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Post by hal9000 on Jun 8, 2016 23:19:56 GMT
I had a ticket to go in London but was nursing a hangover and went to bed. I have regretted it ever since.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 8:53:24 GMT
The original was in Edinburgh.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 8:56:36 GMT
I had a ticket to go in London but was nursing a hangover and went to bed. I have regretted it ever since. Roger Allam Jodhi may Hated it |
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Post by peggs on Jun 9, 2016 11:21:41 GMT
I saw the London version in a half empty theatre, early theatre days for me, I can remember having real difficulty telling people about it afterwards as I got very odd looks when I described the content.
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Post by duncan on Jun 9, 2016 17:23:35 GMT
I didnt see the Edinburgh original but I saw the London revival with Allam and May, I liked it.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 9, 2016 18:24:17 GMT
Love to see this, another one from the English play factory that exports to New York.
A very controversial subject to do a play on, so needs to be done with great skill. I saw a similar play at the Southwark Playhouse last year, the Pulitzer winning and very good How I Learnt to Drive, little did I know at the time that I would end up doing jury service virtually next door, in a case that mirrored that play.
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Post by Boob on Jun 9, 2016 18:44:36 GMT
Don't worry, you didn't miss much. An over-rated play and I just remember Jodhi May doing her misery schitck (replicated in Polar Bars and elsewhere) and a rather surprising ending!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 18:57:44 GMT
I saw the original London as well. Thought it was really interesting as a play tackling challenging subject matter. I was fairly young at the time so I'd like to see it again to see what I make of it now. Being an Allam fan, I can't help but remember him being brilliant, but I appreciate I'm biased so probably mis-remembering just how great.
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Post by peggs on Jun 9, 2016 19:09:41 GMT
I had little theatre experience to compare it to and found it uncomfortable, challenging viewing as I think you'd expect but I remember disliking it, looking back now I'm rather surprised I saw it as I can't remember what the hook was to get me in, my theatre going had not reached a 'let's just try that', I don't think I knew the actors so must have been the content that sounded interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:48:03 GMT
Love to see this, another one from the English play factory that exports to New York. David Harrower, the writer, is Scottish and the original production was by Edinburgh International Festival, which is also Scottish, directed by Peter Stein, who is German, so f*** all to do with any English play factory. |
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Post by dlevi on Jun 10, 2016 22:19:33 GMT
I saw the original production in the West End and thought it was one of the worst things I'd ever seen. When it was produced off-Broadway a few years ago I avoided it . Nothing could induce me to see it again. The this year I was given a ticket to the Broadway revival and having nothing else to do that evening I went. And it was RIVETING! Brilliant performances and direction. A thrilling production that is not to be missed. Fun? No. But amazing.
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Post by ncbears on Jan 8, 2017 18:49:00 GMT
It's a film, now.
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Post by popcultureboy on Jan 8, 2017 19:09:38 GMT
I saw it at the Film Festival in November. It has some differences to the play, of course, but I find it's lingered in my brain since seeing it, which is presumably the point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 19:22:45 GMT
Wow... that film looks great! I wonder why it hasn't been getting more attention? I didn't even know it was being released but it looks really interesting, and Rooney Mara is always terrific!  |
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Post by profquatermass on Jan 8, 2017 22:26:57 GMT
I think the London production was a transfer rather than a revival I thought it was brilliant - the dialogue was very strange and sounded rather as if it had been run through Google translate. But it was gripping and disturbing and with a chilling ending. Jodhi May did a rather similar role in the Talking Cure with Ralph Fiennes. I don't get why she's not more famous though she seems to keep working
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Post by duncan on Jan 9, 2017 14:44:55 GMT
As I mentioned up thread and which seems to have been ignored - it premiered in Edinburgh during the festival. Anyone who saw the original London run did indeed see a transfer and not the original production.
Parochial rant over!
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Post by danielwhit on Jan 9, 2017 21:47:13 GMT
The transfer had a different ending also - so only people who saw the Edinburgh run saw the original final scene.
I nearly went to see the film in October/November in one of its very few screenings in London, however as I was in the middle of directing Blackbird at the time it felt like a stupid thing to do!
That trailer looks promising though - I was worried about how the drama could translate across to film. Will definitely give it a watch sooner or later.
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Post by profquatermass on Jan 9, 2017 22:58:58 GMT
How was the ending different? Can you spoiler tag it? I thought the final scene was completely brilliant. In a a really unsettling away
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Post by bcnyc on Jan 12, 2017 18:41:36 GMT
Years ago when the Broadway production was off Broadway (same director, actor, and production) I heard the director say there was a scene in the London version that wasn't in the script the author wasn't happy with, but since it was a silent scene there was nothing he could do. Can anyone talk about what that scene was?
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Post by profquatermass on Jan 12, 2017 19:01:56 GMT
There was a fair amount of milling about by extras in the background being factory workers (like you often get in Travelex productions) and there was a car crash I think. Which I thought really exciting but I'm easily pleased. Is that the extra scene? If you've seen the play you can probably guess what might have happened.
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Post by bcnyc on Jan 12, 2017 20:13:09 GMT
Interesting. That almost makes zero sense since there are lines about how it's late, everyone else went home for the day, etc.
A crash is interesting, but the play already ends ambiguously so why add another "what happened?" at the end.
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Post by profquatermass on Jan 12, 2017 20:29:39 GMT
To be honest I can't exactly remember what the car did but it was driven on and was quite impressive. I don't think the ending was actually ambiguous. One of the characters got pretty annoyed at the end. And the penultimate scene made other things clear
There were blurry people wandering around in the background behind a screen. I always wonder what you get paid for doing that
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Post by bcnyc on Jan 12, 2017 21:14:09 GMT
I can't speak to British Equity, but on Broadway bit parts/extras like that are generally the two understudies and maybe a stage manager with a small bump in pay.
Oh, really? It's pretty ambiguous who the girl who comes on at the end is. Is he telling the truth about who she is or is he doing it all over again. One can make a strong assumption, but I know Jeff Daniels and Joe Mantello wanted to make it unclear.
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Post by danielwhit on Jan 14, 2017 17:59:40 GMT
It's the type of play which embeds many different possible sets of truths. The ending of the script itself isn't ambiguous - however the "what happens next?" bit certainly does have a lot of possibilities when they leave the room and head outside (and the realm of possibilities here changes based on the interpretations made earlier in the play). That's probably why the "extra scene" was chopped out, at a guess.
On the UK Tour, the understudies were who knocked on the door etc.
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