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Post by Marwood on Aug 6, 2023 22:22:29 GMT
Mark Strong is 60 today: are there any stage actresses that could play his mother and you could believe him having an urge to um, ‘do the do’?
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Post by londonpostie on Aug 7, 2023 13:23:31 GMT
He doesn't look bad for it. A wig, a little night cream, a few Pilates classes and he'd get away with .. late-ish 40s?
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Post by Jan on Aug 7, 2023 13:51:54 GMT
Is this still happening. There are rumours on Twitter (X) that Icke is doing Henry IV parts 1 and 2 in the West End next with Ian McKellen as Falstaff. Noel Coward theatre. According to Greg Doran in 2014 he offered Falstaff to McKellen when he was directing Henry IV but he turned it down. This left Doran totally stumped until someone (I think McKellen himself) said “But the perfect Falstaff is under your nose !” and only at that point did Doran consider offering it to Anthony Sher. Ha ha. If you believe that etc. Not sure that McKellen is right for that part - Justice Shallow maybe - but what is not in doubt is that he normally chooses the best director for his Shakespeares (his last Hamlet being an obvious exception). |
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Post by nottobe on Aug 7, 2023 15:25:54 GMT
I also hope this is still happening as I really enjoyed the stream ITA did a few years ago. And also hope the Henry plays is true as that will be a must see.
I think I said in another thread that Charlotte Rampling could be a good choice as a replacement as she is only a year younger than Helen Mirren.
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Post by londonpostie on Aug 7, 2023 15:50:48 GMT
Last year we had a Juliet 5 years older than a Lady Macbeth (Buckley and Ronan). At this point it's either Harriet Walter or Lily Allen.
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Post by sweets7 on Aug 7, 2023 23:46:51 GMT
Is this still happening. There are rumours on Twitter (X) that Icke is doing Henry IV parts 1 and 2 in the West End next with Ian McKellen as Falstaff. Noel Coward theatre. According to Greg Doran in 2014 he offered Falstaff to McKellen when he was directing Henry IV but he turned it down. This left Doran totally stumped until someone (I think McKellen himself) said “But the perfect Falstaff is under your nose !” and only at that point did Doran consider offering it to Anthony Sher. Ha ha. If you believe that etc. Not sure that McKellen is right for that part - Justice Shallow maybe - but what is not in doubt is that he normally chooses the best director for his Shakespeares (his last Hamlet being an obvious exception). If you belief that. I didn’t see that but did see Sher in Death of a Salesman. Co staring Harriet Walker who said on that Bryson podcast that she was returning to the stage. So yes maybe her. Still maintain the best person I ever saw on stage was M. Gambon. Just extraordinary. The dear much missed H McCrory too although I never really know whether that was her sheer sexiness…which always caught me when I saw her because it didn’t really translate to the screen. Not for me anyway. |
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Post by Jan on Aug 8, 2023 9:05:43 GMT
Still maintain the best person I ever saw on stage was M. Gambon. Just extraordinary. Gambon is one of several actors I’ve seen disappoint as Falstaff - you would have thought he’d have been perfect for it. The only one I can remember who was good in the role was Robert Stephens. Of current actors I’d rather see Conleth Hill play it than McKellen. |
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Post by sweets7 on Aug 8, 2023 9:26:25 GMT
Still maintain the best person I ever saw on stage was M. Gambon. Just extraordinary. Gambon is one of several actors I’ve seen disappoint as Falstaff - you would have thought he’d have been perfect for it. The only one I can remember who was good in the role was Robert Stephens. Of current actors I’d rather see Conleth Hill play it than McKellen. Maybe Toby has inherited the flair. Wait until he gets to that age. I didn’t see him play that part. |
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Post by Jan on Aug 8, 2023 17:14:44 GMT
Gambon is one of several actors I’ve seen disappoint as Falstaff - you would have thought he’d have been perfect for it. The only one I can remember who was good in the role was Robert Stephens. Of current actors I’d rather see Conleth Hill play it than McKellen. Maybe Toby has inherited the flair. Wait until he gets to that age. I didn’t see him play that part. I like Gambon, King Lear, A View from the Bridge, and others. But for Henry IV by mistake I went to a surtitled performance and he was departing from the text, it made for an anxious viewing, probably for the other actors too. |
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Post by lynette on Aug 8, 2023 17:35:18 GMT
Sher was an excellent Falstaff. The anecdote is in Doran’s book and I do believe it.
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Post by David J on Aug 8, 2023 20:25:43 GMT
Roger Allan’s falstaff all the way for me. David Warner was my first falstaff in Michael Boyd’s histories but I can’t remember much now. I did think Boyd’s vision didn’t match with Henry part 1’s lighthearted tone. Part 2 was better, and that was directed by his assistant director
I do also remember liking Anthony Quayle in the 1979 bbc version
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Post by sweets7 on Aug 8, 2023 23:28:55 GMT
He doesn't look bad for it. A wig, a little night cream, a few Pilates classes and he'd get away with .. late-ish 40s? Love this. Wouldn’t we all be thrilled with that. |
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Post by Jan on Aug 9, 2023 7:41:32 GMT
Roger Allan’s falstaff all the way for me. David Warner was my first falstaff in Michael Boyd’s histories but I can’t remember much now. I did think Boyd’s vision didn’t match with Henry part 1’s lighthearted tone. Part 2 was better, and that was directed by his assistant director I do also remember liking Anthony Quayle in the 1979 bbc version I didn’t see Allam. I thought Warner was hopelessly miscast, Sher too, even Simon R-B was mediocre in the TV version. John Woodvine was very good years ago. |
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jan 18, 2024 18:39:32 GMT
Mirren out, Manville in
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Post by aspieandy on Jan 18, 2024 19:44:22 GMT
Indeed. A bit of a blow.
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Post by Rory on Jan 18, 2024 19:48:14 GMT
I'm happy with this casting!
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Post by dr on Jan 18, 2024 19:49:46 GMT
This might be a new most-anticipated show of the year. The ITA production sounds thrilling and the fact it's coming during the US election seems to be no coincidence (Icke adapts it to be a Succession-style election drama, according to reviews.)
It's a shame Hans Kesting won't come to London, but Strong and Manville are sure to be excellent, and the Wyndham's will be a good house for it.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jan 18, 2024 19:52:14 GMT
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Post by sf on Jan 18, 2024 20:44:56 GMT
Typical. You wait ages for an Oedipus, and then two show up at once. |
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Post by Jon on Jan 18, 2024 22:18:19 GMT
The Old Vic Oedipus will probably be late January and I suspect the Mark Strong one will be closed by early January.
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Post by dr on Jan 18, 2024 22:27:59 GMT
The dates are available on the OV Website: 21 Jan–29 Mar 2025.
The Icke version is set to start on the 4th October, for a "limited run" - so will likely close early December at worst, or early January at best (in the vein of Sunset Boulevard, Old Friends, Dear England etc. this season.)
The Oedipus-Oedipus double show day appears unlikely...
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Post by Fleance on Jan 18, 2024 22:57:44 GMT
Looking forward to all Oedipuses. I don't think I've seen one since Adrian Noble's production at the RSC/Barbican, with Gerard Murphy.
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Post by alexandra on Jan 18, 2024 23:25:37 GMT
This might be a new most-anticipated show of the year. The ITA production sounds thrilling and the fact it's coming during the US election seems to be no coincidence (Icke adapts it to be a Succession-style election drama, according to reviews.) It's a shame Hans Kesting won't come to London, but Strong and Manville are sure to be excellent, and the Wyndham's will be a good house for it. It’s tremendous. I’ve seen it twice and will happily see it again, notwithstanding the absence of the supremely charismatic Kesting and Heebink. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 19, 2024 0:56:28 GMT
This Wyndhams version will run October to January.
I’d watch Manville read the phone book so I’m in.
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Post by Jon on Jan 19, 2024 1:16:01 GMT
I've only seen Lesley Manville in Long Day's Journey into Night and she was very good.
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