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Post by hannechalk on Jun 13, 2020 14:31:00 GMT
The liberty of it, I say. I'm fanning myself down now. In a way, many fans like it exactly that way. Although I'm all open to new interpretations. 😀 I like Blood Brothers but the Kenwright production and its cheap sets and costumes need to be retired and given to someone else to breathe new life into it. When it closed in the West End, I wasn't exactly sad to see it go. |
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Post by hannechalk on Jun 13, 2020 14:40:31 GMT
A farewell-tour is not a farewell-tour if you keep casting the same actor in each subsequent leg, or keep bringing them back in future productions of the same show.
I do not see the appeal or point at all of Six.
The 2017 National Theatre-production of Jane Eyre was odd and fairly boring.
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Post by xanady on Jun 14, 2020 15:16:45 GMT
BOM is an embarrassment!
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Post by danb on Jun 14, 2020 16:05:07 GMT
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Post by xanady on Jun 14, 2020 17:09:38 GMT
......errr.....nope.....lol
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 14, 2020 18:05:24 GMT
Book of Mormon is amazeballs x
Hamilton is double swinging amazeballs x
Come From Away is triple swinging amazeballs x
The Great Comet is so amazeballs it's like one of those pits full of coloured balls that kids play in x
Six has more amazeballs than anyone else, but it is not a musical. It is a fantastic cabaret act that didn't have a home anywhere else so they called it a musical and shoved it Off West End. The fact that this show is created by 2 BRITISH Uni students and has opened on Broadway a little over 2 years after it's inception is an unparalledled and extraordinary feat. The fact that so many people are willing to sh*t all over it instead of celebrating it's immense achievements angers me. If they were a football team of men you'd be giving them parades in the streets, but instead...crickets...and endless bitching and moaning about how sh*t it is instead of praising the doors it has and will open for modern British musicals x
The first half of Kinky Boots is amazeballs, the 2nd half is just balls x
Fun Home, Caroline or Change and Falsettos are unwatchable manipulative muck x
Sondheim is so overrated they actually invented the word just to describe his work x
Bette Midler was atrocious in Hello Dolly x
The recent JCS revival was like watching an ALW themed episode of American Idol. The singing was phenomenal but it was cold, heartless and had no soul x
Apart from Sunset ALW is incapable of writing a decent show on his own. His 2 best shows post 70's were his 2 biggest flops...The Beautiful Game and Whistle Down the Wind x
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Post by danb on Jun 14, 2020 20:06:34 GMT
......errr.....nope.....lol Do I sense a ‘Benidorm’ & ‘Mrs Browns Boys’ lover? There’s nothing wrong with obvious, lowest common denominator comedy if that’s what you like. BOM is far from perfect and morally difficult to defend, but works on many levels than just gross out ‘South Park’ comedy. But each to their own. 😂😂😂 (Thoroughly enjoyed ‘Six’ but I think cast changes are all that would make me return regularly.) |
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Post by tom on Jun 14, 2020 21:59:05 GMT
Book of Mormon is amazeballs x Hamilton is double swinging amazeballs x Come From Away is triple swinging amazeballs x The Great Comet is so amazeballs it's like one of those pits full of coloured balls that kids play in x Six has more amazeballs than anyone else, but it is not a musical. It is a fantastic cabaret act that didn't have a home anywhere else so they called it a musical and shoved it Off West End. The fact that this show is created by 2 BRITISH Uni students and has opened on Broadway a little over 2 years after it's inception is an unparalledled and extraordinary feat. The fact that so many people are willing to sh*t all over it instead of celebrating it's immense achievements angers me. If they were a football team of men you'd be giving them parades in the streets, but instead...crickets...and endless bitching and moaning about how sh*t it is instead of praising the doors it has and will open for modern British musicals x The first half of Kinky Boots is amazeballs, the 2nd half is just balls x Fun Home, Caroline or Change and Falsettos are unwatchable manipulative muck x Sondheim is so overrated they actually invented the word just to describe his work x Bette Midler was atrocious in Hello Dolly x The recent JCS revival was like watching an ALW themed episode of American Idol. The singing was phenomenal but it was cold, heartless and had no soul x Apart from Sunset ALW is incapable of writing a decent show on his own. His 2 best shows post 70's were his 2 biggest flops...The Beautiful Game and Whistle Down the Wind x Not seen six but listened to the awful soundtrack which is a pop wannabe version of hamilton which is overrated as it is. Six does not appeal to me and if it is the future of british musicals I certainly don’t want those doors opened. |
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Post by xanady on Jun 14, 2020 23:16:33 GMT
^danb,the thread is called ‘Let’s get real.Truth hurts!’....
my truth and my reality is that BOM is unacceptable in its dealings with race and in the current climate I personally can’t see how it can be staged again.Cue outrage from other board members!
BOM have tweeted their support for BLM and a politically-active associate of mine has challenged them to justify this statement in relation to the show itself.Will report back if he gets a response.
Obviously,danb,I totally respect that your truth and reality is different to mine regarding this show.
No worries👍
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Post by hannechalk on Jun 15, 2020 0:34:59 GMT
Out of the 122 events I have listed as seen in my lifetime so far, the 2018-production of Flashdance was the worst of all.
Those 122 events include a Bristol City v Oldham Athletic-match. Just for comparison.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jun 15, 2020 6:56:22 GMT
Book of Mormon is offensive and in the light of Black Lives Matter should be cancelled and taken off stage.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 15, 2020 8:52:04 GMT
Book of Mormon is offensive and in the light of Black Lives Matter should be cancelled and taken off stage. If it was so problematic why would so many of the black community have agreed to take part in the show? Think about the number of black actors who have worked on it over the years. Half the cast are black. I think it's difficult for the black lives matter movement to come out against a show many of their own community were more than happy to be a part of and advertise. The audience, in my experience, has also been very diverse the times I've been to see it. But if anyone wants to now discuss the individual topic of which shows are problematic because of BLM further can i ask that another thread is made or it's taken to the relevant thread in GD, rather than hijacking this thread with replies that are off topic.
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Post by dgjbear on Jun 17, 2020 7:28:12 GMT
Can we have a break of all Sondheim revivals for at least a decade
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 17, 2020 8:09:22 GMT
Can we have a break of all Sondheim revivals for at least a decade NO. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 17, 2020 9:29:55 GMT
Can we have a break of all Sondheim revivals for at least a decade Only the ones involving Imelda Staunton, Michael Ball and Maria Friedman. |
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Post by squidward on Jun 17, 2020 11:47:47 GMT
Can we have a break of all Sondheim revivals for at least a decade Only the ones involving Imelda Staunton, Michael Ball and Maria Friedman. I’d like to add Jenna Russell,Hannah Waddingham and any revival of SS’s back catalogue at The Menier Chocolate Factory please. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 17, 2020 11:56:27 GMT
Only the ones involving Imelda Staunton, Michael Ball and Maria Friedman. I’d like to add Jenna Russell,Hannah Waddingham and any revival of SS’s back catalogue at The Menier Chocolate Factory please. I loved Sunday, Assassins, Woods and Road Show but Night Music and Merrily went down like a cup of cold sick Please dont hate me but I really like Jenna Russell |
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Post by frosty on Jun 17, 2020 14:38:18 GMT
Please dont hate me but I really like Jenna Russell Me too! I first saw her in Merrily, then Grey Gardens, Fun Home, and Bridges of Madison County and each time I've been really impressed. I don't really get the dislike for her, but there you go, we can't all like the same thing.
For my two-penneth worth in this thread...I hate anything Shakespeare, and trying to make it all modern by setting in on a cruise ship in the 1980s, but getting the characters to speak in olde fashiondy English just turns me cold. I've tried and tried, but I cannot engage (or understand, or care about it) at all.
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 17, 2020 17:26:17 GMT
I think the biggest painful truth at the moment is the one acknowledged by CM today!
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 17, 2020 17:34:22 GMT
Bend It Like Beckham has a pretty nice score, and in the grim environment of new British musicals it was almost great.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 17, 2020 19:10:23 GMT
Can we have a break of all Sondheim revivals for at least a decade Forever would be even better... |
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Post by 141920grm on Jun 19, 2020 8:51:03 GMT
Thought someone would've mentioned it already, but I've never heard Alfie Boe *not* sing like he's got something in his mouth, which particularly shows when the tempo is fast and there are a lot of lyrics to get through (e.g. Valjean's Soliloquy).
Ironically, considering his disregard for the opera world, I find his vocals much more agreeable listening to his takes on slower-paced, grandiose operatic arias.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 2, 2020 9:33:09 GMT
I really like Waitress but some of the songs are not that easy on the ear, especially in the show itself because some of the most awkward songs are also some of the songs with the most energetic choreography. I'm talking about When he see's me and both of Ogi's songs. Melodically I really don't think they sit well and to make matters worse, the actors are all over the shop dancing about in all those songs and it honestly can be a bit painful, even if the actors can actually sing, which as we know with Waitress, isn't always a given. I do like Sara's music and there are some beautiful songs in Waitress but some of that score feels really awkward to my ears.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 10:14:44 GMT
To all musicals post 2005: It is ok to use more than 4 chords in a song.
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Post by kimu on Jul 25, 2020 14:54:20 GMT
Am I late to the party?
Petula Clark's With One Look was fab. It showed Norma's vulnerability, like there really was a human behind her facade.
Hamilton. Godawful. It felt like the concert version of itself.
Funny Girl. The story is boring, and I doubt any actress could make Fanny Brice come across as interesting.
Cats the movie. Sort of loved it, to be honest. It's just a fun two hours with music and dance.
Victor/Victoria. I want to see a male play the lead. A man playing a woman playing a man playing a woman! It would have more layers than puff pastry. Oh, this is more of an idea than anything else. Someone, please take it and make something out of it!
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