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Post by matthew90 on Oct 22, 2024 10:12:17 GMT
The producers of this show are so odd It's because they primarily aren't theatre producers Controversial...... But I've found the marketing and pricing structure from them actually really clever. It's turned me into an unintentional fan of the show when I had no strong intentions to go in the first place. I've now ended up going 6 times this year through their various ballots etc. Always try and take a new friend to see it, who inevitably gets hooked and starts doing the same as me. The pricing structure and short extensions creating demand also means you have to book in advance to ensure you get your money's worth for the ticket - advanced sales is what the west end has really struggled with post pandemic and the rise of Today Tix etc... |
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Post by Being Alive on Oct 22, 2024 10:38:12 GMT
It's because they primarily aren't theatre producers Controversial...... But I've found the marketing and pricing structure from them actually really clever. It's turned me into an unintentional fan of the show when I had no strong intentions to go in the first place. I've now ended up going 6 times this year through their various ballots etc. Always try and take a new friend to see it, who inevitably gets hooked and starts doing the same as me. The pricing structure and short extensions creating demand also means you have to book in advance to ensure you get your money's worth for the ticket - advanced sales is what the west end has really struggled with post pandemic and the rise of Today Tix etc... You must be the only person on planet earth that thinks this. |
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Oct 22, 2024 11:27:56 GMT
Controversial...... But I've found the marketing and pricing structure from them actually really clever. It's turned me into an unintentional fan of the show when I had no strong intentions to go in the first place. I've now ended up going 6 times this year through their various ballots etc. Always try and take a new friend to see it, who inevitably gets hooked and starts doing the same as me. The pricing structure and short extensions creating demand also means you have to book in advance to ensure you get your money's worth for the ticket - advanced sales is what the west end has really struggled with post pandemic and the rise of Today Tix etc... You must be the only person on planet earth that thinks this. Not so. I agree. Though I've only been there once with another person who indeed did go on to book again with someone else and probably continued the chain. Only ever attended on a Monday or Tuesday, just Mondays are still £39.50 which is fantastic value and has to be booked as soon as put on sale to get first choice of seat (which unusually for me is second or third row stalls for OM). Ballot is great for people who can only attend later in the week and while much harder to win than in the past it's much easier than the Today Tix ones. |
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Post by Nelly on Oct 22, 2024 11:29:04 GMT
Controversial...... But I've found the marketing and pricing structure from them actually really clever. It's turned me into an unintentional fan of the show when I had no strong intentions to go in the first place. I've now ended up going 6 times this year through their various ballots etc. Always try and take a new friend to see it, who inevitably gets hooked and starts doing the same as me. The pricing structure and short extensions creating demand also means you have to book in advance to ensure you get your money's worth for the ticket - advanced sales is what the west end has really struggled with post pandemic and the rise of Today Tix etc... You must be the only person on planet earth that thinks this. It's certainly had the exact opposite effect on me. |
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Post by khiar on Oct 22, 2024 11:30:39 GMT
Something funny is that they are using the exact same ballot & lottery tactics with the Taskmaster Live Experience.
Being a perpetual member of the lottery list is nice and has resulted in a few impulse trips - but it also means I wouldn't dream of paying £89 for a ticket when I can wait a few weeks and eventually get a £25 ticket. So the result of the lottery is I've seen the show more, but I don't think Avalon have made any more money off me than they would otherwise.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 22, 2024 13:16:03 GMT
I do not in any way agree that £39.50 for the worst seats in the house is 'fantastic value'. You also won't be getting Tuesday seats for that price anymore - it's £49.50 for the matinee and £59.50 for the evening. Again, for every seat including the absolute worst in the house. There is really no excuse for that kind of pricing. The producers are shameless.
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Oct 22, 2024 15:21:38 GMT
I do not in any way agree that £39.50 for the worst seats in the house is 'fantastic value'. You also won't be getting Tuesday seats for that price anymore - it's £49.50 for the matinee and £59.50 for the evening. Again, for every seat including the absolute worst in the house. There is really no excuse for that kind of pricing. The producers are shameless. I don't think I said that £39.50 was fantastic value for every seat in the house on a Monday, rather that it is for the seats I and many other fans of OM book on the day they are released. I also acknowledged that it's only on Mondays that price now applies, though £49.50 Tuesday matinee and £59.50 evening is a good deal for a lot of the seats. Some of what appear to be the worst seats for OM still get booked at the weekend for up to £89.50. The fortnightly lottery releases some of those seats and may be the only way a weekender can afford to see the show on a day they can go. I see a lot of amateur musicals which mostly have the same price for all seats. Invariably there are people sitting at the back even when there's plenty of availability further forward. At Mamma Mia (which I see multiple times each year thanks to their senior matinee pricing) the front row of the stalls is C which not everyone realises. While the more common reaction is pleasure to be in the front row I've occasionally observed requests to be moved further back. My personal best seat - stalls front row centre - may be someone else's too-close-for-comfort nightmare ! Rightly or wrongly, plenty of business people are shameless when it comes to making money and don't hesitate to price as high as they think the market will bear - think Oasis including the hotels when/where they are playing for instance. The same people, eg OM producers/backers, are perhaps the sort who will risk losing a hell of a lotm of money by taking their show to Broadway rather than the much safer option of a UK tour. They might make millions - I truly hope they do - or they may lose every penny. Good luck to everyone involved. |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 22, 2024 15:30:39 GMT
While I hope the creatives behind Mincemeat make plenty of money off it, wishing success specifically on the producers of this show is just a wild concept to me. They have done so many terrible things - awful pricing and insufferable marketing, yes, but so much behind the scenes that people can't publicly talk about. They shouldn't be commended.
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Oct 22, 2024 16:44:32 GMT
I can only assess a situation and form a view based on what's in the public domain and my own experience. You apparently have some insider knowledge which I guess paints a different picture. Fair enough.
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Post by usbuzzer on Oct 23, 2024 11:21:33 GMT
What do you think could/should be done before watching the show to understand it well and appreciate? I'm asking from a non-native English speaker perspective, I'm worried that I won't be able to enjoy it due to wordy songs or difficult accents.
I now have a movie from 2022 on my list to get the full story, but maybe there's something else you would recommend. I'd prefer not to listen to the cast recording beforehand to experience it on-stage, but maybe I should just read the lyrics?
Thanks in advance for all the tips!
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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 23, 2024 14:41:13 GMT
What do you think could/should be done before watching the show to understand it well and appreciate? I'm asking from a non-native English speaker perspective, I'm worried that I won't be able to enjoy it due to wordy songs or difficult accents. I now have a movie from 2022 on my list to get the full story, but maybe there's something else you would recommend. I'd prefer not to listen to the cast recording beforehand to experience it on-stage, but maybe I should just read the lyrics? Thanks in advance for all the tips! Honestly I'd listen to the cast album. Especially if you're planning to know roughly the plot from watching the Colin Firth film (or if you just know the history). There are some quick songs and imo it's better to be able to understand them (native English speaker or otherwise!) than try to preserve experiencing it for the first time on stage and missing things. Knowing the real history isn't going to help with the accents or the quick lyrics. Although it should be noted that the main characters speak in RP, so not as potentially difficult to understand for non-native English speakers as some of the secondary/tertiary characters with regional accents. |
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Post by darreno on Oct 23, 2024 16:44:34 GMT
What do you think could/should be done before watching the show to understand it well and appreciate? I'm asking from a non-native English speaker perspective, I'm worried that I won't be able to enjoy it due to wordy songs or difficult accents. I now have a movie from 2022 on my list to get the full story, but maybe there's something else you would recommend. I'd prefer not to listen to the cast recording beforehand to experience it on-stage, but maybe I should just read the lyrics? Thanks in advance for all the tips! I like to go into things with zero knowledge, I find it's the best way for me to enjoy it. However, if I'm going to something in a different language, or in your case a second language, I'd definitely give it a few listens, maybe with the lyrics scrolling along as you go? It is very wordy, and the jokes come quickly, sometimes subtly, and there's a lot of them!! It's so, so good, as I'm sure you already know. I'm there again on Saturday matinee, as excited as always! Enjoy!! |
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Post by usbuzzer on Oct 23, 2024 18:21:47 GMT
Thank you both for the tips! I usually go blind, but this time I’ll probably go through the music with lyrics  . |
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Post by darreno on Oct 23, 2024 18:27:22 GMT
Thank you both for the tips! I usually go blind, but this time I’ll probably go through the music with lyrics . I went into it blind,having not seen the film or familiar with the story. Although, by a weird twist of fate, I had visited a critical location in the story when driving around Spain, completely unknown to me until the musical educated me. WARNING: You're about to become a regular. 😁 |
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Post by Rory on Oct 25, 2024 9:37:04 GMT
I've lost track. When is this actually extended until now please?
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Post by Dave B on Oct 25, 2024 10:59:35 GMT
I've lost track. When is this actually extended until now please? 19 April 2025. |
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Post by partytentdown on Oct 25, 2024 13:41:30 GMT
There are auditions happening now in NYC, presumably for local covers/understudies.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Oct 25, 2024 14:00:56 GMT
I'm curious who they're going to get to play Jean in London. Holly can't do both that and alternate Monty!
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Post by darreno on Oct 28, 2024 8:58:29 GMT
I was back at the Fortune for the Saturday matinee, bringing along some friends who hadn't seen it before.
Pleased to report that it's still a 5 star show, I had worried that the parts being so 'married' to the likes of Natasha Hodgson et al would mean that anyone following would feel watered down, but I needn't have worried. We're well into their run now and they've made the characters their own. I had seen Christian before and he is my favourite Hester, his committment to every part he plays is unbelievable. Great, great performer.
My first timer friends enjoyed it too, nice to hear the different bits that stood out to them that I hadn't really considered.
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Post by usbuzzer on Oct 28, 2024 14:05:40 GMT
Did anybody get a response from this week's drawing? I believe it's usually right at 2pm and I have neither lost/won 5 minutes after.
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Post by anxiousoctopus on Oct 28, 2024 14:07:41 GMT
I check every time there’s a drawing and honestly at this point I have not had a successful draw in over a year. I don’t know about the success rate of other lottery systems but it feels like a pointless exercise at this point
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Post by usbuzzer on Oct 28, 2024 14:09:45 GMT
That's unexpected, I checked two weeks ago with a friend's email and have won on the first try... :/ If anybody has a link and won't be using it, please reach out via dm!
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Post by Paulw on Oct 28, 2024 14:10:42 GMT
I check every time there’s a drawing and honestly at this point I have not had a successful draw in over a year. I don’t know about the success rate of other lottery systems but it feels like a pointless exercise at this point It is when everything goes in the first few minutes after the superfans take them all! |
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Post by anxiousoctopus on Oct 28, 2024 14:11:03 GMT
That's unexpected, I checked two weeks ago with a friend's email and have won on the first try... :/ If anybody has a link and won't be using it, please reach out via dm! I think there’s something in the lottery system that makes you more likely to succeed if you’re a new sign-up, but then going forwards it’s increasingly unlikely |
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Post by usbuzzer on Oct 28, 2024 14:12:18 GMT
That's unexpected, I checked two weeks ago with a friend's email and have won on the first try... :/ If anybody has a link and won't be using it, please reach out via dm! I think there’s something in the lottery system that makes you more likely to succeed if you’re a new sign-up, but then going forwards it’s increasingly unlikely Sure, that makes sense, that's why I tried it out with my friend's email, to use mine today. Ech, such a shame  |
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