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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 4, 2022 17:22:30 GMT
 Spring 2023 apparently. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 4, 2022 17:36:26 GMT
Why?  ? Wasn't Thriller enough??? |
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Post by Jon on Jun 4, 2022 17:39:11 GMT
MJ is doing well on Broadway and unlike Thriller, actually has a plot and decent creatives behind it.
Theatre wise, I think either the Prince Edward or the Shaftesbury.
I do wonder if Thriller having run so long will affect MJ in London, if I were the producers, I'd be making sure that people know it's an entirely new show and nothing to do with Thriller.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 4, 2022 17:51:50 GMT
It might do better if it had nothing to do with Michael Jackson either. Sorry MJ fans but I think this is highly questionable given the obvious circumstances. If this show doesn’t at least make reference to the problematic areas of his personal life then it’s worthless as far as I’m concerned.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 4, 2022 17:57:10 GMT
It might do better if it had nothing to do with Michael Jackson either. Sorry MJ fans but I think this is highly questionable given the obvious circumstances. If this show doesn’t at least make reference to the problematic areas of his personal life then it’s worthless as far as I’m concerned. It doesn't. It is all set in the period before it blew up I believe. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 4, 2022 18:02:47 GMT
I am just rather fed up with the seemingly neverending round of biographical jukebox shows.
I know they are safer bets for producers. But wouldn't it be great to have something new, original and fresh?
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Post by Jon on Jun 4, 2022 18:06:01 GMT
I am just rather fed up with the seemingly neverending round of biographical jukebox shows. I know they are safer bets for producers. But wouldn't it be great to have something new, original and fresh Dear Evan Hansen is closing in October so clearly audiences don't want new, original and fresh. Truthfully, theatre owners want shows that are successful and MJ on Broadway is doing well so it's a no brainer to transfer it to London. |
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Post by Mark on Jun 4, 2022 18:06:34 GMT
It might do better if it had nothing to do with Michael Jackson either. Sorry MJ fans but I think this is highly questionable given the obvious circumstances. If this show doesn’t at least make reference to the problematic areas of his personal life then it’s worthless as far as I’m concerned. It doesn't. It is all set in the period before it blew up I believe. There is a mention of "allegations" but that is as far as it goes. I hadn't seen Thriller but saw this and enjoyed it for the music and the dancing in particular. I wouldn't call myself a fan of Michael Jackson and/or his music, but I could certainly appreciate the songs and choreography (and performances) here. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 4, 2022 18:18:40 GMT
I am just rather fed up with the seemingly neverending round of biographical jukebox shows. I know they are safer bets for producers. But wouldn't it be great to have something new, original and fresh Dear Evan Hansen in closing in October so clearly audiences don't want new, original and fresh. Truthfully, theatre owners want shows that are successful and MJ on Broadway is doing well so it's a no brainer to transfer it to London. I get the thinking. I just don't think it is good for the future of musical theatre. DEH was not that fresh by the time it got here and, once the die hard fans had seen it, perhaps there wasn't enough audience to sustain it. Maybe the film version didn't help either. Cinderella was new but not good enough. But where is the next Come From Away? That unexpected story which captures the attention an audience. Where is the next great British musical that becomes beloved for generations to come. I know this is all a business. But surely there has to be a saturation point for this sort of piece. |
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Post by Jon on Jun 4, 2022 18:23:34 GMT
I get the thinking. I just don't think it is good for the future of musical theatre. DEH was not that fresh by the time it got here and, once the die hard fans had seen it, perhaps there wasn't enough audience to sustain it. Maybe the film version didn't help either. Cinderella was new but not good enough. But where is the next Come From Away? That unexpected story which captures the attention an audience. Where is the next great British musical that becomes beloved for generations to come. I know this is all a business. But surely there has to be a saturation point for this sort of piece. Shows like Hamilton, Come from Away etc only come every so often, it's a bit unrealistic to expect them to appear every year given how long it takes to develop a musical. Much like the film and TV industry, producers need to rely on either star power or adapting existing material whether it be a film, a book or a singer/group. |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 4, 2022 18:29:49 GMT
Dear Evan Hansen in closing in October so clearly audiences don't want new, original and fresh. Truthfully, theatre owners want shows that are successful and MJ on Broadway is doing well so it's a no brainer to transfer it to London. I get the thinking. I just don't think it is good for the future of musical theatre. DEH was not that fresh by the time it got here and, once the die hard fans had seen it, perhaps there wasn't enough audience to sustain it. Maybe the film version didn't help either. Cinderella was new but not good enough. But where is the next Come From Away? That unexpected story which captures the attention an audience. Where is the next great British musical that becomes beloved for generations to come. I know this is all a business. But surely there has to be a saturation point for this sort of piece. Apart from Comet (probably not the best time for a Russian musical) and Bands Visit (which is on the way) we have had all the big musicals worth seeing from the States in the last 5 years already. Hadestown never returned, Evan is closing, Come From Away (which is fantastic) has done ok over here but never really exploded in popularity like it did on Broadway, so it's not surprising they are relying on well known entities. Suffs and Strange Loop both look amazing this season, but I doubt we'll get those for quite some time and I don't know if I'd want tp see either of them without their amazing US casts anyways. |
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Post by Mark on Jun 4, 2022 18:35:35 GMT
Apart from Comet (probably not the best time for a Russian musical) and Bands Visit (which is on the way) we have had all the big musicals worth seeing from the States in the last 5 years already. Hadestown never returned, Evan is closing, Come From Away (which is fantastic) has done ok over here but never really exploded in popularity like it did on Broadway, so it's not surprising they are relying on well known entities. Suffs and Strange Loop both look amazing this season, but I doubt we'll get those for quite some time and I don't know if I'd want tp see either of them without their amazing US casts anyways. Suffs and Strange Loop were brilliant indeed. Strange Loop in London though... gosh, I can't even imagine what the reaction would be to that here. I'm very excited for Kimberly Akimbo which has great notices. Just because a show was a commercial success in New York though doesn't mean a transfer. Where the devil is Mean Girls. |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 4, 2022 18:43:58 GMT
Apart from Comet (probably not the best time for a Russian musical) and Bands Visit (which is on the way) we have had all the big musicals worth seeing from the States in the last 5 years already. Hadestown never returned, Evan is closing, Come From Away (which is fantastic) has done ok over here but never really exploded in popularity like it did on Broadway, so it's not surprising they are relying on well known entities. Suffs and Strange Loop both look amazing this season, but I doubt we'll get those for quite some time and I don't know if I'd want tp see either of them without their amazing US casts anyways. Suffs and Strange Loop were brilliant indeed. Strange Loop in London though... gosh, I can't even imagine what the reaction would be to that here. I'm very excited for Kimberly Akimbo which has great notices. Just because a show was a commercial success in New York though doesn't mean a transfer. Where the devil is Mean Girls. I said worth seeing LOL Mean Girls was ok, but I certainly don't need to see it again. It 'just' recouped before it closed did it not? Comet lost 14 million, Loop will not recoup and will surely close unless it wins the Tony and Suffs was off Broadway was it not? I was talking more good shows than financially successful ones. |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jun 4, 2022 18:47:02 GMT
Apart from Comet (probably not the best time for a Russian musical) and Bands Visit (which is on the way) we have had all the big musicals worth seeing from the States in the last 5 years already. Hadestown never returned, Evan is closing, Come From Away (which is fantastic) has done ok over here but never really exploded in popularity like it did on Broadway, so it's not surprising they are relying on well known entities. Suffs and Strange Loop both look amazing this season, but I doubt we'll get those for quite some time and I don't know if I'd want tp see either of them without their amazing US casts anyways. Suffs and Strange Loop were brilliant indeed. Strange Loop in London though... gosh, I can't even imagine what the reaction would be to that here. oh you only need to look at the Legally Blonde thread to see how it would go |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 4, 2022 18:50:04 GMT
Suffs and Strange Loop were brilliant indeed. Strange Loop in London though... gosh, I can't even imagine what the reaction would be to that here. oh you only need to look at the Legally Blonde thread to see how it would go Or the Fairview thread  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2022 19:43:18 GMT
Suffs and Strange Loop were brilliant indeed. Strange Loop in London though... gosh, I can't even imagine what the reaction would be to that here. oh you only need to look at the Legally Blonde thread to see how it would go I’d love to see Strange Loop and Fat Ham. Criticism of Legally Blonde has no bearing on other shows, you’re showing your bias. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 4, 2022 19:47:08 GMT
Spring 2023 apparently. Wrong. Beginning of 2024. At a right royal theatre. |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 4, 2022 19:53:29 GMT
Spring 2023 apparently. Wrong. Beginning of 2024. At a right royal theatre. Any news on Great Comet yet...or is that just a pipe dream still? |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 4, 2022 19:58:52 GMT
Wrong. Beginning of 2024. At a right royal theatre. Any news on Great Comet yet...or is that just a pipe dream still? Great Comet ain’t happening, soz. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 4, 2022 19:59:09 GMT
Wrong. Beginning of 2024. At a right royal theatre. thanks Mr B. Loving your predictions! ❤️ |
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 4, 2022 20:02:20 GMT
Any news on Great Comet yet...or is that just a pipe dream still? Great Comet ain’t happening, soz. Oh well...Austria it is...thanks x |
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Post by Jon on Jun 4, 2022 20:03:05 GMT
Right royal theatre... doesn't really narrow it down.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jun 4, 2022 20:08:42 GMT
Right royal theatre... doesn't really narrow it down. Think about it. |
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Post by Mark on Jun 4, 2022 20:13:36 GMT
Right royal theatre... doesn't really narrow it down. Think about it. Theatre Royal Drury Lane, currently home to Queen Elsa. Or am I clutching at straws there |
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Post by viserys on Jun 4, 2022 20:13:40 GMT
DEH was not that fresh by the time it got here and, once the die hard fans had seen it, perhaps there wasn't enough audience to sustain it. Maybe the film version didn't help either. Cinderella was new but not good enough. But where is the next Come From Away? That unexpected story which captures the attention an audience. Just putting these together should be the answer: Come From Away is life-affirming, heart-warming and a show that everyone feels a connection to, because who could ever forget 9/11 and what they were doing that day? DEH is a show about a tedious liar and a heap of teen anxieties that not many adults (the majority of ticket buyers) can identify with. And Cinderella was indeed just not good enough. These lists are forgetting Beetlejuice which had just found its mojo on Broadway before it was ousted and is a very entertaining fun show which I believe is what people need and want right now. And while Hadestown isn't exactly uplifting, it's a very clever smart "grown-up" show with a soundtrack to die for. It MUST come back. And we're still waiting for Groundhog Day too... |
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