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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 20:21:50 GMT
Unfortuantely, there's quite a few flops of shows in London recently. This could be to nobody's taste or high ticket prices.m
What do you think have been the biggest "flops" recently?
I think Hand to God, War of Worlds and Bend it haven't exactly done well this year...
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Post by theatre-turtle on Apr 22, 2016 20:46:12 GMT
Since Show Boat is already on TKTS at around half price for Saturday Matinee and Evenings it may be on its way to joining this list.
Mrs Henderson Presents
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 20:48:13 GMT
Unfortuantely, there's quite a few flops of shows in London recently. This could be to nobody's taste or high ticket prices.m What do you think have been the biggest "flops" recently? I think Hand to God, War of Worlds and Bend it haven't exactly done well this year... Bend It did really well when it first came out, however in it's final months it sadly didn't do so well. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 20:49:18 GMT
Made in Dagenham and Women on the Verge too... even though neither deserved to close as early as they did, 6 months each is better than nothing!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 20:50:58 GMT
Made in Dagenham and Women on the Verge too... even though neither deserved to close as early as they did, 6 months each is better than nothing! Yeah totally agree! I really enjoyed Made in Dagenham. I think it should've opened in a regional theatre or smaller thatre like playhouse of Phoenix. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 20:51:45 GMT
Since Show Boat is already on TKTS at around half price for Saturday Matinee and Evenings it may be on its way to joining this list. Mrs Henderson Presents Huge shame about Showboat, hopefully it will do better as reviews come out, hope it doesn't flop! Yes Mrs H wasn't bad but hasn't warmed to the oublic |
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Post by theatre-turtle on Apr 22, 2016 20:51:52 GMT
Made in Dagenham and Women on the Verge too... even though neither deserved to close as early as they did, 6 months each is better than nothing! I think both of these were good, but I can see how they don't really have an audience, especially among the casual theatre goers or tourist market. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 22, 2016 20:54:52 GMT
Bend It didn't do well in its first months.
Flops is part of the nature of the theatre business unfortunately, as you imply it's a recent phenomenon, it isn't!f lops have happened since theatre begun.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 21:05:50 GMT
Yes, not a successful musical, and not even a musical really. |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 21:11:11 GMT
Bend It didn't do well in its first months. Flops is part of the nature of the theatre business unfortunately, as you imply it's a recent phenomenon, it isn't!f lops have happened since theatre begun. Bend It got rave reviews, was voted best West End musical on Time Out (and won by a mile from what I can remember), extended and not 100% sure about this one, but I think they released their cast recording early due to popular demand. It's rather sad to think that some shows, after so much effort has gone into trying to put on a good show, just flop and are completely forgotten. There's just so many good shows out there, it's an incredibly hard profession to go into. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 22, 2016 21:16:40 GMT
Got all the raves a show could want, that didn't stop from letting people in for £15, because no one wanted to see it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 21:18:59 GMT
Got all the raves a show could want, that didn't stop from letting people in for £15, because no one wanted to see it. He speaks the truth. It was even struggling toward the end of the Summer when the tourist crowds should of been coming in. It was a tough season and only the strongest survived it. Something about Bend It just didn't interest audiences. |
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Post by Michael on Apr 22, 2016 21:22:12 GMT
I can't sing was a pretty big flop - unfortunately, I must say as I loved the show for what it was.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 21:33:27 GMT
Got all the raves a show could want, that didn't stop from letting people in for £15, because no one wanted to see it. Yes that is very true, they literally gave away tickets and tried to get people in. It wasn't an amazing show, I'm not surprised it closed early if I'm completely honest. |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 22, 2016 22:16:03 GMT
From what I hard from various people, in the first month or two Bend It did well, but there is no denying that in the end it was a flop. Wasn't a fan of I Can't Sing (The X Factor Musical), it could've been done so well, but didn't feel Harry Hills was the best writer for the show. Cynthia Eviro was great though!
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Post by Jon on Apr 22, 2016 22:51:17 GMT
I think this should go to general chat but a show like Hand to God was always going to be a hard sell even with the success it had on Broadway and I think even if ticket prices were cheaper, I doubt it would cut the number of flops.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 23:52:12 GMT
I think this should go to general chat but a show like Hand to God was always going to be a hard sell even with the success it had on Broadway and I think even if ticket prices were cheaper, I doubt it would cut the number of flops. There is generally very little public knowledge of Broadway theatre, and its success or otherwise, except amongst a very small number of people who follow it very closely (and many of whom seem to post on here). And of those select few who can recite a list of current and recent Broadway successes, only a small proportion will translate Broadway success into an indication that they might personally wish to see a show if it transfers here. So, for example, I had never even heard the title of Hand to God before it was announced in London, and I'd take the mass appreciation of Broadway audiences as a personal recommendation to avoid a popular show, and my main assumption about any show featuring hand sock puppets would be that it would be foolish to sit further than a few metres away, which would rule out most of the seats in a West End theatre. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 23, 2016 0:37:17 GMT
From what I hard from various people, in the first month or two Bend It did well, but there is no denying that in the end it was a flop. Wasn't a fan of I Can't Sing (The X Factor Musical), it could've been done so well, but didn't feel Harry Hills was the best writer for the show. Cynthia Eviro was great though! You just don't get it, even when people on here have given you examples, Bend it Like Beckham was unlikely to return any of its investment, it got killed by yield of ticket and a sizeable wage bill, due to size of cast. Excuse the metaphor but Sonia Friedman literally dropped the ball on this one. who are these people who told you a Beckham made money? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 7:51:45 GMT
From what I hard from various people, in the first month or two Bend It did well, but there is no denying that in the end it was a flop. Wasn't a fan of I Can't Sing (The X Factor Musical), it could've been done so well, but didn't feel Harry Hills was the best writer for the show. Cynthia Eviro was great though! You just don't get it, even when people on here have given you examples, Bend it Like Beckham was unlikely to return any of its investment, it got killed by yield of ticket and a sizeable wage bill, due to size of cast. Excuse the metaphor but Sonia Friedman literally dropped the ball on this one. who are these people who told you a Beckham made money? Yes it didn't do well at all. When I went we was upgraded to front row for nothing from upper circle. I'm glad I didn't pay for the money when I went, it was for a friends birthday, otherwise I would've thought I had wasted my money. The amount if empty seats was a lot and they literally asked yoy to come and watch. The show just wasn't thought through. Story wasn't amazing and neither were the songs. Didn't feel like a west end show that much. |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 23, 2016 8:35:04 GMT
From what I hard from various people, in the first month or two Bend It did well, but there is no denying that in the end it was a flop. Wasn't a fan of I Can't Sing (The X Factor Musical), it could've been done so well, but didn't feel Harry Hills was the best writer for the show. Cynthia Eviro was great though! You just don't get it, even when people on here have given you examples, Bend it Like Beckham was unlikely to return any of its investment, it got killed by yield of ticket and a sizeable wage bill, due to size of cast. Excuse the metaphor but Sonia Friedman literally dropped the ball on this one. who are these people who told you a Beckham made money? I've given you example too and I have listened to what you have said. I could say you "just don't get" what I'm saying as well. I haven't denied that Bend It wasn't a flop in the end, just saying from what I've heard it did quite well for it's first month or two. Those people could be wrong, just stating different info I've heard. Yes, I reckon they did lose money. That came from people who were actually working at the theatre. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 8:53:07 GMT
I've never been aversed to a floppy Beckham, personally.
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Post by JJShaw on Apr 23, 2016 9:28:20 GMT
as much as i loved it urinetown certainly flopped when it transferred into the west end
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 12:16:14 GMT
The trouble with flops is some of our favourite shows can just happen to be flops. I loved Women on the Verge, Made in Dagenham, Henderson etc... its crap they all closed early but I still love them.  |
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Post by steve10086 on Apr 23, 2016 12:29:41 GMT
Flops aren't necessarily bad, they can just be not popular. Some of the best things I've seen had very short, unsuccesful, runs. I always feel appreciative that writers/producers continue to take chances - even when they don't always become hits.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 23, 2016 13:02:15 GMT
Saddest one for me was Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, that didn't do so well. That show really deserved better.
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