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Post by richey on Oct 11, 2022 7:18:01 GMT
Re: Paige, she was/is infamous for protecting her “spot”. She was notorious for this in other jobs too. I’m not sure how much is ego and how much is insecurity, but *she* was the leading lady and wanted to protect that without fear of being replaced. Similar stories from her days in Chess and others. Aka she’s just not a very nice person. Think it's been deleted now but there was a wonderful tweet the day after she visited the Regent Park production. She posted a picture of herself with the cast and someone replied underneath that they had been sat behind her and she had ruined their night with her behaviour |
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Post by distantcousin on Oct 11, 2022 9:42:36 GMT
Aka she’s just not a very nice person. Think it's been deleted now but there was a wonderful tweet the day after she visited the Regent Park production. She posted a picture of herself with the cast and someone replied underneath that they had been sat behind her and she had ruined their night with her behaviour Oh, that's disappointing to hear  |
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 11, 2022 11:10:20 GMT
I must point out, should Ms Paige's lawyers be reading, this is all hearsay.
The Marti Webb tour, if the internet is to be believed, was way back in 1995/96.
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Post by scarpia on Oct 11, 2022 13:01:04 GMT
I think Fuller was involved in the international tour. He was certainly involved in a staging of the original where they had to use the new orchestrations as he voiced disquiet about that in a youtube chat that's probably still up. It was a chat between Fuller and original Magaldi and Mistress Mark Ryan and Siobhan McCarthy and a number of Evas. Really fascinating, though rambling as it's a chat amongst friends/colleagues. I'm afraid the stand out memorable moment was Susannah Fellows remembering how during her entire time within the company as Ensemble and understudy Eva, Elaine Paige never once spoke to her. Can that be true? Brutal to say it in that chat - and brutal if true. She did say, 'a lot of pressure must have been on her', in mitigation, but still... sad to hear. Do all Evas have to go so Method?! Lol Re: Paige, she was/is infamous for protecting her “spot”. She was notorious for this in other jobs too. I’m not sure how much is ego and how much is insecurity, but *she* was the leading lady and wanted to protect that without fear of being replaced. Similar stories from her days in Chess and others. Despite liking Paige, and having met her several times, I have heard some not-great stories...particularly re Sunset on Broadway. Evas in general seem to have issues with their alternates. Patti famously hated her alternate, Terri Klausner, and even goes so far as to slam her in her memoir. The extreme case was in Austria, where the alternate hired thugs to assault the principal Eva, who suffered several facial injuries as a result. |
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Post by Jon on Oct 11, 2022 13:08:53 GMT
Evas in general seem to have issues with their alternates. Patti famously hated her alternate, Terri Klausner, and even goes so far as to slam her in her memoir. The extreme case was in Austria, where the alternate hired thugs to assault the principal Eva, who suffered several facial injuries as a result. That's getting a bit too much into character!! |
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Post by inthenose on Oct 11, 2022 13:17:38 GMT
Evas in general seem to have issues with their alternates. Patti famously hated her alternate, Terri Klausner, and even goes so far as to slam her in her memoir. The extreme case was in Austria, where the alternate hired thugs to assault the principal Eva, who suffered several facial injuries as a result. That's getting a bit too much into character!! She’s lucky she didn’t have her “disappeared” |
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Post by BVM on Oct 7, 2023 12:31:52 GMT
Have found myself wondering, if Sunset Boulevard is the critical success one hopes for (or even if it isn't) with such a buzz currently for an ALW/Jamie Lloyd combo, whether the Barbican Evita transfer may finally happen. Or indeed if it might reappear somewhere else in London! I'd love that to happen.
Was one of the things cancelled due to the Coronavirus that I was most annoyed about (partly as I thought OAT Jesus Christ Superstar got even better when they brought it indoors - mainly due to the added impact of sound and light design).
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Post by shownut on Oct 7, 2023 16:43:54 GMT
Have found myself wondering, if Sunset Boulevard is the critical success one hopes for (or even if it isn't) with such a buzz currently for an ALW/Jamie Lloyd combo, whether the Barbican Evita transfer may finally happen. Or indeed if it might reappear somewhere else in London! I'd love that to happen. Was one of the things cancelled due to the Coronavirus that I was most annoyed about (partly as I thought OAT Jesus Christ Superstar got even better when they brought it indoors - mainly due to the added impact of sound and light design). I'm totally with you on this. So sad that EVITA's run at The Barbican was never brought up again after covid. I normally am a purist when it comes to EVITA but that production knocked me for six. |
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Post by BVM on Oct 7, 2023 17:06:42 GMT
Have found myself wondering, if Sunset Boulevard is the critical success one hopes for (or even if it isn't) with such a buzz currently for an ALW/Jamie Lloyd combo, whether the Barbican Evita transfer may finally happen. Or indeed if it might reappear somewhere else in London! I'd love that to happen. Was one of the things cancelled due to the Coronavirus that I was most annoyed about (partly as I thought OAT Jesus Christ Superstar got even better when they brought it indoors - mainly due to the added impact of sound and light design). I'm totally with you on this. So sad that EVITA's run at The Barbican was never brought up again after covid. I normally am a purist when it comes to EVITA but that production knocked me for six. Same! I know I’ve said it a million times lol, but the fact it made me think differently about a show I literally knew backwards, I thought was brilliant direction. |
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Post by BVM on Jun 29, 2024 22:43:17 GMT
This show is getting a North American premiere as a tour apparently. ALW wanted this to reopen the Delacorte theatre in NYC Central Park but that is not happening now. The Jamie Lloyd version? I am still mourning it's continued cruel absence from London.... |
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Post by justsaying113 on Jun 30, 2024 9:34:47 GMT
Just revive the Hal Prince original - it's never been equalled.
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Post by aspieandy on Jun 30, 2024 10:01:58 GMT
LOL. Can you imagine Jamie Lloyd's prices ..
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Post by blamerobots on Jun 30, 2024 14:34:54 GMT
Just revive the Hal Prince original - it's never been equalled. God, please no. Not without Hal Prince about. The International Tour they had in 2018 where they brought back the Hal Prince set had it with the modern orchestrations and it absolutely butchered the direction and choreography, having to be awkwardly truncated or lengthened painfully to fit the music. The only way it could work was if they brought back the orchestrations they had in the 90's National Tour with Natalie Toro that were utterly glorious. But Andy won't let that happen... EDIT: more about this earlier in the thread... |
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Post by mattnyc on Jun 30, 2024 20:40:27 GMT
Thats so funny, I JUST had a discussion with Samantha Pauly about this a week ago. Talked a lot about the evolution of the production and she did say it’s been (creatively) the highlight of her career so far. But anyways, when I asked if there were plans to do it again and she told me those discussions ended a long time ago when Lloyd said he wouldn’t do it without her. So unless something changed it sounded to me like everyone had moved on from it.
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Post by ceebee on Jun 30, 2024 21:41:19 GMT
LOL. Can you imagine Jamie Lloyd's prices .. And the money kept rolling in... |
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Post by blamerobots on Jun 30, 2024 21:42:30 GMT
I do think JL has got bigger fish to fry right now so a replica tour helmed by someone else would be a very easy thing to keep the money rolling in. But I wouldn't be shocked if they released a pro-shot or something down the line considering JL's rise in popularity.
I get the feeling the Evita in Concert at TRDL was a compensation for the fact things all fell apart in the end in the UK and that's it.
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Post by BVM on Jun 30, 2024 21:47:58 GMT
I do think JL has got bigger fish to fry right now so a replica tour helmed by someone else would be a very easy thing to keep the money rolling in. But I wouldn't be shocked if they released a pro-shot or something down the line considering JL's rise in popularity. I get the feeling the Evita in Concert at TRDL was a compensation for the fact things all fell apart in the end in the UK and that's it. Lol. Wasn’t the concert the point at which things fell apart rather than compensation for it! |
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Post by blamerobots on Jun 30, 2024 21:51:41 GMT
I do think JL has got bigger fish to fry right now so a replica tour helmed by someone else would be a very easy thing to keep the money rolling in. But I wouldn't be shocked if they released a pro-shot or something down the line considering JL's rise in popularity. I get the feeling the Evita in Concert at TRDL was a compensation for the fact things all fell apart in the end in the UK and that's it. Lol. Wasn’t the concert the point at which things fell apart rather than compensation for it! LOL I was there. I still am glad I saw it but that night was so rife with mistakes and missed cues and baffling creative and staging decisions. But I thought the material still held up so well it was an enjoyable night. My favourite memory of that night is the BA dance break where they just had Eva sort of stand upstage smiling and looking about like a lost child at Tesco while all the very skilled dancers were flying about downstage. Let's play which one of these roles is a mover and which is a dancer... But anyways, JL production. Please come back! |
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Post by BVM on Jul 1, 2024 12:34:04 GMT
Lol. Wasn’t the concert the point at which things fell apart rather than compensation for it! LOL I was there. I still am glad I saw it but that night was so rife with mistakes and missed cues and baffling creative and staging decisions. But I thought the material still held up so well it was an enjoyable night. My favourite memory of that night is the BA dance break where they just had Eva sort of stand upstage smiling and looking about like a lost child at Tesco while all the very skilled dancers were flying about downstage. Let's play which one of these roles is a mover and which is a dancer... But anyways, JL production. Please come back! I do actually totally agree with you. Was also at the concert - twice in fact. And I agree I still thought it was a great night - and much better than the bashing it took on here. Compared to many of the problematic concerts, sound, orchestration and orchestra were sensational. It was really well lit. The ensemble were tight and it was certainly semi staged. Matt Rawle is divisive as Che but I like him. Peron was very strong. The only problem was Aul'i. And I'm not sure what the problem was. Either she was miscast, under-rehearsed or under-confident. She could certainly hit the notes (that she remembered). I guess we will never know. The latter two may have improved in time. But you don't have time in a one off concert so guess that brings one back to the answer that she was miscast. But it was a shame as as soon as it became obvious she wasn't really comfortable, it meant the audience wasn't comfortable. Also worth mentioning that Evita has had life since then in the Leicester Curve version. Deeply unpopular on here, and Jamie Lloyd (very) "Lite" in it's feel no doubt - but I loved it. Music sounded fantastic and not a weak link in the cast. (But then I am a fan of the Curve's no set lots of lights showing the innards of the stage type approach!) As for what's next for Evita in the UK - no idea - but I do hope it's something. It's a cracking "total" musical for me with no extraneous music, lyrics or sections. I do think the Jamie Lloyd version could easily be mounted. Even if he is busy, the original direction is done so could easily be taught by one of his associates re creating his direction with him popping in as and when. Interesting to hear above that he wouldn't wanna do it without Samantha Pauly though. She was great. Between her and Scherzy, he's clearly attached to his leading ladies and creates art with actors in mind. |
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Post by blamerobots on Jul 1, 2024 12:38:32 GMT
On the topic of Scherzy... peer into this alternate reality.
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Post by BVM on Jul 1, 2024 12:40:28 GMT
On the topic of Scherzy... peer into this alternate reality. I mean yes - I think she'd be SENSATIONAL as Eva. But I guess everyone would say she's too old now. After she did Cats in London, ALW said quite a few times he'd love to see her as Evita. But sadly I guess the moment has been and gone..... |
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Post by BVM on Sept 15, 2024 19:32:44 GMT
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Post by Jon on Sept 15, 2024 19:36:28 GMT
I'm guessing Barbican or Palladium if it is true?
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