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Post by welsh_tenor on May 31, 2017 13:28:43 GMT
How huge is huge? I saw it in December and can't recall the cast being unusually big. I think it could have more appeal than DEH. The one with most appeal is Groundhog Day, and that has its publicity work made for it in London already. 37 according to the website. Remember there are people up in the mezzanine at many times too. vs 18 for Come from Away (includes 6 standbys), 13 for Evan Hansen (includes 5 standbys) and 24 for Groundhog Day. 5 or 6 Standbys? ? Wicked are missing a trick not having a Standby for the Midwife! *sorry I couldn't resist!
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Post by danb on May 31, 2017 13:40:19 GMT
37 according to the website. Remember there are people up in the mezzanine at many times too. vs 18 for Come from Away (includes 6 standbys), 13 for Evan Hansen (includes 5 standbys) and 24 for Groundhog Day. 37? Goodness, why do they need so many? I mean, it's hardly 'War & Peace'. I thank you. Oh you are good 😀
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Post by viserys on May 31, 2017 14:31:22 GMT
Well, tbh I don't care into which theatre Comet goes as long as it comes over School of Rock seems to be doing okay, but I doubt it will have a VERY long run, so if it's the ugly New London Theatre for Comet, so be it. I think it would have quite some appeal - it has curiosity value because it's so crazy and over the top and is different from everything else (which is probably its USP on Broadway too). War and Peace is somewhat known, not least thanks to the recent BBC adaptation. It may also bring some curious Russian tourists in. I'm quite sure it has more appeal than Evan Hansen, which couldn't be more American if you painted Ben Platt in the stars and stripes.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 14:45:37 GMT
Great Comet - now we're talking.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 14:47:56 GMT
I think DEH has way more appeal than great Comet. DEH will pull in all the teens and younger people who will claim it's the best thing ever and cry every time they see it.
Great Comet, unless it gets someone with name recognition like Josh Groban, will barely survive. Curiosity doesn't get people in paying lots of money
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Post by Mark on May 31, 2017 15:07:34 GMT
Well, everything about Come From Away was simple and pedestrian, so I don't think it sets the benchmark. Yes, Comet might be expensive to mount. The theatre will have to be repurposed, probably requires special licensing for safety codes, and the costumes also look like they're worth a high price tag. But it's a fabulous show and a great night out. See I couldn't warm to Great Comet at all and found it rather underwealming and self indulgent. Come From Away however I thought was much stronger, the time flew by! I think there is a place in London for all the current Tony nominees for best musical, but Comet and CFA would definitely be the hardest sells. CFA is a very basic set and could potentially do a limited run. Great comet would need to go for a long run.
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Post by ali973 on May 31, 2017 15:54:40 GMT
I think DEH has way more appeal than great Comet. DEH will pull in all the teens and younger people who will claim it's the best thing ever and cry every time they see it. Only problem is that London theatre, from what I see, and I tend to see a lot, hardly has any teens or young people in attendance. I would say the majority of people tend to be in their late 20s and above.
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Post by 49thand8th on May 31, 2017 16:12:03 GMT
Maybe that's not a problem — maybe it's an audience ripe to be tapped into.
Also, it DEH could scoop up all the kids who couldn't afford a ticket to Hamilton.
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Post by Sari on May 31, 2017 16:26:22 GMT
I still don't understand why there has never been a London production of Next To Normal... we're getting a production in September here in Spain, and trust me, Spain is the country of Jukebox Musicals (It's a shame that we're getting The Bodyguard before Wicked tbh)
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Post by welsh_tenor on May 31, 2017 16:39:36 GMT
Ok so always one to follow the popular vote I've just listened to the soundtrack and I've just put it on again... this is totally up my catchy street!
When it transfers (assuming it will!) would Ben Platt not transfer with it ala Idina/Wicked?!
**Corrected my BoM error!
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Post by stuartmcd on May 31, 2017 16:42:44 GMT
Ok so always one to follow the popular vote I've just listened to the soundtrack and I've just put it on again... this is totally up my catchy street! When it transfers (assuming it will!) would Ben Platt not transfer with it ala Idina/Wicked and Andrew Rannels/BoM?! Andrew Rannels didn't transfer to London did he? I can't see Ben Platt transferring over of the show does come to London.. Evan Hansen has really raised his profile and there will be many job offers coming his way when he finishes on Broadway
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Post by 49thand8th on May 31, 2017 16:46:44 GMT
He did not. Gavin Creel originated Elder Price in London.
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Post by welsh_tenor on May 31, 2017 16:50:36 GMT
Ok so always one to follow the popular vote I've just listened to the soundtrack and I've just put it on again... this is totally up my catchy street! When it transfers (assuming it will!) would Ben Platt not transfer with it ala Idina/Wicked and Andrew Rannels/BoM?! Andrew Rannels didn't transfer to London did he? I can't see Ben Platt transferring over of the show does come to London.. Evan Hansen has really raised his profile and there will be many job offers coming his way when he finishes on Broadway Thanks to you & 49thand8th, was getting my Elder Prices confused... I've corrected my original quote as it's not quite as relevant now!
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Post by danb on May 31, 2017 16:59:56 GMT
Ok so always one to follow the popular vote I've just listened to the soundtrack and I've just put it on again... this is totally up my catchy street! When it transfers (assuming it will!) would Ben Platt not transfer with it ala Idina/Wicked and Andrew Rannels/BoM?! Andrew Rannels didn't transfer to London did he? I can't see Ben Platt transferring over of the show does come to London.. Evan Hansen has really raised his profile and there will be many job offers coming his way when he finishes on Broadway I'm not sure Ben Platts voice will last that long. He was singing 'For Forever' on The Daily Show' and sounded hoarse and strained throughout. I'd much rather hear the likes of Liam Doyle have a crack at it (I'm convinced) than some patchy yank who happened to originate it.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 17:00:45 GMT
Ben Platt wont transfer and the show wont work without him.
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Post by 49thand8th on May 31, 2017 17:09:52 GMT
I think it can; they just need to not build the show around whoever is the new Evan. I can see why they took that risk with their original Evan, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way going forward.
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Post by Sari on May 31, 2017 17:12:32 GMT
Tbh, I loved DEH and it wasn't just because of Ben Platt lol I would love to see it even if Evan is played by someone I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 17:13:13 GMT
I'm saying this as someone who hates the show outside of his performance so we'll agree to disagree haha. I think a weaker actor will make the character come across as completely unlikeable and unsympathetic.
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Post by 49thand8th on May 31, 2017 18:12:35 GMT
What makes you think a non-Platt would necessarily be weaker?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 20:07:51 GMT
What makes you think a non-Platt would necessarily be weaker? I think it's just one of those rare cases where the actor fits the role perfectly and wont be matched. When I was waiting in the box office the other day, I saw 3 different groups of people ask when the next standard priced tickets were available and leave when they found out it would be after Platt had left the show.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 20:09:12 GMT
I think you're wrong. Another young actor could work wonders in this role. What makes you think a non-Platt would necessarily be weaker? I think it's just one of those rare cases where the actor fits the role perfectly and wont be matched.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 20:22:44 GMT
Well opinions are a marvellous thing! I think Platt makes the role what it is, on paper the character is highly unlikeable.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 31, 2017 20:53:39 GMT
Errr, excuse me. I have been the first on many occasions to break news on shows here- have you? No, didn't think so. Re sources- a large number of my closest friends work on these west end shows and so do I. I have a lot more information than you and of course I'm not going to name sources. I'm more than happy to reveal some things here as it's always exciting to hear what's coming up. Some things I won't/can't talk about. Don't believe me but I'll let you apologise when Comet gets announced any day now. Likewise Tina at the Aldwych. Likewise Strictly Ballroom at the Phoenix. You're welcome. Hold on, wait, what? Has Great Comet really booked its WE theatre? I woudln't take his comments too seriously. No source, its just rumours. Plus the only theatre it could really go into with its design is somewhere like the New London as it change design of the auditorium for different productions all the time.
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Post by zak97 on May 31, 2017 20:55:40 GMT
I'd take Strictly Ballroom for the Phoenix - I don't want The Girls to close - but that is a replacement I'd be happy with. Tina at the Aldwych, less happy, but could be worse.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:02:21 GMT
Errr, excuse me. I have been the first on many occasions to break news on shows here- have you? No, didn't think so. Re sources- a large number of my closest friends work on these west end shows and so do I. I have a lot more information than you. Don't believe me but I'll let you apologise when Comet gets announced any day now. Likewise Tina at the Aldwych. Likewise Strictly Ballroom at the Phoenix. You're welcome. I woudln't take his comments too seriously. No source, its just rumours. Plus the only theatre it could really go into with its design is somewhere like the New London as it change design of the auditorium for different productions all the time. I didn't say you were wrong and I didn't say you haven't broken news on here. You don't have to be defensive and snarky when I have said nothing like that. All I said is there is no source.
And you don't know if/how much information I have on any upcoming shows so its not really right to say that.
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