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Post by theatreian on Aug 30, 2022 11:01:17 GMT
Had me all excited seeing this thread again, thought there may be a revival!
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Post by Someone in a tree on Aug 30, 2022 11:04:57 GMT
I really couldn’t think of more perfect homes for this than the likes of the Watermill, Regents Park or even the Minsck in Cornwall. It needs grounding in the elements or something similarly rustic. The watermill staged it in 2007. Press raved about but it left me cold - I remember leather and ribbons tied to instruments to try and make them look medieval!
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Post by ceebee on Aug 30, 2022 23:38:21 GMT
I really couldn’t think of more perfect homes for this than the likes of the Watermill, Regents Park or even the Minsck in Cornwall. It needs grounding in the elements or something similarly rustic. The watermill staged it in 2007. Press raved about but it left me cold - I remember leather and ribbons tied to instruments to try and make them look medieval! This was the Craig Revel Horwood production. It was fabulous dahling! I loved it!
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Post by Mark on Sept 18, 2022 21:59:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2022 22:03:45 GMT
This would be wonderful news! (Although like all the MG rumours I’ll believe it when it happens). The score I find sensational. Would love to see it on stage once more.
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Post by Oleanna on Sept 18, 2022 23:04:16 GMT
A workshop took place a couple of weeks ago at The Old Vic.
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Post by cezbear on Sept 19, 2022 6:26:47 GMT
Oh yes PLEASE. All I ask is that they cast it well and I promise not to complain about the changes (this might be a lie).
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Post by alece10 on Sept 19, 2022 7:23:25 GMT
Hope this happens. It's one of the big shows I've never seen.
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Post by theatreian on Sept 19, 2022 8:15:17 GMT
I really hope so . I saw it several times in both formats.
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Post by danb on Sept 19, 2022 8:16:32 GMT
As long as it is played by a decent sized orchestra to give the score the ooomph it needs…
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Post by inthenose on Sept 19, 2022 8:17:32 GMT
As long as it is played by a decent sized orchestra to give the score the ooomph it needs… 😂😂😂 Oh, you were being serious.
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Post by danb on Sept 19, 2022 10:12:00 GMT
I’m hoping Selladoor or Kenwright pick it up. 😂
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Post by ceebee on Sept 19, 2022 19:23:42 GMT
One of the greatest shows ever written. This NEEDS to happen.
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Post by christya on Sept 19, 2022 19:44:23 GMT
Having seen both previous incarnations, this is basically a case of "Shut up and take my money", to be honest.
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Post by danb on Sept 19, 2022 20:27:41 GMT
Whilst I’m with Ceebee in my love & respect for ‘Martin Guerre’, I do not wish to hear the score played/augmented/bolstered/butchered by a machine that will make it sound like an ice cream van has just entered the cul-de-sac or I’m about to get on a Blackpool carousel horse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 20:38:36 GMT
Just such a fascinating musical. To change and evolve so much yet to have such glorious parts in all versions. Even Chess doesn't come close to all the chopping and changing that went on here.
Wish the 2nd Prince Edward version had also been recorded!
Though never saw the Watermill version so no idea how it's changed again since the WYP tour.
Still find it utterly bizarre to use the alternate in the OLC (stunning though she sounds - but what a snub for the leading lady).
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 19, 2022 20:41:12 GMT
The problem with any retelling of this story is how to create tension when we already know the essence of the story.
Of the versions I have seen, I do prefer the original which I saw very early on in the run. It felt better than the rather heavy handed focus on the conflict between Catholic and Protestant communities which came to the fore with the earlier reworkings.
But they have never found a way to build real tension into the musical.
There is a lot of good music to be salvaged.
But the plot is a harder but to crack
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 21:18:23 GMT
Saw a version at the Goodman Theater in Chicago on the 90s and was blown away by it all. Longest-lasting memory is of the cast foot-stomping in the opening musical number and the sheer power of a simple gesture done in unison.
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Post by ceebee on Sept 19, 2022 21:49:21 GMT
Whilst I’m with Ceebee in my love & respect for ‘Martin Guerre’, I do not wish to hear the score played/augmented/bolstered/butchered by a machine that will make it sound like an ice cream van has just entered the cul-de-sac or I’m about to get on a Blackpool carousel horse. I think the original intro would sound great in ice-cream van chimes...
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Post by max on Sept 20, 2022 21:55:12 GMT
As long as they don't restore the prominence of the sex obsessed elder village women, and the lad singing songs to a corn dolly. I saw the West End version when it opened, and then the version after it closed for readjustments and reopened. Just watched a bit of archive on youtube and lyrics landed very four-square on too much 4/4 time, leaving lots of time to guess rhymes which always takes you out of it.
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Post by newyorkcityboy on Sept 21, 2022 12:02:00 GMT
Hmm. While I loved some of the changes made for the second recording, I much prefer the orchestral sweep of the original. As many have said, the story lacks a certain dramatic tension.
The Jim Carey movie The Majestic is a partial update of the legend of MG (it’s set in the 50s in the aftermath of WW2) and I wonder if this might actually make a better musical; although not critically acclaimed at the time it’s actually a great little movie & is well worth checking out.
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Post by ceebee on Sept 21, 2022 12:49:08 GMT
As long as they don't restore the prominence of the sex obsessed elder village women, and the lad singing songs to a corn dolly. I saw the West End version when it opened, and then the version after it closed for readjustments and reopened. Just watched a bit of archive on youtube and lyrics landed very four-square on too much 4/4 time, leaving lots of time to guess rhymes which always takes you out of it. The burning of Louison used to make me cry. (Or at least the superb acting of Sebastien Torkia did when he was playing Benoit.) The three old crones can do one though.
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Post by inthenose on Sept 21, 2022 15:10:26 GMT
Hmm. While I loved some of the changes made for the second recording, I much prefer the orchestral sweep of the original. As many have said, the story lacks a certain dramatic tension. The Jim Carey movie The Majestic is a partial update of the legend of MG (it’s set in the 50s in the aftermath of WW2) and I wonder if this might actually make a better musical; although not critically acclaimed at the time it’s actually a great little movie & is well worth checking out. Sommersby too, of course.
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Post by danb on Sept 21, 2022 18:11:04 GMT
Hmm. While I loved some of the changes made for the second recording, I much prefer the orchestral sweep of the original. As many have said, the story lacks a certain dramatic tension. The Jim Carey movie The Majestic is a partial update of the legend of MG (it’s set in the 50s in the aftermath of WW2) and I wonder if this might actually make a better musical; although not critically acclaimed at the time it’s actually a great little movie & is well worth checking out. Sommersby too, of course. How do you know? HOW DO YOU KNOW? I knaww becosh I never lurved him tha way that ah lurve you. Awwww Sommersby.
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Post by zahidf on Sept 22, 2022 11:05:46 GMT
Seems to be at the Old Vic theatre according to the rumour mill, with Matthew Warchus directing
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