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Post by jgblunners on Aug 18, 2018 9:59:29 GMT
Polycarpou would be perfect. To be honest, I'm not sure I want to see another production so soon after Daniel Evans' fantastic CFT version last year, but Polycarpou would certainly make it very tempting!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 18, 2018 13:09:18 GMT
Maureen Lipman has just signed up for an extended stint in Coronation Street and is moving to Manc for a year, so she’s out of the picture.
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 18, 2018 13:14:23 GMT
And, at 72, she's surely too old to play the mother of teenagers. I know its acting, but there are limits, especially somewhere as intimate as the Menier!
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Post by sf on Aug 18, 2018 14:49:54 GMT
And, at 72, she's surely too old to play the mother of teenagers. I know its acting, but there are limits, especially somewhere as intimate as the Menier!
Who was suggesting Lipman play the mother of teenagers?
As I said - Coronation Street apparently puts her out of the picture, and the fact that she was joining the show (which I haven't watched since about 1988) had passed me by - I thought she'd be great as Yente.
YENTE. NOT GOLDE.
In the film, Yente was played by Molly Picon, who was 73 at the time. On Broadway, the role was originated by Bea Arthur - only 42 in 1964, but there's no reason Yente can't be played older, and she usually is.
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Post by sf on Aug 18, 2018 14:58:40 GMT
Can I throw Samantha Spiro's name in there too.
You certainly can, she'd be a wonderful Golde. With her and Peter Polycarpou in the cast, I'd go and see it.
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Post by jgblunners on Aug 18, 2018 18:39:30 GMT
Polycarpou would be perfect He would, but if he isn't Jewish, will there be some stupid campaign by the professional moaners to prevent him playing it? Hope not, as I agree it's a brilliant idea. Well most of these campaigns seem to be based on caucasian performers stepping into non-caucasian roles so I would hope that a man of Greek descent playing a Russian Jew wouldn't constitute a significant enough ethnic disparity to ruffle anyone's feathers. Those professional moaners will take any excuse though... |
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Post by squidward on Aug 18, 2018 18:55:11 GMT
Polycarpou would be perfect He would, but if he isn't Jewish, will there be some stupid campaign by the professional moaners to prevent him playing it? Hope not, as I agree it's a brilliant idea. Exactly who are ‘the professional moaners’ you are referring to? I don’t recall them staging a protest when either Omid Djalili or Alfred Molina played Tevye? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 19:01:41 GMT
In The current climate I'd be surprised if they don't cast a Jewish actor. especially as I seem to recall some comments surrounding the last Broadway revival and how it was great an actor of Jewish decent was cast. the idea of a none Jewish actor seemed to be frowned upon
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Post by musicalmarge on Aug 18, 2018 20:47:56 GMT
In The current climate I'd be surprised if they don't cast a Jewish actor. especially as I seem to recall some comments surrounding the last Broadway revival and how it was great an actor of Jewish decent was cast. the idea of a none Jewish actor seemed to be frowned upon FOR GOODNESS SAKE IS IT THEATRE AND MAKE BELIEVE!!!! IT IS CALLED ACTING!!! HAS THE WORLD GONE MAD?! |
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Post by gra on Aug 18, 2018 21:36:50 GMT
In The current climate I'd be surprised if they don't cast a Jewish actor. especially as I seem to recall some comments surrounding the last Broadway revival and how it was great an actor of Jewish decent was cast. the idea of a none Jewish actor seemed to be frowned upon FOR GOODNESS SAKE IS IT THEATRE AND MAKE BELIEVE!!!! IT IS CALLED ACTING!!! HAS THE WORLD GONE MAD?! Unfortunately, yes. The world has gone mad, and i fear there's no turning back! |
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Post by londonmzfitz on Aug 19, 2018 0:09:06 GMT
Can I throw Samantha Spiro's name in there too. *shudder* I've not forgiven her for forgetting the lyrics in Guys and Dolls. |
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Post by mallardo on Aug 19, 2018 2:13:02 GMT
He would, but if he isn't Jewish, will there be some stupid campaign by the professional moaners to prevent him playing it? Hope not, as I agree it's a brilliant idea. Exactly who are ‘the professional moaners’ you are referring to? I don’t recall them staging a protest when either Omid Djalili or Alfred Molina played Tevye?
There was a considerable controversy in New York when Molina played Tevye. And, unsurprisingly, he was extremely good in the part - though no one seemed to care about that.
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Post by ali973 on Aug 19, 2018 5:27:17 GMT
There was indeed controversy when Molina played Teyve. Has no one heard Forbidden Broadway's Fiddler With No Jew?
After Sheridan Smith in Funny Girl, the world does not need a Fiddler with no Jewish leading man. Let's all stop being a bunch of Scarlet Johansson and cast consciously.
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Post by popcultureboy on Aug 19, 2018 6:49:36 GMT
There was indeed controversy when Molina played Teyve. Has no one heard Forbidden Broadway's Fiddler With No Jew? After Sheridan Smith in Funny Girl, the world does not need a Fiddler with no Jewish leading man. Let's all stop being a bunch of Scarlet Johansson and cast consciously. Harvey Fierstein took over from Molina in that New York production and was the least convincing father of teenage girls I've ever seen on stage...... I fled at the interval, bored beyond all measure. Saw the most recent revival with Danny Burstein and really loved it. Fully expect the Menier to cast Marcus Brigstocke and Lara Pitt Pulford again. |
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Post by squidward on Aug 19, 2018 11:38:42 GMT
Exactly who are ‘the professional moaners’ you are referring to? I don’t recall them staging a protest when either Omid Djalili or Alfred Molina played Tevye?
There was a considerable controversy in New York when Molina played Tevye. And, unsurprisingly, he was extremely good in the part - though no one seemed to care about that.
Well apologies, I stand corrected then. I hadn’t heard about that. I’m Jewish and personally I disagree that the part MUST be played by a Jewish actor. My opinion is that casting should purely be dependent on the best person for the part. |
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Post by squidward on Aug 19, 2018 11:42:07 GMT
There was indeed controversy when Molina played Teyve. Has no one heard Forbidden Broadway's Fiddler With No Jew? After Sheridan Smith in Funny Girl, the world does not need a Fiddler with no Jewish leading man. Let's all stop being a bunch of Scarlet Johansson and cast consciously. Yes cast consciously of course, but also cast the the best actor for the role. |
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Post by squidward on Aug 19, 2018 11:50:21 GMT
There was indeed controversy when Molina played Teyve. Has no one heard Forbidden Broadway's Fiddler With No Jew? After Sheridan Smith in Funny Girl, the world does not need a Fiddler with no Jewish leading man. Let's all stop being a bunch of Scarlet Johansson and cast consciously. Harvey Fierstein took over from Molina in that New York production and was the least convincing father of teenage girls I've ever seen on stage...... I fled at the interval, bored beyond all measure. Saw the most recent revival with Danny Burstein and really loved it. Fully expect the Menier to cast Marcus Brigstocke and Lara Pitt Pulford again. Harvey Fierstein As Tevye? Oy Vey, that must have been really ‘unique’. Going on previous Menier casting, we may see one or all three Strallens as Tevye’s daughters( or Clare Foster perhaps as Tzeitel) Maureen Lipman as Fruma Sarah, Jenna Russell as a Golde, Damien Humbley as Motel and in his debut stage role, David Babani As Tevye. |
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Post by squidward on Aug 19, 2018 11:50:46 GMT
There was indeed controversy when Molina played Teyve. Has no one heard Forbidden Broadway's Fiddler With No Jew? After Sheridan Smith in Funny Girl, the world does not need a Fiddler with no Jewish leading man. Let's all stop being a bunch of Scarlet Johansson and cast consciously. Harvey Fierstein took over from Molina in that New York production and was the least convincing father of teenage girls I've ever seen on stage...... I fled at the interval, bored beyond all measure. Saw the most recent revival with Danny Burstein and really loved it. Fully expect the Menier to cast Marcus Brigstocke and Lara Pitt Pulford again. Harvey Fierstein As Tevye? Oy Vey, that must have been really ‘unique’. Going on previous Menier casting, we may see one or all three Strallens as Tevye’s daughters( or Clare Foster perhaps as Tzeitel) Maureen Lipman as Fruma Sarah, Jenna Russell as a Golde, Damien Humbley as Motel and in his debut stage role, David Babani As Tevye. |
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Post by squidward on Aug 19, 2018 11:53:48 GMT
Thinking about it, it’s a shame that neither Paul Kaye or Simon Lipkin are old enough to play Tevye. I think both of them could master that role brilliantly if they were closer to the right age.
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Post by cherokee on Aug 19, 2018 12:51:30 GMT
What about Andy Nyman? He was in Assassins at the Menier so he's worked for them before.
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Post by ncbears on Aug 19, 2018 16:14:24 GMT
Thinking about it, it’s a shame that neither Paul Kaye or Simon Lipkin are old enough to play Tevye. I think both of them could master that role brilliantly if they were closer to the right age. How old do you think Tevye is? He is not an old man. He likely was married to Golde between the ages of 18-21. We know he's been married for 25 years midway through Act Two - but by that point Tzeitel has been married and has had a baby - so when the show starts, Tevye likely is between 40-43. Paul Kaye is 53. Simon Lipkin is 32. Topol was 36 when he was in the film version. |
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Post by squidward on Aug 20, 2018 1:17:01 GMT
Thinking about it, it’s a shame that neither Paul Kaye or Simon Lipkin are old enough to play Tevye. I think both of them could master that role brilliantly if they were closer to the right age. How old do you think Tevye is? He is not an old man. He likely was married to Golde between the ages of 18-21. We know he's been married for 25 years midway through Act Two - but by that point Tzeitel has been married and has had a baby - so when the show starts, Tevye likely is between 40-43. Paul Kaye is 53. Simon Lipkin is 32. Topol was 36 when he was in the film version. I’ve always thought of Tevye as being a man in his fifties. Perhaps that’s because Topol has played the role at so many different stages in his life. Simon still looks very young to me, but maybe Paul could be a good choice. He did a cracking version of Fagin’s ‘I’m reviewing the situation’ on a TV show about Klezmer music. It’s been a while since he did Matilda, so maybe this could be the right time for him to do another musical? I’ve seen enough versions of FOTR to last me a lifetime, but if he was in it, I’d book a ticket in a heartbeat. |
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Post by Snciole on Aug 20, 2018 13:55:07 GMT
There was indeed controversy when Molina played Teyve. Has no one heard Forbidden Broadway's Fiddler With No Jew? After Sheridan Smith in Funny Girl, the world does not need a Fiddler with no Jewish leading man. Let's all stop being a bunch of Scarlet Johansson and cast consciously. I love Molina but I don't associate him with musicals and you can clearly tell this was a "He kinda looks exotic, doesn't he" casting. |
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Post by paplazaroo on Aug 20, 2018 14:27:15 GMT
How about Anthony Sher? Mandy Patinkin? too old?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 14:55:15 GMT
I would sell limbs to see Mandy Patinkin in ANYTHING.
(I'd be willing to sell a minor organ or two to not see Sher in anything else ever again.)
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