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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 31, 2021 22:09:56 GMT
Could this ever be revived? Or is it too male and too heteronormative to ever see the light of day again?
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Post by Seriously on Jan 31, 2021 22:20:26 GMT
So do we stop doing all plays and musicals that don't have a gay relationship in?
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Post by marob on Jan 31, 2021 22:35:51 GMT
It’s had a couple of revivals fairly recently though. It had a 2013-14 tour and a separate production a couple of years later in Regent’s Park. I think if modern audiences were to have a problem with this show it might be more to do with the “let’s kidnap some women and make them fall in love with us and do all our chores” plot rather than a lack of any inclusion.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 31, 2021 23:55:51 GMT
It has been out on tour in the past decade and it is creaky at best. There are a couple of decent tunes and some good dance opportunities. But the plot is just not workable.
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Post by musicalmarge on Feb 1, 2021 0:56:01 GMT
Could it be done in today’s woke monster mindset? I doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 11:13:40 GMT
Could it be done in today’s woke monster mindset? I doubt it. By 'woke' you mean inclusive I presume? |
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Post by partytentdown on Feb 1, 2021 13:27:07 GMT
This repeated use of 'woke' is tiresome.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 1, 2021 13:47:50 GMT
I enjoyed this a few year back at the Open Air. I remember it was light and humourous - who knew Stockholm syndrome the musical could do this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 13:53:41 GMT
This repeated use of 'woke' is tiresome. And ignorant! |
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Post by musicalmarge on Feb 1, 2021 13:58:16 GMT
This repeated use of 'woke' is tiresome. Many of us totally agree! But with the current zeitgeist to put a warning before Disney films and the current narrative is to rewrite history and frown on anything that is not inclusive, seemingly misogynistic and a quest to include only left wing mantra into current shows - this causes great issues with old classic musicals. Sometimes this is a wonderful thing BTW, sometimes not. When it comes to producing old classics - this does not fall into the cultural mindset of many creatives today. Unless they can readapt them - these shows will be seen in a negative light sadly. I sadly see a day when The King and I, Kiss me Kate and others will no longer be performed. |
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Post by sprampster on Feb 1, 2021 13:59:40 GMT
Saw it at Regents Park and really enjoyed it from what I remember.
And for anyone who is bovvered....
Woke
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For a definition of the word "woke", see the Wiktionary entry woke.
A protest in St. Paul against police brutality by Black Lives Matter supporters which popularized the widespread use of the word woke
Woke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is a term that originated in the United States, referring to a perceived awareness of issues that concern social justice and racial justice.[1] It derives from the African-American Vernacular English expression stay woke, whose grammatical aspect refers to a continuing awareness of these issues.
First used in the 1940s, the term has resurfaced in recent years as a concept that symbolizes perceived awareness of social issues and movement. By the late 2010s, woke had been adopted as a more generic slang term associated with left-wing politics, progressive or socially liberal causes such as anti-racism, LGBT rights, feminism and environmentalism. It has also been the subject of memes, ironic usage and criticism for its methods and consequences.[2][3] Its widespread use since 2014 is a result of the Black Lives Matter movement.[1]
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Post by musicalmarge on Feb 1, 2021 14:04:28 GMT
Saw it at Regents Park and really enjoyed it from what I remember. And for anyone who is bovvered.... Woke From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search For other uses, see Woke (disambiguation). "Stay woke" redirects here. For the documentary, see Stay Woke: The Black Lives Matter Movement. For a definition of the word "woke", see the Wiktionary entry woke. A protest in St. Paul against police brutality by Black Lives Matter supporters which popularized the widespread use of the word woke Woke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is a term that originated in the United States, referring to a perceived awareness of issues that concern social justice and racial justice.[1] It derives from the African-American Vernacular English expression stay woke, whose grammatical aspect refers to a continuing awareness of these issues. First used in the 1940s, the term has resurfaced in recent years as a concept that symbolizes perceived awareness of social issues and movement. By the late 2010s, woke had been adopted as a more generic slang term associated with left-wing politics, progressive or socially liberal causes such as anti-racism, LGBT rights, feminism and environmentalism. It has also been the subject of memes, ironic usage and criticism for its methods and consequences.[2][3] Its widespread use since 2014 is a result of the Black Lives Matter movement.[1] Woke was used by the mainstream media far before BLM. Mainly not to do with racism but politically correct culture gone mad such as naming snowmen snow-people etc. It is not a racial narrative but about the modern day changing (pros/cons/common sense) v social justice of many areas of society. Some of course like racism/homophobia should be challenged - some are simply ridiculous. Back to Seven Brides / I hope it is produced again in all its glory or readapted for a modern day audience! |
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Post by ceebee on Feb 1, 2021 14:49:36 GMT
This is easily resolved. "Seven Inclusive Brides (they/them) for Seven Woke Blokes (he/she/maybe)."
Fixed.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Feb 1, 2021 15:33:46 GMT
The anti-pc crowd really only have the one joke, don't they?
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Post by Seriously on Feb 1, 2021 16:45:53 GMT
Could it be done in today’s woke monster mindset? I doubt it. By 'woke' you mean inclusive I presume? Given musicalmarge's previous racist posts which the mods removed, I think we can presume "inclusive". |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 1, 2021 18:28:10 GMT
No idea why anyone would want to revive this anyway.
It exists on film for those that like it, but thankfully the world has moved on and I just don’t think this show is acceptable as it is to modern audiences.
Also, it’s a really bad musical.
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Post by geraldine64 on Feb 1, 2021 19:01:30 GMT
It's so interesting to read this discussion - so many of the classic musicals are now horribly problematic. I'm fascinated to see what the Open Air Theatre will do with 'Carousel' this summer, fingers crossed it goes ahead.
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Post by anthony40 on Feb 1, 2021 20:33:40 GMT
IF you go to any generic film museum or exhibition, you will fond on a TV screen somewhere that barn raising sequence.
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Post by Sam on Feb 4, 2021 11:24:41 GMT
On a related note, we've been sorting out our loft including our theatre programmes and we have two spare for the Regent's Park production if anyone would like them. Would just need to cover postage. For what it's worth we all enjoyed the production and felt it really suited the setting. ** Sam advises that the programmes have now gone. Burly. |
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