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Post by h86 on Nov 29, 2021 16:01:13 GMT
I'm a bit concerned over the glasses wearing, can anyone whose seen it explain why she is wearing glasses at what looks like the start but not later on? It looks OK, but just a bit sparse on set and lavishness for a fairytale Reading glasses, she wears them for reading! First Disney princess to do so!
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Post by SuttonPeron on Nov 29, 2021 16:02:59 GMT
I'm a bit concerned over the glasses wearing, can anyone whose seen it explain why she is wearing glasses at what looks like the start but not later on? It looks OK, but just a bit sparse on set and lavishness for a fairytale Because in this production, she wears glasses when she reads. I´m not a fan of this new staging. The costumes, sets, and especially orchestrations are nowhere near the originals.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 16:07:11 GMT
That's a little eyerolling to be honest, wearing glasses to be 'booky' and then not wearing then rest of the time or when 'beautiful'. Such an old stereotype, bit disappointing for a production trying to be more progressive
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Post by h86 on Nov 29, 2021 16:31:33 GMT
That's a little eyerolling to be honest, wearing glasses to be 'booky' and then not wearing then rest of the time or when 'beautiful'. Such an old stereotype, bit disappointing for a production trying to be more progressive Well that’s the whole point of reading glasses isn’t it - only wear them when reading! And she looks just as beautiful when wearing them. I think giving a Disney princess reading glasses is very progressive as it’s never happened before so……
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Post by stuartmcd on Nov 29, 2021 16:31:57 GMT
That's a little eyerolling to be honest, wearing glasses to be 'booky' and then not wearing then rest of the time or when 'beautiful'. Such an old stereotype, bit disappointing for a production trying to be more progressive It’s just glasses. Loads of people wear reading glasses. Less of a stereotype and more of a reality for a lot of people so why not work it into a character who famously reads a lot of books.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 16:47:40 GMT
I'm a bit concerned over the glasses wearing, can anyone whose seen it explain why she is wearing glasses at what looks like the start but not later on? You are 'concerned' about reading glasses? Really?
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Post by Seriously on Nov 29, 2021 19:03:48 GMT
I'm concerned about global warming.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2021 19:28:48 GMT
As someone whose always worn glasses you get fed up always seeing glasses used as a gimmick to fit a certain stereotype. Considering people in glasses can be told they're less attractive (not an overreaction, I and others I know have had it said to then before) it would be nicer if their going to have glasses to have her wear them all the time. Not just during the bookish scenes.
The word 'concerned' obviously refers to the video in question not life in general. Good to see this forum is as welcoming and open minded on discussion as always though
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Post by sph on Nov 29, 2021 23:15:15 GMT
Not sure a peasant girl in 18th century France would have glasses but then I suppose most peasants in the 18th century weren't avid readers either...
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Post by Seriously on Nov 29, 2021 23:22:37 GMT
She wouldn't have had a full orchestra either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2021 0:54:03 GMT
As someone whose always worn glasses you get fed up always seeing glasses used as a gimmick to fit a certain stereotype. Considering people in glasses can be told they're less attractive (not an overreaction, I and others I know have had it said to then before) it would be nicer if their going to have glasses to have her wear them all the time. Not just during the bookish scenes. The word 'concerned' obviously refers to the video in question not life in general. Good to see this forum is as welcoming and open minded on discussion as always though If she took off the glasses, shook her hair out and was suddenly sexy, then you might have a point about the stereotype...
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 30, 2021 8:21:00 GMT
Have they added a scene where she goes for laser surgery to correct her vision? Sounds ghastly if they do.
Or perhaps she discovers contact lenses by the end of the opening number?
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Post by partytentdown on Nov 30, 2021 8:32:34 GMT
Love that people think the most unusual part of the story is that she sometimes does/doesn't wear glasses, not that there's a sentient teapot and a sexy duster trapped in a cursed castle.
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Post by SuttonPeron on Nov 30, 2021 9:11:53 GMT
She wouldn't have had a full orchestra either. Since when are 10 musicians a full orchestra?
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Post by sph on Nov 30, 2021 13:56:13 GMT
There's nothing wrong with a leading lady wearing glasses. I just think in this particular setting it's a little incongruous, that's all.
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Post by danb on Nov 30, 2021 14:25:13 GMT
This sort of popular musical theatre is full of stereotypes! They get the story told quicker, set things up in a way that people can understand a whole lot easier. Is this the ‘nuance’ that people seem desperate for all of a sudden? It’s Disney…only a hairs breadth away from panto!
Girl wears glasses in the first few scenes to show us that she enjoys reading, is educationally inquisitive etc, then two scenes in is being lusted after by the towns alpha male. The specs come off just so that we understand why. 🙄
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Post by sph on Nov 30, 2021 15:29:17 GMT
I do like the overall design of the show in this video though, better than I originally thought, but yes the Beast is conspicuously absent.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2021 19:27:09 GMT
Have they added a scene where she goes for laser surgery to correct her vision? Sounds ghastly if they do. Or perhaps she discovers contact lenses by the end of the opening number? Or perhaps she's just happy wearing reading glasses like alot of people?
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Post by h86 on Dec 1, 2021 8:14:28 GMT
I do like the overall design of the show in this video though, better than I originally thought, but yes the Beast is conspicuously absent. When they filmed the trailer Emmanuel Kojo was still Beast and he’s now left the production so there will be footage that can’t be used. Has anyone heard whether they are getting a new beast in? Alyn Hawke has been covering it. For the Cardiff run Gavin Lee is not performing and Sam Murphy is playing lumiere which means that with Alyn and Sam out of the ensemble. Only 3 male swings and 2 on for duration of Cardif run means cover is short…..
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Post by macksennett on Dec 1, 2021 8:51:22 GMT
Haven’t heard anything. Shame Gavin is not doing Cardiff - I was looking forward to seeing him! What’s he up to instead?
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Post by h86 on Dec 1, 2021 17:07:16 GMT
Haven’t heard anything. Shame Gavin is not doing Cardiff - I was looking forward to seeing him! What’s he up to instead? I know it’s a shame he is missing the entire run at Cardiff. This is from his instagram - https://www.instagram.com/p/CWz5N_GKBRf
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Post by raiseitup on Dec 1, 2021 22:43:04 GMT
A little random I know, but I don't suppose anyone has a spare flyer/promo leaflet, or even maybe a spare programme I could buy off them for the current tour? I've got my partner tickets for the tour for Christmas and I'd love to be able to give them something physical not just a printout of a QR code.
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Post by macksennett on Dec 1, 2021 22:52:20 GMT
Haven’t heard anything. Shame Gavin is not doing Cardiff - I was looking forward to seeing him! What’s he up to instead? I know it’s a shame he is missing the entire run at Cardiff. This is from his instagram - https://www.instagram.com/p/CWz5N_GKBRf Thanks h86 - maybe I’ll catch Gavin another time. Am hoping Alyn is still the Beast for the Cardiff run - especially as he’s a Welsh man!
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Post by danb on Dec 2, 2021 7:45:13 GMT
A little random I know, but I don't suppose anyone has a spare flyer/promo leaflet, or even maybe a spare programme I could buy off them for the current tour? I've got my partner tickets for the tour for Christmas and I'd love to be able to give them something physical not just a printout of a QR code. It does tend to be on the front of any atg theatre brochure that it’s visiting if you can get hold of one?
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Post by h86 on Dec 8, 2021 18:23:49 GMT
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