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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 1, 2019 16:32:51 GMT
So he lectures about there being a lack of new british musicals/musicals in general opening in London and then goes and opens his own new musical on Broadway? I see.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 10:21:58 GMT
I think his head has been turned as the reception in the UK to Love Never Dies and Stephen Ward was luke warm at best then of course he finally had a hit with a new musical with School of Rock on Broadway. Though I do feel had LND or Stephen Ward gone to Broadway first the reception would have been ten times worse.
Had School of Rock opened first in London would it have done as well? Or did the Broadway buzz it had created help it over here. No idea.
What I do know is that over the years his shows have done MUCH better overall in London than in NYC. And I totally agree re the point above on new British musicals. Odd.
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Post by Oleanna on Jul 2, 2019 10:50:45 GMT
He had a very positive experience workshopping and opening School of Rock in New York, and he was treated like sh*t in this country for much of the past decade...you can’t blame him.
He’s also collaborating with an American lyricist.
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Post by chernjam on Jul 3, 2019 3:49:48 GMT
Doesn't ALW's daughter still work in NYC? Maybe that has something to do with it. Plus in recent years he's gotten a much better reception in NY. Having Lin Manuel-Miranda gushing about him on the Tony's - the JCS telecast winning an Emmy Award with John Legend and Sarah Barrailles (sp?-sorry too lazy to look it up) so if it has a successful launch here, it's doubtful that it will have any issues in London.
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Post by singularsensation10 on Jul 15, 2019 7:34:26 GMT
ALW just said on good morning Britain that this is opening on Broadway next year - guess that makes sense seeing as new shows tend to get much more of a financial backing and a more extensive development process on Broadway than over here in London. No doubt it will come back here if it’s even remotely successful on Broadway.
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Post by danb on Jul 15, 2019 7:36:45 GMT
ALW just said on good morning Britain that this is opening on Broadway next year - guess that makes sense seeing as new shows tend to get much more of a financial backing and a more extensive development process on Broadway than over here in London. No doubt it will come back here if it’s even remotely successful on Broadway. The text along the bottom of the screen said that it would be starring Carrie Hope Fletcher. Is that a confirmation then? |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jul 15, 2019 8:00:39 GMT
Well i hope so in a way. I think it's a cheek to workshop it over here, use British actors, then just go ahead and open it in America and use an American cast.
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Post by viserys on Jul 15, 2019 8:15:16 GMT
Bizarre. Carrie has a massive fan-following in the UK, so why not open it here? If it does well, she could still take it to Broadway, but she won't sell any tickets over there. When Sam Barks did Pretty Woman, she was at least somewhat known because of the Les Mis movie and of course Pretty Woman sold on the familiarity of the movie title, not on the names. Cinderella has been done to death so much, it will need more. I also pity all the parents of teenage Carrie fans who'll be begged to finance a trip to New York next year...
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Post by singularsensation10 on Jul 15, 2019 12:29:27 GMT
Bizarre. Carrie has a massive fan-following in the UK, so why not open it here? If it does well, she could still take it to Broadway, but she won't sell any tickets over there. When Sam Barks did Pretty Woman, she was at least somewhat known because of the Les Mis movie and of course Pretty Woman sold on the familiarity of the movie title, not on the names. Cinderella has been done to death so much, it will need more. I also pity all the parents of teenage Carrie fans who'll be begged to finance a trip to New York next year... Producers just won’t put up the same amount of money here as they will in New York. Even for something which seems quite reliable (an ALW show, or a production of Cinderella would be quite a reliable investment so combining the two could be very appealing to some investors). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 12:34:50 GMT
If she does go with it, it must be on an equity exchange programme because she's not getting it on star power or name recognition over there.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 15, 2019 12:44:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 13:49:04 GMT
She is truly insufferable. This is going to send her over the edge.
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Post by Jon on Jul 15, 2019 17:50:09 GMT
School of Rock was ALW's first new show in a very long time to recoup its investment so I'm not too surprised he's decided to open on Broadway first again with Cinderella.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 18:59:29 GMT
She is truly insufferable. This is going to send her over the edge. LOL - dunno about her, but is gonna send ME over the edge if I have to watch the newest show from my favourite composer surrounded by her fangirl army with cupcakes flying over my head. |
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Post by latefortheoverture on Jul 15, 2019 22:20:21 GMT
I mean if you get offered Broadway why turn it down? It opens countless doors, compared to what gets opened here sadly. Look at Cynthia Erivo...
I don't mind the girl; I try to ignore what goes on with her online, but she does have a good voice, Will be interested to see how this all pans out!
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Post by musicalmarge on Jul 15, 2019 22:52:35 GMT
One thing for sure - they won’t call it Cinderella. The website already exists and it’s the previous R&H show that is still playing in America! I think they will have to go for a name like “The Glass Slipper” or something ...
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Post by ali973 on Jul 16, 2019 13:33:26 GMT
There are many reasons that would make him open it in NY. Follow the money. His investors are probably in America, from America. I wouldn't be surprised if his investors are also theatre owners and would want to get their theatres occupied. You saw that there was over ten shows that closed on Broadway in a span of six weeks. Theatres need to have their next show lined up. Just because he wrote the music, it doesn't mean he's putting much money behind it. The reason why he flew in so many people from the US to see it at The Other Palace was probably to showcase it more for investors and producers so he can option it or license it a producer. This way he'd make his cut upfront without having to be burdened with producing or financing it.
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Post by Jon on Jul 16, 2019 13:38:21 GMT
School of Rock had the Shuberts and Nederlanders as producers/investors so I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the case for Cinderella
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Post by raider80 on Jul 16, 2019 22:58:23 GMT
Serious question, isn’t Brittney Spears Cinderella coming next season as well? I don’t think there is a market for those two shows in the same season.
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Post by ali973 on Jul 16, 2019 23:31:53 GMT
^ I don't think it's a Cinderella per se. The Britney Spears one is more of a hodgepodge of all the basic fairy tales but with a twist. Yes, it's as awful as it sounds. But I'm still going to see it.
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Post by chernjam on Aug 31, 2019 0:01:06 GMT
Just an update - NY Post is reporting today that ALW"s Cinderella is heading to Broadway not this Spring - but a year from now in the Fall. The delay, it seems, is because of Theatre shortages. Cinderella is slated to go into the Shubert theatre. Which will involve transferring "To Kill A Mockingbird" to another theatre. (They pointed out that Aaron Sorkin is the producer of Mockingbird and is producing with ALW for the first time ever on Cinderella... they snarked "...they're getting along, but some of us on the sidelines are waiting for Andrew to pull his score and Scott to throw his cellphone."
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Post by musicalmarge on Aug 31, 2019 20:40:57 GMT
I agree it won’t be called Cinderella.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 18:02:23 GMT
Surprised nobody's picked up on this (though I guess we are all distracted by the dreadful election hoo-hah).
Anyway ALW has Cinderella ready to go; looks like London 2020 now (phew!), needs a theatre. (Surely the Gillian Lynne makes sense?)
CHF +/- cupcakes to star!
Lawrence Connor directing (obviously).
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Post by chernjam on Dec 17, 2019 5:09:37 GMT
Really disappointed as I thought it was coming to NY first...
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Post by danb on Dec 17, 2019 5:16:38 GMT
So panto has scuppered Cinders going to the Palladium?
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