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Post by d'James on May 7, 2017 9:44:27 GMT
Alexandra Burke?
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Post by partytentdown on May 7, 2017 11:23:15 GMT
How do they do 'I'm black Jesus, I'm black Mary, but this Mary's legs are hairy'?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 11:28:36 GMT
I don't really think we should be editing lyrics that state a character is black in order for a white actor to play the role. If it's in the text, the character is black and if anything black actors need more roles, not less.
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Post by HereForTheatre on May 7, 2017 11:35:30 GMT
Yes to me you can't and shouldn't have a non black Lola.
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Post by partytentdown on May 7, 2017 12:09:36 GMT
I don't really think we should be editing lyrics that state a character is black in order for a white actor to play the role. If it's in the text, the character is black and if anything black actors need more roles, not less. I wasn't suggesting that happens, I agree the role should be cast black if intended, but someone above says that it's already happened in Australia so I'm curious if they have changed the lyrics or not |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 12:16:55 GMT
I don't really think we should be editing lyrics that state a character is black in order for a white actor to play the role. If it's in the text, the character is black and if anything black actors need more roles, not less. I wasn't suggesting that happens, I agree the role should be cast black if intended, but someone above says that it's already happened in Australia so I'm curious if they have changed the lyrics or not Don't worry, I wasn't implying that you were. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 12:47:12 GMT
I don't really think we should be editing lyrics that state a character is black in order for a white actor to play the role. If it's in the text, the character is black and if anything black actors need more roles, not less. Preach!! I agree black actors need more roles and not just roles relating to black stories i.e. Dreamgirls, Memphis etc etc. That's why I think Lola should stay black and we should colour-bind cast WAY more. Lauren isn't exactly colour-blind casting as she could be any race but I think there are some verg talented black comedic musical theatre performers currently who would make an amazing Lauren! |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 12:47:59 GMT
I don't really think we should be editing lyrics that state a character is black in order for a white actor to play the role. If it's in the text, the character is black and if anything black actors need more roles, not less. I wasn't suggesting that happens, I agree the role should be cast black if intended, but someone above says that it's already happened in Australia so I'm curious if they have changed the lyrics or not Callum Francis is Lola in Australia however there is only one black Angel not the usual two so that's probably what they meant |
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Post by stevej678 on May 7, 2017 13:33:10 GMT
That's why I think Lola should stay black and we should colour-bind cast WAY more. Seems a bit of a contradictory stance to advocate colourblind casting on the one hand but then say Lola should always be black. |
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Post by Ade on May 7, 2017 13:49:58 GMT
That's why I think Lola should stay black and we should colour-bind cast WAY more. Seems a bit of a contradictory stance to advocate colourblind casting on the one hand but then say Lola should always be black. My thoughts exactly. |
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Post by cheesy116 on May 7, 2017 17:21:04 GMT
I wasn't suggesting that happens, I agree the role should be cast black if intended, but someone above says that it's already happened in Australia so I'm curious if they have changed the lyrics or not Callum Francis is Lola in Australia however there is only one black Angel not the usual two so that's probably what they meant There's the usual 3 covers for Lola in Australia  1 of the angels, another is a black male swing and 1 of the white angels also covers Lola. He has gone a few times his name is Euan Doidge, I have no idea how to insert a picture lol but theres lots of photos of him on Google incase you want to see. I listened to an audio recording of him on YouTube and no lyrics seem to be changed so they must not care too much, the very few times they actually mention his skin colour are easily missed for first time viewers. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 17:42:13 GMT
As said on Magic of The Musicals, London celebrates its 700th performance this week! |
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Post by drowseychap on May 7, 2017 22:10:03 GMT
Hi guys can anyone give some advice looking to book tickets in advance for July can't afford top price sadly but anyone know the best. Site to book on ? Really useful ? Amazon ? Or different one ? Today tix only booking till June
Any help be appreciated and anyone sat in upper circle is it really bad or ok ?
Thanks in advance guys and gals
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Post by daniel on May 7, 2017 22:13:57 GMT
Hi guys can anyone give some advice looking to book tickets in advance for July can't afford top price sadly but anyone know the best. Site to book on ? Really useful ? Amazon ? Or different one ? Today tix only booking till June Any help be appreciated and anyone sat in upper circle is it really bad or ok ? Thanks in advance guys and gals Book on the official site, Really Useful/See Tickets. Use Theatre Monkey for seat ratings and Seat Plan for the view from your seat. Good luck |
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Post by Ade on May 8, 2017 5:02:48 GMT
Hi guys can anyone give some advice looking to book tickets in advance for July can't afford top price sadly but anyone know the best. Site to book on ? Really useful ? Amazon ? Or different one ? Today tix only booking till June Any help be appreciated and anyone sat in upper circle is it really bad or ok ? Thanks in advance guys and gals Upper circle is absolutely fine in here. Pretty clear views from the majority of the seats aside from the extreme ends. Although I don't know what it's like in the back half behind the rail. |
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Post by drowseychap on May 8, 2017 9:18:07 GMT
Thanks been looking people recommend row k but anyone know if the bar is in the way too much row E to K any better than others my bug bear is people in front leaning forward
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Post by aine on May 8, 2017 9:23:55 GMT
As said on Magic of The Musicals, London celebrates its 700th performance this week! Any idea what day? Was thinking of maybe getting tickets for some point this week 🙈 |
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Post by westendwendy on May 8, 2017 9:34:55 GMT
Ramin Karimloo saw Kinky Boots on Broadway and said Lola was now 'on the list'. In theory theres no reason why Lola couldnt be white and you can easily equal up the diversity by casting a black Charlie. I love this. Colour blind casting and gender swapping should work both ways, any way, upside down or inside out - that's the beauty of theatre and imagination! A male only cast, a female only cast, black actors playing white roles and heavens forbid a Jonathan Pryce when he played the Asian role of the Engineer in Miss Siagon. Would there be a Phillipino girl in the French Revolution? Of course not. It's acting, grown ups playing and it's an amazing art form we all love so much! The miscast concert series in New York was amazing and Cythia's "Papa Can You Hear Me" one of the best renditions of any song ever! I'm all for a white Lola especially if they swap with either a black Charlie/Lauren. Then you don't lose out. Hey, I'm up for the whole show being set in China and everyone is Asian! |
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Post by daniel on May 8, 2017 15:58:32 GMT
Thanks for the correction @theatremonkey, I had (incorrectly, evidently!) assumed that Kinky Boots went through to See, as with the rest of the RUT productions.
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Post by drowseychap on May 8, 2017 23:17:24 GMT
Thanks got my tickets off official site ? Adelphi via rug ?
Upper c k thought were best I could afford this time hope the bat in front not too high ... but at least get to see Matt in his last show
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Post by daniel on May 9, 2017 0:25:46 GMT
Thanks got my tickets off official site ? Adelphi via rug ? Upper c k thought were best I could afford this time hope the bat in front not too high ... but at least get to see Matt in his last show and I are also in the Upper for Matt's final show - let's have a little meet up! |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 7:16:15 GMT
That's why I think Lola should stay black and we should colour-bind cast WAY more. Seems a bit of a contradictory stance to advocate colourblind casting on the one hand but then say Lola should always be black. I meant we should colour-blind cast in roles usually played by white actors. It's true what Wendy said, would there be a black or Filipino in the French Revolution? No. But the audiences do not care if they are a good actress and I highly doubt anyone would complain about an unrealistic diverse cast and if they did they would be hugely frowned upon. Colour-blind casting allows more black actors to appear in other shows apart from shows like Dreamgirls, Motown etc |
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Post by stevej678 on May 9, 2017 7:25:13 GMT
Seems a bit of a contradictory stance to advocate colourblind casting on the one hand but then say Lola should always be black. I meant we should colour-blind cast in roles usually played by white actors. It's true what Wendy said, would there be a black or Filipino in the French Revolution? No. But the audiences do not care if they are a good actress and I highly doubt anyone would complain about an unrealistic diverse cast and if they did they would be hugely frowned upon. Colour-blind casting allows more black actors to appear in other shows apart from shows like Dreamgirls, Motown etc Surely colourblind casting has to work both ways or it's reverse discrimination? You seem hung up on the idea that every cast should feature black men or women for the sake of it. Call me old fashioned but I would rather casting directors chose the best people for the job regardless of the colour of their skin. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 9:27:34 GMT
Eh, I do think it's understandable that colourblind casting only works one way. There's context to all of this.
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Post by theinvisiblegirl on May 9, 2017 14:33:23 GMT
I know the Lauren casting isn't the big news, but I LOVE Verity Rushworth. (this is where once again I have to confess my dark secret of watching Emmerdale isn't it?). Also glad she's getting another crack at a bigger stage role as she had to pull out of Breakfast at Tiffanys whne she got pregnant. Also I remember her tweeting Killian waaaay back early in the run saying how much she loved the show, so obviously she decided she really really liked it! Verity's husband is the Associate Director at Kinky Boots. |
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