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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 10:54:54 GMT
Some of the very best shows I've seen have been thanks to discounts and papering. It should not be used as an indicator of quality, only ever an indicator of not selling very well. Bend it bend it |
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Post by bellboard27 on Jul 5, 2016 11:14:56 GMT
Some of the very best shows I've seen have been thanks to discounts and papering. It should not be used as an indicator of quality, only ever an indicator of not selling very well. Bend it bend it Parsley, I keep following your advice to bend it. Now it's getting sore. I think I will have to stop. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 20:48:05 GMT
What time was the interval for this? Just saw Cuttin It Upstairs and that finished at 9.05pm and Downstairs was still on its interval. I thought it only lasts 2 hrs? That makes the second half the most 25 mins!!!
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Post by lou105 on Jul 5, 2016 21:53:33 GMT
What time was the interval for this? Just saw Cuttin It Upstairs and that finished at 9.05pm and Downstairs was still on its interval. I thought it only lasts 2 hrs? That makes the second half the most 25 mins!!! They were saying two and a half hours including interval on the way in tonight. The interval was about 8.55. |
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Post by nash16 on Jul 5, 2016 23:47:24 GMT
We got told 3hrs including interval last night. It ran at 2hrs 45mins. They need to change their website.
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Post by foxa on Jul 6, 2016 8:15:40 GMT
Is it any better? I'm meant to be going on Saturday. Husband is already refusing to go based on reports....is it worth my trying to rope in someone else?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 8:18:12 GMT
I thought shows sped up during previews not added another hour!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 8:41:17 GMT
Considering how the show has been - and, indeed, is being - written, I'm surprised they're willing to state any sort of estimated running time right now. I can't imagine they'll update the website until they've settled on the finished product!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 8:42:33 GMT
Well, rather like Julie Jordan in 'Carousel' this is a queer one. I must say I really did enjoy it for the most part and some parts are very funny but it's an odd one. On the one hand, Matt Smith is very good as the neurotic director, Richard Pyros is absolutely glorious as the DP (overall the best performance/character in the whole thing for me) and Jonjo O'Neill just completely steals the whole thing right in front of everyone's eyes and he knows it. On the other hand, Amanda Drew (as the producer) and Tamara Lawrance (as the lead actress in the film) were rather weak in my view and seem like they really need a lot more time to settle - lots of very flat delivery. Some great parts that really made me laugh (mainly from Pyros and O'Neill) and I didn't even mind them referring to the script at times (a very smiley Vicky Featherstone and Anthony Neilson came on at the beginning and told us that he had given them lots of new material to learn the day before) but they seemed to do it a lot more (particularly Smith, Drew and Lawrance) in the second act (Drew especially read from the script massively throughout the whole play). The ending is really rather lovely to look at and . . . {Spoiler - click to view}
. . there's even a cute little fox! My main problem with the whole thing though is that for the majority of the play . . {Spoiler - click to view}
. . I thought it was really funny and well played and then the characters turn on the DP and I ended up really disliking them (mainly because he was so likeably played by Pyros) and lost my interest in the remainder of the play and didn't care what happened to them. Shame really. |
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Post by lou105 on Jul 6, 2016 8:43:40 GMT
It's still very much a work in progress, and they are still asking the audience to bear with the actors who are dealing with rewrites. The audience last night seemed to take all that in good part, enthusiastically shouting Good Luck on request, and Matt Smith was good at mugging to the crowd when it got messy. There were some ecstatic reactions, and also some empty seats after the interval, though not many. The big question, of course, is how the final version is received when you take away the fun element of being somehow in the "in crowd", watching something being developed..I agree with a lot of chameleon's comments above. Some of it was very funny, some of it made me cringe and whilst the end was visually memorable, I'm not at all sure what I brought away from it.
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Post by chameleon on Jul 6, 2016 9:13:02 GMT
Yes.. the end. It was pretty. Maybe,, though, they ended up spending a lot of money on something that didn't fit so well with the play they've come up with (so far, at least) - but given how much they've spent, they feel obliged to use it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 9:16:58 GMT
I do wonder whether the set will change as the play develops or whether they'll keep the current "rehearsal room" vibe . . .
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Post by lou105 on Jul 6, 2016 9:21:46 GMT
Yes.. the end. It was pretty. Maybe,, though, they ended up spending a lot of money on something that didn't fit so well with the play they've come up with (so far, at least) - but given how much they've spent, they feel obliged to use it? Yes..the ending was what the trailer and the website images seemed to point to, but the rest of it was something else. And as you said, Jonjo was something else again! |
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Post by nash16 on Jul 6, 2016 11:38:53 GMT
Whereas the ending in WILD at the Hampstead seemed to be added to save a bad play, the ending here seemed to be in place from the start, but I'm not sure the play they've devised has given sufficient justification for its appearance. It, of course, comes from Matt Smith's character's desire for perfect light, but as it stands at the moment seems to come from nowhere, do it's thing, but in a sort of vacuum belonging to another play, and then blackout. It's not really in keeping with the rest of the "rough theatre" aesthetic of the rest of the production either.
Jerusalem probably still wins for the subtle action of those trees suddenly waving and shaking as summoned by Rooster. Action from text.
Unreachable's ending is action from design, rather than naturally coming from what has gone before.
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Post by foxa on Jul 6, 2016 13:21:57 GMT
I was going to go this Saturday but have changed my tickets (for a £2 fee) for 22nd July with the hope that it's more together by then. Means I sacrificed Row B stalls for Row A Circle in the swap, but there you go - we'll see. And it will give me more time to rope in some indulgent friend to accompany me, given SO's refusal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 13:34:17 GMT
I was going to go this Saturday but have changed my tickets (for a £2 fee) for 22nd July with the hope that it's more together by then. Means I sacrificed Row B stalls for Row A Circle in the swap, but there you go - we'll see. And it will give me more time to rope in some indulgent friend to accompany me, given SO's refusal. And you can attend the press night of Pigs and Dogs beforehand! |
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Post by foxa on Jul 6, 2016 13:42:59 GMT
I was going to go this Saturday but have changed my tickets (for a £2 fee) for 22nd July with the hope that it's more together by then. Means I sacrificed Row B stalls for Row A Circle in the swap, but there you go - we'll see. And it will give me more time to rope in some indulgent friend to accompany me, given SO's refusal. And you can attend the press night of Pigs and Dogs beforehand! ;-) Seriously, do you think that would be a good idea (it is only 10 minutes long) or would this lose me even more friends if I dragged someone to that? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 13:44:14 GMT
You could do Pigs & Dogs alone, have a quick drink in the bar with your friend, then straight back in for Unreachable?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 13:55:24 GMT
Could you arrange to meet your friends just before 7.00 in the bar? If you're travelling together, it might be more awkward for you to see it without them. Seating for Pigs and Dogs is unreserved, which will make it easier for friends to decide individually and not have to book at the same time. Although as it's the press performance, I expect that a large area of the seating will be reserved for critics and other guests at this particular performance. I'm really looking forward to it. As it's based on material in a non-fiction book and only has three actors and only runs for approx ten minutes, I'm expecting a short intense scene, or fragments of short intense scenes. Actually, if your friends are game for two to three hours of Anthony Neilson, they can't be too phased by Caryl Churchill.
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Post by foxa on Jul 6, 2016 14:11:43 GMT
Thank you both - that's a great thing about this forum as you all understand these dilemmas.
(I did think, at first, Baemax, that you were going to suggest we JUST see Pigs & Dogs, have a drink and then scrammed out of there. There is something to be said for very short theatre.)
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Post by littlesally on Jul 7, 2016 8:32:09 GMT
This is an odd one. Hasn't quite found its tone. Pace still little uneven. But the script and all the performances are superb. No sidelining for MS last night. He is at the heart of the show. Richard Pyros is amazing (although his is the best written role). Jonjo O steals every scene, leaving no scenery un-chewed!
I actually enjoyed the experience of seeing something being created and some of the real belly laughs came from the actors coping with this.
I'd love to see the finished article but would not have missed this preview/rehearsal for anything!
One sad note. The ending is visually beautiful but left a nasty taste in my mouth. Wish I knew how how to do spoilers!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 8:53:31 GMT
This is an odd one. Hasn't quite found its tone. Pace still little uneven. But the script and all the performances are superb. No sidelining for MS last night. He is at the heart of the show. Richard Pyros is amazing (although his is the best written role). Jonjo O steals every scene, leaving no scenery un-chewed! I actually enjoyed the experience of seeing something being created and some of the real belly laughs came from the actors coping with this. I'd love to see the finished article but would not have missed this preview/rehearsal for anything! One sad note. The ending is visually beautiful but left a nasty taste in my mouth. Wish I knew how how to do spoilers!! What was last nights running time? |
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Post by littlesally on Jul 7, 2016 9:49:04 GMT
Started 10 mins late. 20 minute interval. Finished at 10.05. It flew by (especially act 1)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 9:52:27 GMT
And the Royal Court website says 2h 30m inc interval, so it seems to have settled, maybe?
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