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Post by Jon on Nov 1, 2023 23:53:17 GMT
I'm surprised Dolly is being described as camp, I've seen the film and the 2017 Broadway production with Bernadette Peters and it's anything but camp. Imelda will be great.
I assume everyone has been keeping their diaries clear for when this production was to be mounted
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Post by carmella1 on Nov 2, 2023 2:50:05 GMT
This cast just does not inspire me. And the ages are all wrong. The two men are almost the same age.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 2, 2023 5:05:31 GMT
The supporting cast is really disappointing to be honest. But we don't get Hello Dolly over here very often, especially in a major production, so will definitely be seeing it to tick of theatre bucket list.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Nov 2, 2023 6:27:27 GMT
You’re welcome! Really annoyed Jenna is still doing this. Irene needs someone with a good voice. She does have a good voice. It's just not one that you like. Why get 'really annoyed' over something so trivial... Whilst this might have been a big hit on Broadway, I suspect this won't play anything like it did there. |
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Post by craig on Nov 2, 2023 7:47:44 GMT
Like her or not, Imelda is event theatre at this stage. I think her casting combined with the limited run announced will make this quite a quick sellout.
The U.S. has a different relationship with this show though, so I agree it probably won’t be the same size hit as it was on Broadway.
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Post by BVM on Nov 2, 2023 8:11:19 GMT
Sorry if this is answered somewhere upthread. Is this connected to/the same as the recent (ish) Broadway production with Bette Midler? Or a completely new production?
I know the Broadway production was a really big deal. I've never actually seen the show or the film. I bought the Bette CD though. Probably committing heresy, but other than a couple of songs, the title number included, I didn't think there were that many bangers, and only listened to it twice. Anyway, people loved it, so I assume the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. And like everyone I love Queen Imelda so will deffo check it out when the time comes.
I honestly think it's very unlikely it will immediately sell out though. Huge excitement in theatre circles is not the same as huge excitement from the masses. Plus almost nothing sells that well in advance these days.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Nov 2, 2023 8:13:42 GMT
Sorry if this is answered somewhere upthread. Is this connected to/the same as the recent (isn) Broadway production with Bette Midler? Or a completely new production? New production |
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Post by Oleanna on Nov 2, 2023 8:14:42 GMT
Sorry if this is answered somewhere upthread. Is this connected to/the same as the recent (isn) Broadway production with Bette Midler? Or a completely new production? I know the Broadway production was a really big deal. I've never actually seen the show or the film. I bought the Bette CD though. Probably committing heresy, but other than a coupe of songs, the title number included, I didn't think there were that many bangers, and only listened to it twice. Anyway, people loved it, so I assume the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. And like everyone I love Queen Imelda so will deffo check it out when the time comes. I honestly think it's very unlikely it will immediately sell out though. Huge excitement in theatre circles is not the same as huge excitement from the masses. Plus almost nothing sells that well in advance these days. New production, unconnected to the Bette Midler Broadway revival. |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 2, 2023 8:28:26 GMT
If anything it’s Michael Harrison that’s putting me off this. Lesley Joseph will be touring this in 2025 - put your bets now Or even worse, they drag the role and Craig Revel Horwood. |
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 2, 2023 8:33:49 GMT
You’re welcome! Really annoyed Jenna is still doing this. Irene needs someone with a good voice. She does have a good voice. It's just not one that you like. Why get 'really annoyed' over something so trivial... Whilst this might have been a big hit on Broadway, I suspect this won't play anything like it did there. Jenna has a lovely voice, she's just entirely wrong casting for Irene Malloy on paper... |
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Post by theatrelover123 on Nov 2, 2023 8:38:29 GMT
She does have a good voice. It's just not one that you like. Why get 'really annoyed' over something so trivial... Whilst this might have been a big hit on Broadway, I suspect this won't play anything like it did there. Jenna has a lovely voice, she's just entirely wrong casting for Irene Malloy on paper... What’s her casting like on metal? Is it better on felt? How about marble? |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 2, 2023 8:53:47 GMT
You’re welcome! Really annoyed Jenna is still doing this. Irene needs someone with a good voice. She does have a good voice. It's just not one that you like. Why get 'really annoyed' over something so trivial... Whilst this might have been a big hit on Broadway, I suspect this won't play anything like it did there. I’d say having a good voice is not at all trivial IN A MUSICAL! |
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 2, 2023 9:16:47 GMT
Jenna has a lovely voice, she's just entirely wrong casting for Irene Malloy on paper... What’s her casting like on metal? Is it better on felt? How about marble? Still wrong I'd imagine |
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Post by JJShaw on Nov 2, 2023 9:29:25 GMT
Lesley Joseph will be touring this in 2025 - put your bets now Or even worse, they drag the role and Craig Revel Horwood. Danny LaRue did it in the 80's; not to get too deep but it's crazy that in the last 10 years or so we have gone backwards in "our" acceptance and what is considered boundary pushing. (Not being rude to you just sad that if CRH was announced and that idea isn't actually that wild it would be seen as some big Thing when its already been done!) I saw someone earlier say they like the new logo, I preferred the 2020 version with just the red and white, not the overused bulb lights, but I like the design on the D making the heart its cute! I imagine once The Crown comes out that'll push some tickets as well, does anyone remember what sales were like in 2020 before it was cancelled? Obviously the production was far away but was it solid sales out the gate? I do remember buying my ticket almost like a year in advance but don't remember going back to check how it was doing? Agree that US has a far bigger love affair with the show than we do, and traditional style musicals like this, Crazy For You, haven't done as well recently. 42nd Street seemed to do ok-ish from what I remember? Interesting they have gone for some safe choices for supporting casts so it's really all up to Imelda to bring in the people, how did her Gypsy do? Again I remember sitting in the grand circle so it must have done alright...! |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 2, 2023 9:38:46 GMT
Or even worse, they drag the role and Craig Revel Horwood. Danny LaRue did it in the 80's; not to get too deep but it's crazy that in the last 10 years or so we have gone backwards in "our" acceptance and what is considered boundary pushing. (Not being rude to you just sad that if CRH was announced and that idea isn't actually that wild it would be seen as some big Thing when its already been done!) I saw someone earlier say they like the new logo, I preferred the 2020 version with just the red and white, not the overused bulb lights, but I like the design on the D making the heart its cute! I imagine once The Crown comes out that'll push some tickets as well, does anyone remember what sales were like in 2020 before it was cancelled? Obviously the production was far away but was it solid sales out the gate? I do remember buying my ticket almost like a year in advance but don't remember going back to check how it was doing? Agree that US has a far bigger love affair with the show than we do, and traditional style musicals like this, Crazy For You, haven't done as well recently. 42nd Street seemed to do ok-ish from what I remember? Interesting they have gone for some safe choices for supporting casts so it's really all up to Imelda to bring in the people, how did her Gypsy do? Again I remember sitting in the grand circle so it must have done alright...! I know Danny did it before, but its a great role for an older actress, something that is severly lacking. So to have a man come along and take it isn't great, especially as it will likely go down the camp for laughs route. When, as had been stated, there's more depth to the character. |
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Post by erik24601 on Nov 2, 2023 9:58:54 GMT
I can understand why Danny did it - his drag was basically Dolly at the time anyway lol I wouldn’t go and see CRH play Dolly though. It’s not about pushing boundaries… it feels gimmicky.
Personally can’t stand Jenna Russell’s voice. I don’t want to hear this score sung through her tight nasal cavities.
And just to complete my hat trick of moans on this when I’ve clearly woken up on the wrong side of the bed, why does the artwork look so bad? They’ve made it look like there’s a full stop at the end of Hello and it just looks….. ick.
Back on my perch I go!
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 2, 2023 10:02:47 GMT
I think the artwork is slightly better than the previous one, but it still looks cheap and amateur. Like something anyone could do in an hour.
The placing of imeldas name is too close to the logo and looks disproportionately big compared to the logo.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 2, 2023 10:10:14 GMT
Looking at Es Devlin's (designer) previous work (including Dear England) I think they will be going for the "modern" route with a lot of screen use re the design especially as it's such a short run. I'm also preparing myself for the ticket pricing as they have got to make their money back in 10 weeks. That’s lovely- but it’s Rae Smith Designing it. I’d heard that what was designed for the Adelphi was very brown and dour- let’s hope she’s found her red and gold paint by now. |
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Post by erik24601 on Nov 2, 2023 10:22:04 GMT
Bill Deamer though….. 🙌
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 2, 2023 10:24:46 GMT
I think the artwork is slightly better than the previous one, but it still looks cheap and amateur. Like something anyone could do in an hour. The placing of imeldas name is too close to the logo and looks disproportionately big compared to the logo. I think that’s a bit unfair. All they used in NYC was a font- at least a little more effort has gone in to it here. I hated it when it was white and red, but think this is much improved. Maybe my standards are dropping! |
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 2, 2023 10:25:34 GMT
Looking at Es Devlin's (designer) previous work (including Dear England) I think they will be going for the "modern" route with a lot of screen use re the design especially as it's such a short run. I'm also preparing myself for the ticket pricing as they have got to make their money back in 10 weeks. That’s lovely- but it’s Rae Smith Designing it. I’d heard that what was designed for the Adelphi was very brown and dour- let’s hope she’s found her red and gold paint by now. Just looked at her website and her work certainly seems very muted and dark. Not typically Dolly |
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Post by nash16 on Nov 2, 2023 11:18:46 GMT
I’m seeing an empty stage, lots of side lighting, some onstage camerrrrras, and, in the the title number, Dolly descending covered in the blood of her fox fur, and the ensemble facing away from her whilst monotoning “Hello”. The lighting will reduce and reduce over the course of the show. The curtain call will be solemn, and Imelda will be refused a bow. Instead, the Ensemble will simply point at her. Dominic Cooke will be arraigned for stealing Lloyd’s vision. Lloyd will have already been arraigned for stealing van Hove’s. 5 stars. That’s lovely- but it’s Rae Smith Designing it. I’d heard that what was designed for the Adelphi was very brown and dour- let’s hope she’s found her red and gold paint by now. Just looked at her website and her work certainly seems very muted and dark. Not typically Dolly |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Nov 2, 2023 11:58:57 GMT
Sorry if this is answered somewhere upthread. Is this connected to/the same as the recent (ish) Broadway production with Bette Midler? Or a completely new production? I know the Broadway production was a really big deal. I've never actually seen the show or the film. I bought the Bette CD though. Probably committing heresy, but other than a couple of songs, the title number included, I didn't think there were that many bangers, and only listened to it twice. Anyway, people loved it, so I assume the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. And like everyone I love Queen Imelda so will deffo check it out when the time comes. I honestly think it's very unlikely it will immediately sell out though. Huge excitement in theatre circles is not the same as huge excitement from the masses. Plus almost nothing sells that well in advance these days. I love the score but I don't rate the recent broadway cast recording, just seems very flat. I recommend the two recordings with Carol channing |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 2, 2023 12:07:10 GMT
Sorry if this is answered somewhere upthread. Is this connected to/the same as the recent (ish) Broadway production with Bette Midler? Or a completely new production? I know the Broadway production was a really big deal. I've never actually seen the show or the film. I bought the Bette CD though. Probably committing heresy, but other than a couple of songs, the title number included, I didn't think there were that many bangers, and only listened to it twice. Anyway, people loved it, so I assume the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. And like everyone I love Queen Imelda so will deffo check it out when the time comes. I honestly think it's very unlikely it will immediately sell out though. Huge excitement in theatre circles is not the same as huge excitement from the masses. Plus almost nothing sells that well in advance these days. I love the score but I don't rate the recent broadway cast recording, just seems very flat. I recommend the two recordings with Carol channing Yes agree. The title song on the Bette recording is painfully slow, and the whole thing lacks sparkle. I seem to remember they recorded it whilst in rehearsals which is very early. |
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Post by mkb on Nov 2, 2023 12:21:30 GMT
Anyone else having issues signing up for the pre-sale?
The sign-up link in the email doesn't work, so you go directly to the website and follow the sign-up link from within there. After entering your details and hitting the button, the browser gives no clue that anything is happening, then after about 30 seconds, the screen changes to "Sign up here for Hello, Dolly! pre-sale access at The London Palladium" but there's little else on that screen. I presume that was message was meant to tell me I had successfully registered, but it's been miscoded. So, I've no idea whether I have successfully registered or not. Repeating the process gives the same result, not even a "You are already registered" error.
It never ceases to amaze me how many businesses put web changes into the public domain without doing full testing.
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