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Post by chess on Dec 18, 2017 17:50:31 GMT
I'm glad you enjoyed it but I have to disagree on accents not being a 'smart move' for the West End. We actually need more accents in our theatres, lest we become the generic 'American' accent of Broadway. I love that Jamie is giving voice (literally) to somewhere not generically 'London' ...accents are something we're very proud of regionally and it's great to have them in the West End. So if a few tourists have a bit of trouble understanding I say (with love) tough, deal with it. Because it's great to occasionally hear another 'voice' on stage. Speaking as a fellow non-native speaker, I can guarantee that accents are something you get better accustomed to the more you are exposed to them. I remember years ago seeing Billy Elliott for the first time... oh my, did I struggle with the accent and with some of the expressions, which I wasn't familiar with at all. Flash-forward to a good few years later (and having been living here for a while now), and not even once did I have issues with the accents in "Everybody's talking about Jamie". And having seen the original documentary, it would probably weird me out slightly, if in the show he spoke with RP. Like emicardiff was saying, I believe accents add to the value of a play or musical, because... well, because we all have one - regardless of how strong - and "real" people don't go about their daily lives sticking to RP and the rules of enunciation the whole time. So... my suggestion, chess, is to embrace regional accents and learn to enjoy what makes them different from one another - it'll require an additional effort, at first, but it will totally pay off. . Don’t get me wrong I have nothing against accents. I am just saying in a london market, where tourists are important, it doesn’t help a show that has to finds its audience. Last week I saw the ferryman and jamie, both shows which are difficult for me, but I still rated them 5 stars.
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Post by viserys on Dec 18, 2017 17:59:47 GMT
I don't think that many foreign tourists darken the doors of Jamie or the Ferryman or similar shows... they flock to jukebox stuff like Mamma mia and longruns like Phantom. If a show is good it will find its audience no matter what, see Billy Elliot with its Geordie accents.
I struggle with accents too but I much prefer the British way of using accents all the time on stage and television than the sanitized German way where people on stage and screen speak some artificial stiff German that sounds so unnatural that I find it impossible to watch a lot of things.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 18, 2017 18:17:17 GMT
viserys didn’t struggle with my accent when we met in person ‘cos I pterry much speak like Prince Charles don’t I viserys?
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Post by ali973 on Dec 18, 2017 18:20:55 GMT
I saw some Italian tourists on my second outing, and I felt bad that they didn't get most of the humor in the book scenes.
I normally am okay with accents - bar some extreme regional oddities, and I honestly had no issues whatsoever with Jamie.
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Post by viserys on Dec 18, 2017 18:34:29 GMT
viserys didn’t struggle with my accent when we met in person ‘cos I pterry much speak like Prince Charles don’t I viserys ? Indeed, Sir, I understood you fairly well. I also understand Emily pretty well (although I struggle badly with another Welsh friend). But then I guess I was toughened up early on: My school had a school exchange programme going with a school in Easington near Durham (yup, Billy Elliot territory), so you can imagine that us poor little Germans, having only learned some Oxford English at school, were a bit flabbergasted when we had to communicate with our local partners and their families.
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Post by gmoneyoutlaw on Dec 18, 2017 18:43:19 GMT
I enjoyed the accents. Jamie is possibly the most diverse cast on the West End. I don't think Hamilton comes close. What I had a problem with is that many of the songs don't move the story forward or add anything new. Take: That's My Boy. Why there, why now in the story. Everybody's Talking About Jamie starts off with so much energy and then becomes a bit dull. I admired the set, although I don't know why the floor/Platform is so high. There's only one insert so where is the need. Does it have something to do with the tech of the Apollo Theatre and not the show?
Transfer to Broadway? Not a chance of that happening.
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Post by Jon on Dec 18, 2017 19:25:34 GMT
Unless Jamie becomes a long runner then I think the chances of it transferring to Broadway is zilch.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 18, 2017 19:30:25 GMT
It sounds very much like the theatrical equivalent of fake news to me.
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Post by ali973 on Dec 18, 2017 20:25:29 GMT
Does anyone know if Luke Bayer has gone on as Jamie yet? He's a mutual friend of a few of my friends so I'd be really interested in hearing how his performance is. There's a clip of him performing You Matter to Me on the Theatre Cafe's Facebook page. This is like the fifth Waitress song I've live streamed that is performed from either Theatre Cafe or Leon. Oh for the love of God just get this done in London already so that they stop torturing us with these covers already.
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Post by showtoones on Dec 18, 2017 21:12:15 GMT
Perhaps they could do the show on Broadway but set it in America somewhere....just like the Ful Monty was moved to update new York. I do think the accents will be hard for some Americans to get...
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Post by TallPaul on Dec 19, 2017 13:52:33 GMT
The couple sitting next to me were French, and the two women I followed up the stairs, who both loved it, were American, as was the woman buying a £5 ice lolly during the interval.
And nobody on that stage speaks with a Sheffield accent. Trust me.
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Post by theatreian on Dec 20, 2017 15:57:22 GMT
Saw this last night and loved it . The whole cast are amazing and it has a great mix of humour , music and a great story. Really enjoyed the performance and would recommend it .
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Post by Mark on Dec 21, 2017 7:22:00 GMT
Saw the show for a second time yesterday afternoon. It has certainly tightened since the third preview. In particular the ending is smoother and the sound much more balanced.
John McCrea impressed once again, he’s got so much energy.
All three levels open this afternoon which was good to see. I got a dayseat at around 1pm in row N stalls.
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Post by Jon on Dec 23, 2017 2:30:51 GMT
I saw the Friday matinee and quite enjoyed it, it was nice to see a new British musical and I can see John McCrea and Josie Walker getting nominations at the Oliviers.
All levels were open although I was upgraded from back to the stalls to Row Q.
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Post by westendcub on Dec 23, 2017 11:21:12 GMT
Won the Today Tix lottery for the matinee today!! Got this and ‘The Lost Boy Peter Pan’ this eve....stagey day!!
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Post by westendcub on Dec 23, 2017 18:05:21 GMT
So today I was a lucky ‘TodayTix’ lottery winner for the matinee.
I didn’t mind the high stage one bit (but wouldn’t be for everyone!) - the two far right seats though are narrow & they look a little tight to be sat but I had lovely leg space and loved being so close to the whole show!
So today I saw my favourite new British musical since ‘Made In Dagenham’. I’m so glad I recently caught the documentary that this musical was born from, they have taken his story and turned it into a fabulous heartfelt show!
The songs are memorable, great sound and a good set.
The ensemble here is so strong, some excellent choreography and direction.
I adored all the cast but wow at ‘Jamie’ and his mother - I cried many a tears through the moving moments and songs.
I need to put this out there but I have the biggest crush on the actor playing the school bully ‘Dean’.
The theatre felt full, all levels open and a good mixed audience seeing this (some very cute men) and this makes me happy to see a story such as this finding an diverse audience!
This musical had everything for me...great songs, funny moments, great performances and so moving (and well so fabulous and Gay!!).
I cannot wait to get this one again in the new year!!
🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
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Post by HereForTheatre on Dec 23, 2017 18:17:56 GMT
So today I was a lucky ‘TodayTix’ lottery winner for the matinee. I didn’t mind the high stage one bit (but wouldn’t be for everyone!) - the two far right seats though are narrow & they look a little tight to be sat but I had lovely leg space and loved being so close to the whole show! So today I saw my favourite new British musical since ‘Made In Dagenham’. I’m so glad I recently caught the documentary that this musical was born from, they have taken his story and turned it into a fabulous heartfelt show! The songs are memorable, great sound and a good set. The ensemble here is so strong, some excellent choreography and direction. I adored all the cast but wow at ‘Jamie’ and his mother - I cried many a tears through the moving moments and songs. I need to put this out there but I have the biggest crush on the actor playing the school bully ‘Dean’.
The theatre felt full, all levels open and a good mixed audience seeing this (some very cute men) and this makes me happy to see a story such as this finding an diverse audience! This musical had everything for me...great songs, funny moments, great performances and so moving (and well so fabulous and Gay!!). I cannot wait to get this one again in the new year!! 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈 I don't think you are the only one!
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Post by vabbian on Dec 28, 2017 17:36:13 GMT
Just fabulous! A well deserved transfer to the west end.
The mum is the standout in this for me. Sitting in the front row you do really get the full blast of emotions when she does her solo.
5/5
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Post by Mr Wallacio on Dec 30, 2017 14:23:27 GMT
Nabbed myself a dayseat. Row H, brilliant view, so no complaints so far. Stalls are packed, and it sounds like the other levels are busy too so I'm delighted with the seat I nabbed (it pays to be single sometimes).
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Post by robertb213 on Dec 30, 2017 18:48:37 GMT
Nabbed myself a dayseat. Row H, brilliant view, so no complaints so far. Stalls are packed, and it sounds like the other levels are busy too so I'm delighted with the seat I nabbed (it pays to be single sometimes). I was in Row H at the matinee today too! Loved the show, even with the shocking legroom (but then I am a giant). Hope you enjoyed it 😁
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Post by theatreian on Dec 30, 2017 22:19:00 GMT
So glad you enjoyed it. It is an excellent piece of theatre and standout performances all round.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 23:29:22 GMT
More detailed thoughts when I’m home. But what a joyous end to a year of theatre. Loved this- real heart and an emotional core but without being worthy or taking itself too seriously. Loved the music and the choreography. I laughed, I cried, all in all a damn fine piece of musical theatre. And a lovely evening all round.
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Post by Mr Wallacio on Dec 31, 2017 9:56:18 GMT
Nabbed myself a dayseat. Row H, brilliant view, so no complaints so far. Stalls are packed, and it sounds like the other levels are busy too so I'm delighted with the seat I nabbed (it pays to be single sometimes). I was in Row H at the matinee today too! Loved the show, even with the shocking legroom (but then I am a giant). Hope you enjoyed it 😁 Loved it. Brilliant view from the seat too.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 31, 2017 11:47:36 GMT
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Post by drowseychap on Dec 31, 2017 16:22:24 GMT
Took a chance on the lottery and 130mile drive sadly no win today but very helpful box office helped us with some nice seats at a good price
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