Dear Evan Hansen - Noel Coward

[robertb213]

Even Sam couldn't convince me to start watching Hollyoaks!!

[Dr Tom]

He was great in the Intermissions concert on Monday - and you could see how excited Alice Fearn was in getting to sing You Will Be Found with the Olivier Award Winning Sam Tutty (who we also discovered spends a lot of time shining his trophy and keeps it on his windowsill so it's the first thing he sees each day, despite it blocking out the sun, a very modest young man).

[stuartmcd]

[alece10]

Everyone at work knows how much I love musicals and have started asking me if I am back watching them again. Most of them are not MT people and probably only go once a year when their wife drags them to the westend to see something. And yet it's surprising how many of them have heard of Dear Evan Hansen and know the song "You will be found".
Strange but nice.

[stuartmcd]

Also the track listing shows that Anybody Have A Map, Good For You, To Break In A Glove and Disappear have all been cut from the movie.

[greeny11]

To Break In A Glove won't be missed, but the others are more surprising.

[undeuxtrois]

Aug 26, 2021 13:45:10 GMT stuartmcd said:

Also the track listing shows that Anybody Have A Map, Good For You, To Break In A Glove and Disappear have all been cut from the movie.

Shame about them cutting Good For You.

[robertb213]

I was disappointed when I first read they were cutting songs for the film, but I can live with those 4 being removed. I would've thought Disappear would stay, but I guess it doesn't say anything that several of the other songs don't.

'Waving...' sounds pretty much the same, I'm feeling like they might've overdone the drumming sounds in the new orchestration but Ben sounds great.

'YWBF' feels even more anthemic in the last 90 seconds than the stage version, and Ben's lines somehow feel more heartfelt and tender. I cried AGAIN. This film may ruin me.

[robertb213]

Aug 26, 2021 14:37:53 GMT undeuxtrois said:

Aug 26, 2021 13:45:10 GMT stuartmcd said:

Also the track listing shows that Anybody Have A Map, Good For You, To Break In A Glove and Disappear have all been cut from the movie.

Shame about them cutting Good For You.

Does seem a strange cut..... I suspect it's because Julianne Moore can't sing it. Makes me worry for 'So Big/So Small' but that is an easier sing, she'll probably speak-sing most of it.

[Jon]

I don't think anyone will shed a tear for To Break in a Glove but shame that Anyone Got a Map has been cut.

[Being Alive]

They've absolutely cut Good For You because Julianne can't sing it (which puts the fear of God in me for So Big/So Small as it's the emotional height of the whole show).

[Stephen]

Aug 26, 2021 18:14:48 GMT Jon said:

I don't think anyone will shed a tear for To Break in a Glove but shame that Anyone Got a Map has been cut.

It's actually one of my favourite songs from the show. Think it's really nice. The lyrics annoy me a bit in the moral part "Cos there's a right thing in everything you do..." etc but I do like the song.

[imstillhere]

It's a shame Good For You has been cut as it's one of the only times Evan is actually held accountable for his terrible actions.

[robertb213]

Aug 28, 2021 14:48:58 GMT imstillhere said:

It's a shame Good For You has been cut as it's one of the only times Evan is actually held accountable for his terrible actions.

They are fleshing out the ending for the film so that Evan is shown to make up for what he did.

As for the stage version, 'Words Fail' explains why did he did it and how remorseful he feels.

[Rozzi Rainbow]

Aug 26, 2021 12:20:02 GMT stuartmcd said:

Wow. I think I'm going to end up sitting crying throughout most of this film. (I haven't seen the stage show yet.)

[christya]

Aug 26, 2021 20:26:54 GMT Being Alive said:

They've absolutely cut Good For You because Julianne can't sing it (which puts the fear of God in me for So Big/So Small as it's the emotional height of the whole show).

I have a suspicion that it might be one of those spoken-sung things. I hope I'm wrong, it's not a difficult song.

[robertb213]

So the reviews of the film haven't all been kind, but having spent 2 hours crying on and off into my red wine, I think it's safe to say I loved it. I have a lot of love for the show and score anyway, so perhaps I'm biased, but for me, it's fantastic.

Getting Ben's age out of the way first...it really doesn't matter. 5 minutes in, you don't notice and you won't care. Plus Jared is the same age as him, Zoe is only 3 years younger, and neither Amy Adams nor Julianne Moore look anywhere near their ages either (47 and 60), so I think it all works.

Ben is Evan, down to his core. The mannerisms, the way he holds himself, the way he delivers the lines...for me it's one of those actor/role combinations that is just a perfect fit. I think a lot of his songs were sung live which gives them a lot of emotion.

Alana's role has been fleshed out more, and she also has a new song written for the film, which blends well with the existing score. Jared has also been rewritten as a gay man, which works really well with his sassy comments in 'Sincerely Me', although he's not in it much after that.

Amy Adams and Julianne Moore are both brilliant as the two mothers wounded in different ways. I was worried Julianne wouldn't be able to sing 'So Big, So Small', but she delivers.

The ending is also changed from the stage version, and those people who felt Evan got away with his actions too easily will hopefully find this one more satisfactory, with a really gorgeous surprise.

If you hated the show, you won't like the film. You may find it saccharine, cloying, overly emotional, even manipulative. But if you've ever felt like an outsider, disconnected, unimportant, invisible, unheard, lonely or depressed, then I think it speaks volumes.

[theatreian]

Can't wait to see the film, didn't think it was out until October though!

[robertb213]

Sept 19, 2021 21:26:05 GMT theatreian said:

Can't wait to see the film, didn't think it was out until October though!

Cinemas this week, Internet slightly earlier 😜 ☠

[stuartmcd]

Unfortunately I felt kinda the opposite. Whilst I don’t think it’s as terrible as some of the reviews are making it out to be I didn’t really enjoy the movie. Overall I actually found it quite boring and at times uncomfortable to watch.

I think getting rid of Good For You and Disappear was a mistake. Pretty much after Sincerely Me it’s just slow song and slow song (including the new one for Alanah) and this just made the movie feel quite long and like I said boring. Apparently during a Q&A they revealed that they removed those songs as they were too theatrical but I think that’s exactly what this movie is missing. It’s taking itself so seriously. I think a good movie musical is one that truly embraces the fact it’s a musical and uses that to its advantage. Instead you sorta feel awkward when Ben Platt suddenly starts singing at the dinner table.

The relationship between Evan and Zoe actually felt kinda creepy to me and Evan came across kinda predatory. I think they would have been better off downplaying the relationship and cutting out Only Us in favour of keeping Good For You. I also don’t think that Zoe would have fallen for the version of Evan in this movie. He’s incredibly unlikeable.

And ultimately this movie just felt incredibly emotionally manipulative. Which kinda worked as I still cried at You Will Be Found. It really ramps up the anxiety and mental health plot lines and removes a large amount of the humour. You’d think a movie musical would be entertaining but I actually just found it quite heavy, depressing and uncomfortable to watch. I can’t see myself ever wanting to watch it again and yet I’d happily go back and see the stage production.

[theatrelegofan87]

Already watching it on my TV. 1080p blu ray quality 😬😝😃

[robertb213]

Sept 19, 2021 21:55:31 GMT stuartmcd said:

Unfortunately I felt kinda the opposite. Whilst I don’t think it’s as terrible as some of the reviews are making it out to be I didn’t really enjoy the movie. Overall I actually found it quite boring and at times uncomfortable to watch.

I think getting rid of Good For You and Disappear was a mistake. Pretty much after Sincerely Me it’s just slow song and slow song (including the new one for Alanah) and this just made the movie feel quite long and like I said boring. Apparently during a Q&A they revealed that they removed those songs as they were too theatrical but I think that’s exactly what this movie is missing. It’s taking itself so seriously. I think a good movie musical is one that truly embraces the fact it’s a musical and uses that to its advantage. Instead you sorta feel awkward when Ben Platt suddenly starts singing at the dinner table.

The relationship between Evan and Zoe actually felt kinda creepy to me and Evan came across kinda predatory. I think they would have been better off downplaying the relationship and cutting out Only Us in favour of keeping Good For You. I also don’t think that Zoe would have fallen for the version of Evan in this movie. He’s incredibly unlikeable.

And ultimately this movie just felt incredibly emotionally manipulative. Which kinda worked as I still cried at You Will Be Found. It really ramps up the anxiety and mental health plot lines and removes a large amount of the humour. You’d think a movie musical would be entertaining but I actually just found it quite heavy, depressing and uncomfortable to watch. I can’t see myself ever wanting to watch it again and yet I’d happily go back and see the stage production.

Some very good points! I'm wondering if I was just in a place tonight where I needed to shed a few tears and didn't realise it! Blame the wine 😂 It could do with a lighter tone during the latter half to break it up, I didn't register that but you're right. I've never liked 'Good For You' so didn't really miss that.

I think it's a film you probably need to be in the right mood for, which may limit its success and the audience reaction. It did hit the mark for me though.

[Mark]

Sept 19, 2021 21:32:05 GMT robertb213 said:

Sept 19, 2021 21:26:05 GMT theatreian said:

Can't wait to see the film, didn't think it was out until October though!

Cinemas this week, Internet slightly earlier 😜 ☠

Not out in U.K. cinemas until October 22nd

[42ndBlvd]

[theatreian]

I see the cast for West End reopening has been announced with Sam Tutty leading the cast again.

www.whatsonstage.com/london-theatre/news/dear-evan-hansen-west-end-return_54945.html