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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 2:36:21 GMT
starring Omid Djalili and Tracy-Ann Oberman
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 16, 2017 6:05:33 GMT
Don't like him, don't like the show. Dated and depressing.
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Post by frankubelik on Feb 16, 2017 6:36:19 GMT
Agreed. Last revival was (via Sheffield) only 7 years ago. Do we really need Caroline too? Very poor choices to start his season. First time in over fifteen years that I will not be going to Chichester.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 6:55:56 GMT
the (very good) uk tour was even more recent. I like the show but I agree, dont think ill be going to Chichester this year
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Post by stevej678 on Feb 16, 2017 8:24:30 GMT
There's also a production of Fiddler on the Roof, from 17th February until 11th March, as part of the Liverpool Everyman's new season. It's the first production for the Everyman's new rep company.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 8:30:22 GMT
I don't mind the show (though it is too long) - the semi-staged version at the Proms a couple of years ago was good.
But not a fan of the casting here, so I doubt I'll be bothering. Disappointing Chichester season, but at least I'll save some money!
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Post by mallardo on Feb 16, 2017 8:30:26 GMT
Don't like him, don't like the show. Dated and depressing.
Fiddler is dated? A show about community and bigotry and turning people into refugees could hardly be more topical.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 8:35:45 GMT
Do we NEED Caroline? Do we NEED Fiddler? Do we NEED Lear? Do we NEED theatre? Out of curiosity, what shows do people consider to be absolute necessities of life? Not shows you think are great and important and deserve to be seen by loads of people, but shows we NEED. 'Cos I'd argue there is no single show that anyone NEEDS. I'd even argue that theatre itself is of limited NEED (clearly many of us here wouldn't know what to do with ourselves if we didn't have it, but equally clearly large swathes of the population manage to live fulfilling lives without knowing which way up a proscenium goes). I don't get this idea that there has to be a NEED for a show. mallardo does make an excellent point about the continued relevance of Fiddler, especially as anti-semitism is making itself all too frequent these days. And let's not forget the excellent point someone else made the other day that Chichester is scheduling for *Chichester*. Sure, they want people to come and visit from outside Chichester, but it's still a regional theatre that has a region to serve, regardless of what London thinks or other regions are doing. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 8:36:15 GMT
Don't like him, don't like the show. Dated and depressing.
Fiddler is dated? A show about community and bigotry and turning people into refugees could hardly be more topical.
Completely agree about Fiddler being topical. Great score too. Not every musical done at Chichester has to transfer either. Daniel has a track record of reviving older musicals to great critical success.....My Fair Lady, Anything Goes, Show Boat. Excited! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 8:39:03 GMT
Fiddler is both topical and a classic musical. And as mentioned above, the regions are programming for THEIR audiences. Yes it's lovely when somewhere has a success that goes on and tours/does a London run, but ultimately the bread and butter of the programme is to serve the audience there. So if the powers that be reasonably think their audiences want a Fiddler revival, and I can see how that would appeal to their demographic, then it's not for 'London' to judge...
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Post by boybooshka on Feb 16, 2017 8:48:36 GMT
Brilliantly said Baemax. I do sometimes wonder why some of the people on here belong to a theatre forum when they seem to take every production announcement as a personal affront to them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 8:51:23 GMT
Also, Fiddler is a GREAT show. The songs, the characters, the story, the refusal to shy away from grimness, the celebration of the community, THAT EFFING RIDICULOUS DREAM SEQUENCE. Good for you if you're bored of it, but that doesn't make it any less timelessly excellent.
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Post by wickedgrin on Feb 16, 2017 8:56:20 GMT
Yes, Fiddler is a great classic show. However, it is not one of my favourites, and like most classic shows I have seen it umpteen times and would have preferred something that isn't revived quite as often.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 8:57:06 GMT
Also why are we assuming everyone has seen Fiddler? I haven't, and I'm a regular theatre goer/musicals lover. So I bet there's plenty more casual theatre goers who have never seen it and are curious. And good for them, they'll get what will probably be an excellent production of a classic musical.
I'm all for new work, but I'm also all for revivals of classics that are classics for a reason.
And I quite like Omid Djalli.
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Post by wickedgrin on Feb 16, 2017 9:02:30 GMT
Oh, absolutely emicardiff, theatre is totally subjective and it's great that classic shows are revived for new generations. For me, however, being somewhat "cough" older, I remember seeing Topol on stage!!
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Post by herrstiefel on Feb 16, 2017 9:20:04 GMT
Also why are we assuming everyone has seen Fiddler? I haven't, and I'm a regular theatre goer/musicals lover. So I bet there's plenty more casual theatre goers who have never seen it and are curious. And good for them, they'll get what will probably be an excellent production of a classic musical. I'm all for new work, but I'm also all for revivals of classics that are classics for a reason. And I quite like Omid Djalli. Well, when I was talking to my students only 20% of them knew about the show, compared to 90% who had seen the whole "Highschool Musical"-Trilogy. So maybe it's a good thing there's a new production every now and then to expose them to a bit of classic musical theatre. Especially a once groundbreaking show like "Fiddler". |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 9:22:36 GMT
I'm up for Fidler though I thought the main character was Jewish? Just looked on the lead guys wiki and he ain't? I thought that sort of thing was frowned upon these days?
Anywho for those moaning they won't be treking to Chi this years programming is 17,000 times more exciting and interesting than last years so I have no idea what planet ur on!
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Post by herrstiefel on Feb 16, 2017 9:29:06 GMT
Alfred Molina also caused some controversy when he was cast as Tevye in NYC a few years back. But with everyone cheering about colourblind or diverse casting these days (looking at you Hamilton) why do we still have to frown upon non-jewish actors playing Tevye?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 9:31:58 GMT
But with everyone cheering about colourblind or diverse casting these days (looking at you Hamilton) why do we still have to frown upon non-jewish actors playing Tevye? Ooooooo controversy, I love it!  |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 16, 2017 9:34:57 GMT
Really underwhelmed by this.
They have the resources to revive a show that's not revived every year.. and they chose this.
Plus the casting of Djalili puts me right off. Horrible man. That's some money saved this year then!
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Post by mallardo on Feb 16, 2017 9:36:55 GMT
I'm up for Fidler though I thought the main character was Jewish? Just looked on the lead guys wiki and he ain't? I thought that sort of thing was frowned upon these days?
It was an issue in New York back in 2004 in the David Leveaux production when Alfred Molina played Tevye. I saw it and thought Molina was excellent but there was certainly a lot of muttering about it - and about Leveaux's not-quite-so-ethnic staging.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 9:38:41 GMT
Like Tracy but don't like Omid
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Post by ali973 on Feb 16, 2017 9:54:40 GMT
Alfred Molina also caused some controversy when he was cast as Tevye in NYC a few years back. But with everyone cheering about colourblind or diverse casting these days (looking at you Hamilton) why do we still have to frown upon non-jewish actors playing Tevye? Reminds me of the Forbidden Broadway classic, Fiddler With New Jew! |
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Post by herrstiefel on Feb 16, 2017 10:36:18 GMT
I'm up for Fidler though I thought the main character was Jewish? Just looked on the lead guys wiki and he ain't? I thought that sort of thing was frowned upon these days?
It was an issue in New York back in 2004 in the David Leveaux production when Alfred Molina played Tevye. I saw it and thought Molina was excellent but there was certainly a lot of muttering about it - and about Leveaux's not-quite-so-ethnic staging.
I also enjoyed Molina's portrayal. Definitely better casting than his replacement Harvey Fierstein. Also a brilliant actor but totally miscast as Tevye. |
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Post by Mr Snow on Feb 16, 2017 10:38:50 GMT
Do we NEED Caroline? Do we NEED Fiddler? Do we NEED Lear? Do we NEED theatre? Out of curiosity, what shows do people consider to be absolute necessities of life? Not shows you think are great and important and deserve to be seen by loads of people, but shows we NEED. 'Cos I'd argue there is no single show that anyone NEEDS. I'd even argue that theatre itself is of limited NEED (clearly many of us here wouldn't know what to do with ourselves if we didn't have it, but equally clearly large swathes of the population manage to live fulfilling lives without knowing which way up a proscenium goes). I don't get this idea that there has to be a NEED for a show. mallardo does make an excellent point about the continued relevance of Fiddler, especially as anti-semitism is making itself all too frequent these days. And let's not forget the excellent point someone else made the other day that Chichester is scheduling for *Chichester*. Sure, they want people to come and visit from outside Chichester, but it's still a regional theatre that has a region to serve, regardless of what London thinks or other regions are doing. It's not which shows...it's theatre, it's life, it's culture. They are basic needs. When society breaks down e.g. Syria and life is solely about finding food and surving art is still essential. Can you imagine the relief, how human you would feel when you escape from barbarism and together with others you listen ot a story being told? Essential and its a TRADITION. I think this is the point that EVERY modern Opera procution is not so subtly making. We are never far from the machine gun and the breakdown of our safe life and if nothing else the memory of Theatre can help us get through and long for better days. Fiddler shows such times and how we continue to stuggle on...Essential viewing. I hope its a great production and I get to see it. |
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A show about community and bigotry and turning people into refugees could hardly be more topical.
