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Post by partytentdown on Sept 24, 2021 7:33:55 GMT
I imagine the recent discussions around Alice Ripley have left a sour taste around the original production so they might be up for someone reimagining the whole thing
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 24, 2021 8:21:19 GMT
I think Jenna R is an incredibly brilliant actress, but why is everyone rushing to cast her in roles that she simply cannot sing. It’s a pretty damning indication of how few leading ladies we have. Or ones that are given the chance to rise up to leading roles.
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Post by danb on Sept 24, 2021 8:40:14 GMT
I think Jenna R is an incredibly brilliant actress, but why is everyone rushing to cast her in roles that she simply cannot sing. It’s a pretty damning indication of how few leading ladies we have. Or ones that are given the chance to rise up to leading roles. Totally this! Hannah W, SAT or Alison Jiear perhaps. They should share it to save their collective fab voices. Getting too hung up on age could prove to be reductive. |
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Post by inthenose on Sept 24, 2021 15:08:40 GMT
I think Jenna R is an incredibly brilliant actress, but why is everyone rushing to cast her in roles that she simply cannot sing. It’s a pretty damning indication of how few leading ladies we have. Or ones that are given the chance to rise up to leading roles. I personally think she could sing this beautifully. It would certainly be a different style to Alice Ripley though. And, as you say, she would act the heck out of it |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 18:23:02 GMT
I think Jenna R is an incredibly brilliant actress, but why is everyone rushing to cast her in roles that she simply cannot sing. It’s a pretty damning indication of how few leading ladies we have. Or ones that are given the chance to rise up to leading roles. You're not interested in giving a chance to people to rise up leading roles. You're not bothered by how few leading ladies WE have either. That was the clear from the Moulin Rouge casting thread. Those issues weren't a problem for you there. Why the double standards? |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 24, 2021 18:28:43 GMT
I think Jenna R is an incredibly brilliant actress, but why is everyone rushing to cast her in roles that she simply cannot sing. It’s a pretty damning indication of how few leading ladies we have. Or ones that are given the chance to rise up to leading roles. You're not interested in giving a chance to people to rise up leading roles. You're not bothered by how few leading ladies WE have either. That was the clear from the Moulin Rouge casting thread. Those issues weren't a problem for you there. Why the double standards? Oh shhhh now. I don’t think Liisi LF is very good, based on her not being any good in Dreamgirls (in my opinion). So your judgement is pretty wrong on my comment about seeing GOOD people get bigger roles. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 18:50:18 GMT
I dont recall 'Good people' being part of the conversation. Your hypocrisy has been noted  I think Jenna Russell could sing it and do it very well, but it's not exciting casting. Given how Marin Mazzie took over on Broadway, it can be played with different styles of voices, so lets have someone exciting. |
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Post by Being Alive on Sept 24, 2021 19:33:00 GMT
I have to agree with others and think that Jenna would act her face off but would struggle vocally with it. I saw her concert last December and whilst it was great to hear her sing her greatest hits, the top end of her voice was in...super shape
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 24, 2021 19:42:23 GMT
I would have thought the Young Vic would be great for this.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 24, 2021 19:53:36 GMT
I dont recall 'Good people' being part of the conversation. Your hypocrisy has been noted I think Jenna Russell could sing it and do it very well, but it's not exciting casting. Given how Marin Mazzie took over on Broadway, it can be played with different styles of voices, so lets have someone exciting. You not understanding what I said and meant is no concern to me. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 24, 2021 19:54:18 GMT
I would have thought the Young Vic would be great for this. Very much agree , or it could work in a smaller space like the Donmar or Almeida I’m sure |
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Post by inthenose on Sept 24, 2021 20:07:03 GMT
I'm getting vibes this might be going somewhere a little bigger, but could be wrong. Long way off anyway, these things always take ages
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Post by danielwhit on Sept 24, 2021 22:02:03 GMT
I imagine the recent discussions around Alice Ripley have left a sour taste around the original production so they might be up for someone reimagining the whole thing I've no idea what this refers to - can you enlighten me please? |
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Sept 24, 2021 22:24:22 GMT
I imagine the recent discussions around Alice Ripley have left a sour taste around the original production so they might be up for someone reimagining the whole thing I've no idea what this refers to - can you enlighten me please? Without getting too deep into it, a lot of young women have come out about inappropriate relationships they had with Ripley as children during the show's run. There wasn't anything sexual about them (except for seemingly one minor instance where they had a conversation about a picture of Ripley in lingerie), it was all just very personal and intense relationships with children where she would invite them to her dressing room alone or have dinner with them. She'd form these close bonds but then drop them later on. She obviously had quite a profound affect on these already vulnerable children (they seemingly all connected with Alice due to her playing a character dealing with mental health issues) and then didn't handle the situation well by any stretch of the imagination. Nothing illegal but definitely inappropriate. |
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Post by inthenose on Sept 24, 2021 23:07:15 GMT
I've no idea what this refers to - can you enlighten me please? Without getting too deep into it, a lot of young women have come out about inappropriate relationships they had with Ripley as children during the show's run. There wasn't anything sexual about them (except for seemingly one minor instance where they had a conversation about a picture of Ripley in lingerie), it was all just very personal and intense relationships with children where she would invite them to her dressing room alone or have dinner with them. She'd form these close bonds but then drop them later on. She obviously had quite a profound affect on these already vulnerable children (they seemingly all connected with Alice due to her playing a character dealing with mental health issues) and then didn't handle the situation well by any stretch of the imagination. Nothing illegal but definitely inappropriate. I did wonder if this subject would be breached on here. Here are some news reports covering the subject in more detail, with interviews from people involved discussing their alleged experiences and a denial of guilt from Alice Ripley: bit.ly/3CJ6jib (The Independent) bit.ly/2W913oo (Metro) bit.ly/3AGurBw (Rolling Stone) |
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Post by shady23 on Sept 24, 2021 23:26:44 GMT
I personally found it pretty distasteful for some big broadway names to come out and say they didn't know her but she was innocent. Adam Pascal did a particularly triggering post, which I think he later deleted.
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Post by apubleed on Sept 25, 2021 9:01:45 GMT
I don't understand why Alice Ripley would have anything to do with whether Michael Grief could mount the original production in London. She wouldn't/couldn't star in it and really has nothing to do with it anymore? Open to new interpretations (I mean there have been so many productions worldwide) but it would be nice for London to see 'the brilliant original'. It's not just the physical production but Greif's directing in particular with the actors that was outstanding (in fact the physical production was probably secondary to the acting direction). I'd love to see what Michael might do with some local talent.
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Post by inthenose on Oct 5, 2021 21:44:50 GMT
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Post by gmoneyoutlaw on Oct 6, 2021 1:10:39 GMT
Will this production be in English? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 5:18:01 GMT
Will this production be in English? Yes. The Spanish article on Broadway World Spain says the production will be in English. I saw the Spanish version, Casi Normales, in Madrid in 2017 and thought it was brilliant. The producer who devised this new idea is Pablo del Campo, who produced that Spanish version, so I'll be interested to see this in Barcelona. |
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Post by inthenose on Mar 16, 2022 6:20:01 GMT
The arrogance!
I love this show, but they are acting like an out of town tryout is a huge insult. This show was workshopped, ran off-broadway to get it right and now they expect it to do "2 years minimum" at 700 a night.
The director and US producers of this show have very strange ideas and expectations.
This potential production is now dead in its current form.
Unless a strong and well funded regional venue and leader like Nikolai's boss can pick it up, I think this show is done, sadly. They want guarantees of a West End run to follow.
So sad. This show could've added so much to town.
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Post by inthenose on Mar 16, 2022 6:28:04 GMT
Additional: they still won't release the amateur rights. Pathetic.
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Post by Paul on Mar 16, 2022 10:59:49 GMT
Joanna Riding would make an amazing Diana.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2022 20:53:00 GMT
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Post by inthenose on Mar 31, 2022 21:08:59 GMT
This sounds truly surreal. I am expecting a big projected Adam Pascal head on a screen.
A bit like when Homer goes for re-Neducation in one of the Treehouse of Horror episodes.
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