate to video. Agree with this. I love their shows live but can't get through them on a screen and I'm not sure why. |
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Post by marob on Jun 24, 2021 12:35:53 GMT
Mischief Theatre should stop doing anything digital, their shtick doesn't translate to video. Agree with this. I love their shows live but can't get through them on a screen and I'm not sure why. I’d agree with the BBC stuff, rarely more than very mildly amusing, but I thought Mischief Movie Night In was great (depending on the scenario they’re given to work with obviously.) Haven’t seen Come From Away. I know people say how amazing it is, but the clips I’ve seen/heard just sounds like someone spoofing Irish/Riverdance-type music. I can’t take to it. |
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Post by danb on Jun 24, 2021 13:12:46 GMT
To be fair CFA isn’t about the music. It’s the feeling, the story & the stagecraft of it all. The music is nice but by no means the be all and end all.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jun 25, 2021 8:20:42 GMT
To be fair CFA isn’t about the music. It’s the feeling, the story & the stagecraft of it all. The music is nice but by no means the be all and end all. Agreed. CFA is not about its soundtrack but staging, story, characters, social history and triumph over adversity. Amazing show. |
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Post by maskoftragedy on Jun 25, 2021 15:22:53 GMT
I can't stand Patti lu Pone as a singer. She totally ruins the Les Mis original London cast recording for me, and is the worst Fantine I've had the misfortune to hear. I cringe listening to her and try to avoid having to do so. Can't understand the acclaim she gets but I'm used to having unpopular opinions.
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Post by WireHangers on Jun 27, 2021 23:27:28 GMT
I don’t think Carrie Hope Fletcher comes across as likeable whatsoever. She seems like the kind of person who would be elitist and really mean behind the fake sugary sweet public persona.
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Post by maskoftragedy on Jun 30, 2021 15:02:20 GMT
I don’t think Carrie Hope Fletcher comes across as likeable whatsoever. She seems like the kind of person who would be elitist and really mean behind the fake sugary sweet public persona.
What got me really disliking her was after how she made many videos preaching about using makeup that were not tested on animals, she advertised a product on Instagram that is tested on animals and deleted any comments that challenged her on this.
That showed me who she really is, along with having felt for some time that she is painfully in denial over what a privileged life she had and continues to enjoy. Working class my arse.
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Post by danb on Jun 30, 2021 16:28:44 GMT
Perhaps you could search through ten years of tweets and see if you can find something to finish her off? In the interest of all this extreme kindness being displayed…
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 30, 2021 17:58:32 GMT
The ‘Truth Hurts’ thread title doesn’t extend to making personal attacks on performers. I’m not saying we’ve got to that point with CHF… yet but I can see where this is going. Keep it light please. Eye rolling comments about CHF’s online presence are probably more suited to the Performers and Creatives thread. Comments about her acting/singing ability are suited to the relevant show thread. But personal insults about any performer (such as “she is mean”) are not allowed as our rules clearly say. Thank you |
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Post by maskoftragedy on Jun 30, 2021 20:42:18 GMT
Perhaps you could search through ten years of tweets and see if you can find something to finish her off? In the interest of all this extreme kindness being displayed…
Not sure how to respond to this but why would I want to "finish her off"?
And if you don't like people having a grumble why are you coming into a thread like this? Also, having a grumble doesn't automatically mean people are being nasty or wanting to be.
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Post by maskoftragedy on Jun 30, 2021 20:44:07 GMT
The ‘Truth Hurts’ thread title doesn’t extend to making personal attacks on performers. I’m not saying we’ve got to that point with CHF… yet but I can see where this is going. Keep it light please. Eye rolling comments about CHF’s online presence are probably more suited to the Performers and Creatives thread. Comments about her acting/singing ability are suited to the relevant show thread. But personal insults about any performer (such as “she is mean”) are not allowed as our rules clearly say. Thank you
I really can't see what was so awful about what I wrote?
For the sake of avoiding argument I'll not bother with this thread anymore. Doesn't seem anything other than relentless positivity is allowed.
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Post by TallPaul on Jul 4, 2021 8:38:02 GMT
Kinky Boots the film, without songs*, is much, much better than Kinky Boots the stage musical, with songs. I couldn't remember a single one by the time I stepped back onto the Strand.
*The film does have songs, but you know what I mean.
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Post by originalconceptlive on Jul 5, 2021 10:07:43 GMT
Most of the score for 'Matilda' is a bit of a bore for an adult to listen to.
Apologies to my fellow ladies, but the Narrator's songs in 'Joseph' somehow sit more comfortably in a man's vocal range.
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Post by JJShaw on Jul 5, 2021 13:14:09 GMT
Apologies to my fellow ladies, but the Narrator's songs in 'Joseph' somehow sit more comfortably in a man's vocal range. Originally the narrator was male! Peter Reeves in the original west end cast, it wasn't until 1981 pre-broadway company that it was female. |
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Post by originalconceptlive on Jul 5, 2021 20:34:21 GMT
I know! I first listened to a version with a female Narrator, and then later came across an album with Peter Reeves. It was honestly so much more enjoyable for me, though I'm not usually one to say "Give that role back to the men!".
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Post by danb on Jul 6, 2021 10:15:30 GMT
I remember Keith Jack playing the narrator on one of the Kenwright Joseph tours after he didn’t win ADWD.
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Post by Scswp on Jul 6, 2021 19:44:32 GMT
I know! I first listened to a version with a female Narrator, and then later came across an album with Peter Reeves. It was honestly so much more enjoyable for me, though I'm not usually one to say "Give that role back to the men!". It definitely does sit more comfortably in a man’s range, but I think it’s actually much more exciting to hear it belted by a female. Plus the show needs an exciting and dynamic female lead vocal to counterbalance all of the male vocal sections. |
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Post by Joseph Buquet on Jul 6, 2021 20:09:28 GMT
Most of the score for 'Matilda' is a bit of a bore for an adult to listen to. Apologies to my fellow ladies, but the Narrator's songs in 'Joseph' somehow sit more comfortably in a man's vocal range. I wholeheartedly agree with you about the Matilda score. Other then ‘When I Grow Up’, I find it incredibly uninteresting. I don’t agree about Joseph, though. A female narrator brings some variety, and NO ONE beats Linzi Hateley! 😀 |
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Post by squidward on Jul 12, 2021 10:27:03 GMT
Jamaal Westman had the charisma of a net curtain in Hamilton, How he got the part and an Olivier Award is baffling.
Once Jon Robyns has exhausted every male role in Les Mis, perhaps he could try some of the female ones? Find a new show already.
Although it is the only notable song in ‘Matilda’, I could never work out a narrative reason for ‘When I Grow Up’ to exist in the show.
And on the subject of Tim Minchin, Groundhog Day took a brilliant movie and reduced it to a vulgar, charmless pile-up, again with only one decent song (Seeing You). Andy Karl had no warmth whatsoever which didn’t help. Presumably he was cast solely for the hubristic transfer to Broadway, but there were so many British performers who could have made the show infinitely better. The 20min long sequence sequence with the Karl on the revolve while another character contemplated suicide ( which may have also included the resuscitation of a tramp with frostbite) was one of the worst things I have ever seen in my 40yrs of theatre going.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 11:03:21 GMT
Jamaal Westman had the charisma of a net curtain in Hamilton, How he got the part and an Olivier Award is baffling. Once He didn't win an Olivier Award. Also I'm not sure how anyone should come in for criticism for daring to stay in a job - in no other industry would that even remotely be an acceptable thing to say! |
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