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Post by ceebee on Jul 31, 2023 21:32:50 GMT
Watching the Evita concert tonight and it struck me that Matt Rawle would make a great Arnaud du Thil if this got revived...
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Post by theatreian on Jul 31, 2023 21:42:11 GMT
Matt Rawle would make a great Arnaud du Thil if this got revived... Yes remember Matt playing Martin Guerre in the original with Iain Glen as Arnaud. I saw it many times in it's various guises and loved it. |
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Post by ceebee on Jul 31, 2023 21:48:37 GMT
Matt Rawle would make a great Arnaud du Thil if this got revived... Yes remember Matt playing Martin Guerre in the original with Iain Glen as Arnaud. I saw it many times in it's various guises and loved it. You and me both! With his long locks and beard tonight in Evita, he looked very similar to the way Iain Glen looked as Arnaud. |
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Post by bellatheatre on Aug 5, 2023 12:38:22 GMT
Not sure if this will be in the 2024 season, but they are workshopping again!
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Post by theatrefan62 on Aug 5, 2023 13:51:50 GMT
I'd love this to happen, and with Matt Rawle. Immaybe a bit obvious but I think Jamie muscato would make a great Martin Guerre, he'd sing the sh*t out of the score and act it well too
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 5, 2023 14:10:53 GMT
They’ve been workshopping this for about 78 years.
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Post by danb on Aug 5, 2023 17:02:29 GMT
Yes, they can’t quite work out how to make a story with no central mystery mysterious enough. Look, I’m Martin Guerre….yes we know and we know that he isn’t, what else have you got? Weirdo with a doll? Hmmm. Protestants vs Catholics? Nahhh. Setting fire to the stage? Not any more…I can listen to it til the cows come home, but until they solve the problem with the central dynamic I’m not sure I’d schlepp to the big smoke for it.
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Post by cancanfan on Aug 5, 2023 18:44:32 GMT
Not sure if this will be in the 2024 season, but they are workshopping again! When is the workshop happening? |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Aug 5, 2023 19:01:09 GMT
Honestly I wish they'd just do the original version.
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Post by cezbear on Aug 5, 2023 19:42:22 GMT
Does anyone know why Rebecca Lock is on the OLC rather than Juliette Caton? I've always wondered, since Juliette was the lead and I'm all the promos like the above video.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Aug 5, 2023 20:09:27 GMT
I dont know why, but having seen them both a few times, Rebecca Locke was by far the stronger singer of the two Bertrandes. Locke was the standby/Alternate if i remember correctly, but dont quote me on that.
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Post by danb on Aug 5, 2023 20:15:23 GMT
I think they just realised that Lock was considerably stronger vocally. We went several times in the first few weeks and it was a bit of a slog. Moments of genius hidden in a 3 hour plus show. The stomping ✔️ Martin Guerre ✔️ All I Know 🔥 Tell Me To Go 🔥 and Bethlehem 🎄….but my God there were boring stretches of blah exposition and people that just were not interesting fleshing out the good bits. Stephen Clark did what he could by version 3 but it must’ve been a battle to get there.
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Post by toomasj on Aug 5, 2023 21:18:33 GMT
Does anyone remember seeing Jerome Pradon in this?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 6, 2023 20:09:47 GMT
I also want to know why Caton wasn’t on the recording.. it can’t be that her vocals were inferior surely? I like her voice
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Post by danb on Aug 6, 2023 20:36:59 GMT
You know what Cameron is like with a new toy. As soon as he gets a better one…whoosh!
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Post by cezbear on Aug 7, 2023 8:00:31 GMT
I might get shot down in flames for this but I really, truly can't stand Rebecca Lock's voice on the OLC. I like her usually but I find her vocals on it really jarring, so I'd have preferred Juliette (who sounded fine to me from everything I've heard). Bit of a kick in the teeth to be pushed out from the recording! I mean, they kept Iain Glen who was fine but certainly isn't the strongest singer they could have used, if that was their reasoning for Bertrande.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 7, 2023 10:33:20 GMT
I agree - Glen is a fine actor but a pretty average singer.
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Post by toomasj on Aug 7, 2023 11:14:37 GMT
You know what Cameron is like with a new toy. As soon as he gets a better one…whoosh! Accurate. Lloyd Webber is worse. |
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Post by viserys on Aug 7, 2023 12:02:19 GMT
I mean, they kept Iain Glen who was fine but certainly isn't the strongest singer they could have used, if that was their reasoning for Bertrande. Wasn't Juliette Caton someone's daughter/wife/otherwise a nepobaby, so there was lots of criticism that she only got the role because of her connections while Rebecca Lock felt more like the "deserving one"? It's all so long in the past and I can't stand this musical, so I can't be sure, but I seem to remember that bit. |
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Post by macksennett on Aug 7, 2023 15:01:20 GMT
I remember seeing Juliette Caton and enjoyed her performance - does anyone know what she’s been up to since?
Matt Rawle was stunning in the lead role and has been fantastic in everything I’ve seen him in since.
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Post by ceebee on Aug 7, 2023 15:46:08 GMT
I remember seeing Juliette Caton and enjoyed her performance - does anyone know what she’s been up to since? Matt Rawle was stunning in the lead role and has been fantastic in everything I’ve seen him in since. Including the recent Evita concert?! |
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Post by sf on Aug 7, 2023 15:55:32 GMT
I also want to know why Caton wasn’t on the recording.. it can’t be that her vocals were inferior surely? I like her voice I saw it in very late previews. She has a nice enough voice, but she sang flat all the way through. It was not a good performance. |
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Post by macksennett on Aug 7, 2023 16:03:26 GMT
I remember seeing Juliette Caton and enjoyed her performance - does anyone know what she’s been up to since? Matt Rawle was stunning in the lead role and has been fantastic in everything I’ve seen him in since. Including the recent Evita concert?! I didn’t see that concert - I did see him in the production at the Adelphi though. Hope to see him again soon. |
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Post by ceebee on Aug 7, 2023 19:02:49 GMT
Including the recent Evita concert?! I didn’t see that concert - I did see him in the production at the Adelphi though. Hope to see him again soon. Yes, I saw him at the Adelphi and thought he was good - I also saw him in the title role in Martin Guerre. I've always rated him, but he wasn't on his A-game for the concert sadly. |
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Post by Sven on Aug 8, 2023 6:42:57 GMT
Juliette has been a vocal coach for 25 years apparently. I saw the show in all its incarnations at the Prince Edward quite a lot from the beginning. Of Juliette and Iain, I preferred her vocally. Makes me think of the alternate Arnaud, Glyn Kerslake. I once saw him on the wednesday doing main Enjolras at Les Mis and the day after as Arnaud. Apparently he once did also u/s Valjean in the same week he did Arnaud and Enjolras. Anyway, he was a much superior Arnaud I thought. Matt Rawle was also a fantastic newcomer, and later on the young David Shannon as Guillaume (even better than Jerome Pradon in my view). Those were the days! |
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