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Post by primitivewallflower on Jul 5, 2016 17:19:37 GMT
I think the profit-sharing issue (led -- or at least brought up quite a bit -- by Leslie) is probably adding to complications. Yes, I haven't seen any evidence of this either way but it's easy to imagine the producers trying to claw back some of that on the wage side in negotiations. |
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Post by ali973 on Jul 5, 2016 17:49:00 GMT
It was speculated that it was Josh Henry. Then the post also mentions it is Daniel Breaker as Burr.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 5, 2016 17:57:00 GMT
Yep the thread on BWW where someone close to the production (or a future actor) alludes to one of the men of Shuffle to take over as Burr once said show closes (and an u/s filling in in the meanwhile).
As for what the leaving OBC will be up to
Lin said he'll be back in the role- I trust him on that lol
Phillipa has landed Amelie in the upcoming season, and intends to pursue Tv and film work also- so I think this is the last of the Hamilton journey for her. She's a Julliard graduate who's had back to back (sometimes overlapping) work since the moment she graduated- I feel like she'll have no problem staying employed.
And as for Leslie- I think there was bad blood there. Either with Lin or with the producers. I doubt he'll return to the role in the future.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Jul 5, 2016 18:00:45 GMT
Yep the thread on BWW where someone close to the production (or a future actor) alludes to one of the men of Shuffle to take over as Burr once said show closes (and an u/s filling in in the meanwhile). |
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 5, 2016 18:03:48 GMT
Yep the thread on BWW where someone close to the production (or a future actor) alludes to one of the men of Shuffle to take over as Burr once said show closes (and an u/s filling in in the meanwhile). I actually think it's real and the person was found IRL and got in trouble for it... I mean how many people know this inside knowledge... Had it been a prank I think he would've at least posted more than once- you know, keep playing lol But of course it could be a prank! |
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 5, 2016 18:20:02 GMT
Yep the thread on BWW where someone close to the production (or a future actor) alludes to one of the men of Shuffle to take over as Burr once said show closes (and an u/s filling in in the meanwhile). If you look at their previous posts, the tone and personality don't really change, and they say a lot about Shuffle Along. I'm with ShoesForRent in that they specifically got in trouble, or whoever their employer is (if it's a currently running show) put out a reminder notice to their entire company to stop posting things before a press release comes out. |
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Post by primitivewallflower on Jul 5, 2016 18:37:49 GMT
And as for Leslie- I think there was bad blood there. Either with Lin or with the producers. I doubt he'll return to the role in the future. I agree that LOJ's situation seems to have the biggest whiff of some sort of drama. Simplest explanations are that it's connected either to the profit sharing and/or his salary demands. Doubt it's with Lin as he seemed genuinely appreciative at the Tonys, but who knows. Sounds like a good journalistic scoop. |
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 5, 2016 18:44:30 GMT
And as for Leslie- I think there was bad blood there. Either with Lin or with the producers. I doubt he'll return to the role in the future. I agree that LOJ's situation seems to have the biggest whiff of some sort of drama. Simplest explanations are that it's connected either to the profit sharing and/or his salary demands. Doubt it's with Lin as he seemed genuinely appreciative at the Tonys, but who knows. Sounds like a good journalistic scoop. On DataLounge (a gross little corner of the internet- really that place can get vile) there is gossip of backstage bad blood between the two, that they can't be in the same room, that there is tension backstage and that Lin demanded Leslie doesn't take photos with Clinton backstage when she saw the show. And he really isn't in the group shots, only one with Daveed. I really don't know what to think, as they both seem like very nice men, but you really can't know what goes on behind the scenes. I agree tough it's most likely with Jeffery Seller regarding the big media attention Leslie drew to the profit sharing thing. |
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 5, 2016 18:50:16 GMT
Nice to know I'm not the only one who reads Datalounge!  |
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 5, 2016 18:55:22 GMT
Sometimes it's super funny but most times they're just... mean lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 19:14:58 GMT
Datalounge often comes up with the most bizarre rumours though, I really don't believe anything I read there. Note that they don't even have to have usernames, they can just post completely anonymously. Seems like they've just caught on to the fact that for whatever reason Leslie wasn't in the group photo with Hillary and decided to use it to fuel the gossip they're making up. If Lin hated him that much I'm sure he could have got him fired a long time ago rather than take out his anger on a group photo with Hillary Clinton hahaha. They seem friendly enough on Leslie's vlog for broadway.com.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 5, 2016 19:17:44 GMT
I can think of a few times someone there has predicted (or leaked) Broadway news, but the users there seem to be at a 50/50 success rate. Its anonymity is both its upside and downside!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 19:36:11 GMT
Hmm, from my experience it's more a 10% success rate. According to them, everyone in the public eye is incredibly sexually active and of course all the men married to women with children are actually gay. (I'm well aware that some of them are, but still).
I think there were obviously tensions between the cast and the producers, mostly Leslie and Phillipa by the looks of it over money. The cast probably aren't big fans of Jeffrey Seller. I really don't think there is any tension between the cast though, other than the tension that happens in most workplaces when you see the same people everyday for two years. The people on Datalounge are trying to make out that everyone can't jump ship fast enough but I actually think it's surprising that only 3 of the principals are leaving. They've been doing it for much longer than the average one year contracts that you get when you first go to Broadway, as there was hardly a break between off-Broadway and Broadway. Lin and Phillipa are leaving to pursue other projects that they've already been offered, which seems sensible. Leslie leaving is the only one where his reasons for doing so may seem questionable, but again, there's every reason to believe he's just bored of playing the part by this point. It's hardly unheard of for someone to leave a role after 18 months.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 7:39:53 GMT
I know nothing of the gossip but I agree it doesn't seem that unusual. Lin and Phillipa's roles have obviously been in the pipeline for a while, and I think someone mentioned above that Rene has worked almost non stop (pardon the pun) so either she has something/a few things lined up, or she's just ready for a change. Leslie also might have something lined up he can't announce yet, or as he's just released his album maybe some stuff connected to that/a break before a new job. Maybe there's tension maybe there's not but the more likely is just that people are ready for a change!
Hell I work in a 'normal' job and two years in exactly the same job seems more than long enough for me without some kind of change.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 8:29:01 GMT
I think there may well be something going on behind the scenes with Leslie - he's been quite outspoken about how the visible diversity of the current Broadway season could just as easily be a blip as a sea change, and about how it's not unreasonable to expect job offers galore after winning the Tony for Best Performance by a Leading Actor in a Musical which just hasn't happened for him. So I wouldn't be surprised if either he has had a tremendous job offer that he's not allowed to announce yet, or it's just not worth staying in the steady employment of Hamilton even with nothing else in the pipeline. But this is all supposition, and is informed by very little other than reading a few interviews and my own guesswork. (Also, from what I've heard about cast wages, I suspect it's very possible for a fiscally responsible person to take a good chunk of time off work post-Hamilton, even in an expensive city like Manhattan, so there don't necessarily have to be deeper reasons behind anything anyway!)
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 6, 2016 14:26:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 14:58:11 GMT
Brandon will be great. I don't know much about Lexi but she has a great voice from what I've seen on YouTube. How exciting to get new interpretations on these roles.
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Post by primitivewallflower on Jul 6, 2016 19:42:58 GMT
Brandon will be great. I don't know much about Lexi but she has a great voice from what I've seen on YouTube. How exciting to get new interpretations on these roles. I wasn't sure how I was going to feel about new cast members; now I find myself really excited to see how the roles flourish under different actors. Too bad I'm out of money... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 19:47:45 GMT
Brandon will be great. I don't know much about Lexi but she has a great voice from what I've seen on YouTube. How exciting to get new interpretations on these roles. I wasn't sure how I was going to feel about new cast members; now I find myself really excited to see how the roles flourish under different actors. Too bad I'm out of money... I agree, it's very bittersweet especially as Phillipa and Leslie (along with Daveed) are giving my favourite performances in the show. Not too upset about Lin as I'm inclined to believe the rumours he'll do it in London at some point. I really am interested on what quirks other actors will bring to these roles though, although unfortunately I'm in the same position as you where I can't afford to see it again on Broadway anytime soon (or afford to plan ahead as much as you have to now). Still, I'm so lucky to have seen the OBC twice and can't wait to see it in London. |
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Post by ali973 on Jul 6, 2016 20:10:20 GMT
They finally released the replacement cast:
Burr: Brandon Victor Dixon as Burr
Lexi Lawson as Eliza
Michael Luwoye as altenrate Hamilton
This finally ends weeks of speculation and stressful comments on BroadwayWorld! I have to say that the latest leaks did get it right. One person linked an Instagram account of a fan who took pictures with Lexi and was told by a stagehand that she's the "new Pippa" and someone else posted a message saying that the new Burr is not an understudy but currently on Broadway (Dixon is in Shuffle Along).
It's cool to know that they are already breaking the basic mold of the characters, whereby the alternate Hamilton is African American and not Latino like Lin and Javier.
I'm excited and I'm sure they'll be strong. This will be the cast I see in December.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 6, 2016 20:19:25 GMT
That's in the link I posted.  I saw Michael Luwoye in Invisible Thread off-Broadway, though I didn't recognize him right away as he didn't look like his headshot! That entire cast was incredible, especially him. I also saw Brandon Victor Dixon as Collins in the misguided off-Broadway Rent revival, and he was definitely a highlight. I found out later that it was his first performance and I'd had no idea -- he looked so comfortable! |
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Post by ali973 on Jul 6, 2016 20:22:25 GMT
Whoops! I haven't noticed! Now I can't wait to hear about who will head the Chicago company.
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Post by primitivewallflower on Jul 10, 2016 3:17:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 5:22:02 GMT
Clearer version of the bows:
& Lin has immediately cut his hair:
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 10, 2016 6:43:49 GMT
I wonder if he'll be auctioning off a bag of hair for BCEFA... |
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