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Post by danb on Jul 23, 2023 17:26:41 GMT
Yes, I totally realise that.
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Post by theatregoer22 on Jul 23, 2023 18:30:26 GMT
Given Newsies couldn't sell the Troubadour, the chances of it going into the Prince Edward are very slim. I think the issue with Newsies is more that people didn't want to go out to Wembley to see it. |
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Post by marob on Jul 23, 2023 18:47:12 GMT
Miss Saigon is on in Sheffield ‘by special arrangement’ with CM, could that go in there? His name’s already all over the programme but I’m sure he’d love to claim it properly as one of his successes.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 23, 2023 19:47:41 GMT
Let's stop speculating and just put Martin Guerre back in its spiritual home for a few months. :-)
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Post by A.Ham on Jul 23, 2023 20:16:31 GMT
Wasn’t The Cher Show looking for a home in the West End and teasing a run on their socials when the tour ended? I suspect the Prince Edward would be too big, but just a thought…
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Post by sallims on Jul 23, 2023 20:30:21 GMT
I would have said Dear England but Mr.Barnaby is probably right they haven’t had a play in there in my lifetime. Miss Saigon makes the most sense as most other non Mackintosh buildings probably wouldn’t touch it.
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Post by Rory on Jul 23, 2023 20:37:26 GMT
I would have said Dear England but Mr.Barnaby is probably right they haven’t had a play in there in my lifetime. Miss Saigon makes the most sense as most other non Mackintosh buildings probably wouldn’t touch it. The Windsors went to the Prince of Wales so why couldn't Dear England go in here? |
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Post by Rory on Jul 23, 2023 20:50:59 GMT
The Windsors went to the Prince of Wales so why couldn't Dear England go in here? I don’t disagree but the Prince Edward is a much bigger theatre and has not had a play in there for at least the last 45 years in my memory. I imagine Dear England might go to the lyric? With Miss Saigon going to the Prince Edward? I think Dear England is earmarked for the Gillian Lynne next year but it would be great if they could bag an immediate transfer this year and still do a further stint next year. Miss Saigon would be a good fit. |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Jul 23, 2023 20:58:02 GMT
I don’t disagree but the Prince Edward is a much bigger theatre and has not had a play in there for at least the last 45 years in my memory. I imagine Dear England might go to the lyric? With Miss Saigon going to the Prince Edward? I think Dear England is earmarked for the Gillian Lynne next year but it would be great if they could bag an immediate transfer this year and still do a further stint next year. Miss Saigon would be a good fit. Standing at Sky's Edge is going into Gillian Lynne after Crazy For You I mentioned this in the 'what's next' thread in general chat, but maybe Chichesters The Sound Of Music. It would be a solid crowd pleaser that is ready to go for a festive season. Maybe get a name for the Captain. |
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Post by sallims on Jul 23, 2023 20:58:57 GMT
I don’t disagree but the Prince Edward is a much bigger theatre and has not had a play in there for at least the last 45 years in my memory. I imagine Dear England might go to the lyric? With Miss Saigon going to the Prince Edward? I think Dear England is earmarked for the Gillian Lynne next year but it would be great if they could bag an immediate transfer this year and still do a further stint next year. Miss Saigon would be a good fit. Gillian Lynne seems like the Olivier go to transfer building. Interested to see what everyone is raving about with Dear England next week. Wasn’t a fan of Miss Saigon but can imagine it will be a good fit too. Shame about Ain’t Too Proud as I did enjoy it, but hopefully it will have a future life as a tour. |
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Post by Rory on Jul 23, 2023 21:20:12 GMT
I think Dear England is earmarked for the Gillian Lynne next year but it would be great if they could bag an immediate transfer this year and still do a further stint next year. Miss Saigon would be a good fit. Standing at Sky's Edge is going into Gillian Lynne after Crazy For You I mentioned this in the 'what's next' thread in general chat, but maybe Chichesters The Sound Of Music. It would be a solid crowd pleaser that is ready to go for a festive season. Maybe get a name for the Captain. Dear England after SATSE. |
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Post by Jon on Jul 23, 2023 21:30:53 GMT
I slightly regret mentioning Dear England as a home for the Prince Edward now!
Although it's true the PE has never had a play, it can't be ruled out and indeed we've seen plays in musical houses like One Man, Two Guvnors at the Adelphi, Cursed Child at the Palace. It's not likely I admit but it's not that farfetched as a suggestion.
Keep in mind, any show for the PE is only going to be on for 12-13 weeks since ATP was only planned until January, it'd be very difficult for something like The Sound of Music to be able to recoup in such a short period.
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Post by theatreian on Jul 23, 2023 21:34:25 GMT
Yes it would need to be something up and running as it's quite a tight timescale and obviously limited time. Not sure if anything festive would stand a chance?
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Post by sjb on Jul 23, 2023 21:38:43 GMT
Sad to see that this is closing - going to try my best to catch this in Aug/Sept if I can. Prince Edward is a tough space to fill - will be interested to see what ends up going here next.
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Post by andypandy on Jul 24, 2023 6:11:35 GMT
Sad to see that this is closing - going to try my best to catch this in Aug/Sept if I can. Prince Edward is a tough space to fill - will be interested to see what ends up going here next. I personally wish Moulin Rouge had always gone to the PE. The theatre isn’t hard to fill, it’s finding a decent enough quality crowd pleasing show EVERYONE wants to see. Lion King, Hamilton etc People are over jukebox musicals, rags to riches American singer/band stories on stage and sadly Ain’t Too Proud just seems like another Jersey Boys meets Drifter Girl meets Beautiful meets Tina - we’ve seen it all before. Put Lady Gaga or Madonna in a musical in the PE and it would sell out. |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Jul 24, 2023 7:02:39 GMT
Sad to see that this is closing - going to try my best to catch this in Aug/Sept if I can. Prince Edward is a tough space to fill - will be interested to see what ends up going here next. I don't think it's tough to fill, it's had plenty of big hit shows and rarely has a flop. I think it was just a poor choice or show for the UK. |
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Post by A.Ham on Jul 24, 2023 7:12:30 GMT
Sad to see that this is closing - going to try my best to catch this in Aug/Sept if I can. Prince Edward is a tough space to fill - will be interested to see what ends up going here next. I don't think it's tough to fill, it's had plenty of big hit shows and rarely has a flop. I think it was just a poor choice or show for the UK. Yes, I know it’s mostly down to which venues are available, but perhaps it would have fared better in a smaller house. |
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Post by danb on Jul 24, 2023 7:43:48 GMT
I know that in the past we’ve discussed the Adelphi being a producers perfect theatre due to size & location. That 1500 capacity across only 3 levels delivers financial heft at the weekend and allows for closing a level on down days. I think ALW’s plan for Drury Lane is to be able to drop its capacity without damaging what makes it Drury Lane, to attract more ‘transient/6 month to a year’ pieces from the get go. Its miraculous that ‘Frozen’ is still in, given the amount of discounting and balcony closing, but I suspect its’ plan was to recoup in the first year and anything else was a bonus.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 24, 2023 18:22:22 GMT
Sad to see that this is closing - going to try my best to catch this in Aug/Sept if I can. Prince Edward is a tough space to fill - will be interested to see what ends up going here next. I don't think it's tough to fill, it's had plenty of big hit shows and rarely has a flop. I think it was just a poor choice or show for the UK. Well it’s tough to fill if the show has no appeal |
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Post by danb on Jul 24, 2023 19:17:18 GMT
I don't think it's tough to fill, it's had plenty of big hit shows and rarely has a flop. I think it was just a poor choice or show for the UK. Well it’s tough to fill if the show has no appeal It was certainly a surprise when they announced it, and where it was going. Like putting an end of the pier revue into Drury Lane. The PE has always had at least ‘exciting’ shows in even if not to my taste, and the best frontage & that big billboard (LED now) on the side. The surprise is that such a dull jukebox like ‘Ain’t Too Proud’ has done so well on Broadway rather than why its failed here. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 25, 2023 6:49:54 GMT
It was always only a filler until MJ opened there.
I’d assume the planned tour is now off as a result.
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Post by max on Jul 25, 2023 8:28:16 GMT
Well it’s tough to fill if the show has no appeal It was certainly a surprise when they announced it, and where it was going. Like putting an end of the pier revue into Drury Lane. The PE has always had at least ‘exciting’ shows in even if not to my taste, and the best frontage & that big billboard (LED now) on the side. The surprise is that such a dull jukebox like ‘Ain’t Too Proud’ has done so well on Broadway rather than why its failed here. The first ever Broadway show I saw exported to the West End in the same production was 'Smokey Joe's Cafe'. Jaw on the floor as I watched what felt like a fairly basic ITV Saturday night shiny floor show. So disappointed and wondering why it was thought of as anything much on Broadway. That would have been 1996 - 98. "Revue format with no unifying theme" Wikipedia reminds me - too right. Only good thing is an understudying was on - Alison Jiear, who sang brilliantly; good to discover her long before 'Jerry Springer The Opera'. |
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Post by danb on Jul 25, 2023 8:45:17 GMT
The POW was a revolving door of rubbish back then wasn’t it? Didn’t really get a long runner til ‘Mamma Mia’ moved there to make way for ‘Poppins’? Personally I though ‘Tommy Steele - What A Show’ to be it’s low point
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Post by max on Jul 25, 2023 10:38:37 GMT
I guess I've taken us off-topic, but also re. the POW 'Fosse' really wasn't great. Amazing though he is, if you put his routines end-to-end it's 'enough' after 15 mins. They're designed to be the spice, not the meal. An indulgent misapplication of his material.
Anyway, I guess I should get us back on topic: 'Aint too Proud' just doesn't have quite the catalogue of hits that 'Jersey Boys' did, and there were a number of other groups with a similar sound and style, and dance moves: The Four Tops, The Drifters etc. Surprised Des McAnuff went there again. I loved his work on 'The Who's TOMMY' but couldn't get excited about what he did on 'Jersey Boys' (the LCD screen! or whatever tech it was, totally ahistorical and the wrong look), so skipped 'Aint Too Proud'.
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Post by danb on Jul 25, 2023 11:09:10 GMT
There are so many ‘Motown’ style catalogue shows touring local theatres that I just can’t see this motivating Beryl & Doreen to get on a coach, when they saw something that sounds identical only the other week. I think they need to start the MJ promo now as-well, pointing out its’ USP and that its not just Thriller or that Ben guy that tours curtained off arenas.
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