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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 8, 2024 11:32:22 GMT
Maybe the luvvies who supported the walk out and did get paid in full could collectively fund the payment of the theatre support staff who have lost employment for 3 weeks because of their actions?
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Post by Being Alive on Oct 8, 2024 11:33:55 GMT
For those here who've worked FOH before, has there ever been clauses for situations like this? Can't imagine just losing three weeks pay for this situation You're on a zero hours contract so no - when I've worked FOH before you usually keep accruing holiday, so I always kept a couple of weeks of holiday pay in the bank in case of situations like this. |
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Post by blamerobots on Oct 8, 2024 11:54:16 GMT
For those here who've worked FOH before, has there ever been clauses for situations like this? Can't imagine just losing three weeks pay for this situation You're on a zero hours contract so no - when I've worked FOH before you usually keep accruing holiday, so I always kept a couple of weeks of holiday pay in the bank in case of situations like this. Thank you very much for the insight. Will wait until more comes about it but it's a shame it doesn't seem like any kind of help is being offered to the FOH staff in this pretty dire situation |
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Post by nash16 on Oct 8, 2024 11:58:12 GMT
Maybe the luvvies who supported the walk out and did get paid in full could collectively fund the payment of the theatre support staff who have lost employment for 3 weeks because of their actions? You’re the Admin on this THEATREboard and you use the demeaning term “luvvies” to refer to actors?  ? |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 8, 2024 12:00:57 GMT
Yes, in reference to these particular actors. Because I don’t have a very high opinion of the people involved here.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Oct 8, 2024 16:18:23 GMT
Yes, in reference to these particular actors. Because I don’t have a very high opinion of the people involved here. Agreed. It’s screaming entitlement and me, me, me. I’ve done FOH and I am not surprised at their outrage. Feel for them. |
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Post by lemiz1862 on Oct 15, 2024 9:44:11 GMT
Seems there is a bit more of the story here from the Guardian: Artistic freedom in our theatres is being lost to fear and self-censorship"Yet some staff told me a different story. Everyone agrees the show was running far behind schedule. One cast member described tech rehearsals as “a clusterf***”. With days to go, O’Driscoll introduced not just a rap, but audience participation games and a call-and-response exercise that would have roused the audience to take part in the “free Palestine” chant." Sorry but I understand why the theatre would find a "call and response" with the audience that includes a Free Palestine chant rather problematic. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 15, 2024 10:22:58 GMT
If the director had been upfront about her intentions, she may well have got management buy in to all of her ideas and the marketing could have been modified to promote it appropriately.
It isn't censorship or loss of artistic freedom for theatre management to ask for changes when last minute changes are being incorporated that go well beyond the production as pitched (and subsequently marketed)
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 15, 2024 11:17:26 GMT
Seems there is a bit more of the story here from the Guardian: Artistic freedom in our theatres is being lost to fear and self-censorship"Yet some staff told me a different story. Everyone agrees the show was running far behind schedule. One cast member described tech rehearsals as “a clusterf***”. With days to go, O’Driscoll introduced not just a rap, but audience participation games and a call-and-response exercise that would have roused the audience to take part in the “free Palestine” chant." Sorry but I understand why the theatre would find a "call and response" with the audience that includes a Free Palestine chant rather problematic. I was at an event earlier this year, a speaker decided it would be beneficial for us to all to chant From the rivers to sea. Lots of us walked out. |
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Oct 15, 2024 14:56:23 GMT
Seems there is a bit more of the story here from the Guardian: Artistic freedom in our theatres is being lost to fear and self-censorship"Yet some staff told me a different story. Everyone agrees the show was running far behind schedule. One cast member described tech rehearsals as “a clusterf***”. With days to go, O’Driscoll introduced not just a rap, but audience participation games and a call-and-response exercise that would have roused the audience to take part in the “free Palestine” chant." Sorry but I understand why the theatre would find a "call and response" with the audience that includes a Free Palestine chant rather problematic. I was at an event earlier this year, a speaker decided it would be beneficial for us to all to chant From the rivers to sea. Lots of us walked out. Christ that's horrendous and offensive. I realise I've generally been on the not pro-Royal Exchange side, but the production does sound like an almighty cluster**** all round. |
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Post by jake on Oct 15, 2024 15:57:40 GMT
If the director had been upfront about her intentions, she may well have got management buy in to all of her ideas and the marketing could have been modified to promote it appropriately. It isn't censorship or loss of artistic freedom for theatre management to ask for changes when last minute changes are being incorporated that go well beyond the production as pitched (and subsequently marketed) Yes. The theatre has no obligation to any particular company/director; and it isn't censorship to say 'if you want to do that, find another venue'. Arguably, though, it does have obligations to the wider community as a whole (especially if it receives public funds) and to the audience that pays for tickets. There is scope for hosting unconventional productions and for edgy interpretations of well-known plays. But if I attended something billed as Shakespeare or Ibsen or even a political playwright such as David Hare and found I was being invited to join in partisan chanting I'd be disappointed. If I were being pressured to join in partisan chanting that I disagreed with I'd feel uncomfortable. If I were being pressured to join in partisan chanting that I found profoundly offensive I'd be angry. If I found the venue seemed to endorse this I'd almost certainly never buy another ticket from them. I don't know how true the Guardian's report is; but if it is substantially accurate, I'd say the Royal Exchange had little choice but to cancel. |
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