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Post by angelcake on Sept 26, 2024 17:49:02 GMT
To achieve just 75 percent of its gross potential at the Golden and recoup its $11.5 million minimum capitalization within a year, Mincemeat tickets must average about $146. To achieve just 75 percent of its gross potential at the Golden and recoup its $11.5 million minimum capitalization within a year, Mincemeat tickets must average about $146. (I calculated that from a Mincemeat recoupment chart for an unnamed theater with 802 seats, which is the capacity of the Golden.) Only Hamilton, McNeal with Robert Downey Jr., Oh, Mary! and The Outsiders command a higher average price. (Cabaret did as well — until movie star Eddie Redmayne left the cast Sept. 14.) So this explains why they are prepping people for a potential stunt cast. Still firmly believe Daniel Radcliffe would make a great Chumley, not sure who I could envision in other roles, celeb casting-wise Saoirse Ronan for Monty? I have no idea if she can sing, but she sort of looks the part. Sam Barks for Jean?? It would be a hard one to stunt cast! |
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Post by erik24601 on Sept 27, 2024 9:20:47 GMT
Could certainly be the next Chicago with a rolling celebrity cast.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Sept 27, 2024 9:24:24 GMT
Again, I really can't stress enough that this is not being stunt cast. So the question actually should be, who will be playing Jean in the UK?
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Post by Being Alive on Sept 27, 2024 9:31:08 GMT
Yeah I don't know where you're all getting the idea this is being stunt cast - it could not be further from the truth.
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Post by erik24601 on Sept 27, 2024 10:23:10 GMT
I meant more as a strategy to keep it going eventually
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Post by ncbears on Sept 27, 2024 18:47:38 GMT
To achieve just 75 percent of its gross potential at the Golden and recoup its $11.5 million minimum capitalization within a year, Mincemeat tickets must average about $146. To achieve just 75 percent of its gross potential at the Golden and recoup its $11.5 million minimum capitalization within a year, Mincemeat tickets must average about $146. (I calculated that from a Mincemeat recoupment chart for an unnamed theater with 802 seats, which is the capacity of the Golden.) Only Hamilton, McNeal with Robert Downey Jr., Oh, Mary! and The Outsiders command a higher average price. (Cabaret did as well — until movie star Eddie Redmayne left the cast Sept. 14.) So this explains why they are prepping people for a potential stunt cast. Still firmly believe Daniel Radcliffe would make a great Chumley, not sure who I could envision in other roles, celeb casting-wise I don't think the producers plan to recoup within one year. That's a hefty goal Some shows fully recoup - if at all - after two, three or even four years. yes, there have been some that recoup within one year - but those are rarities. |
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Post by Sam on Sept 30, 2024 8:09:44 GMT
I saw a post on instagram referring to some competition that they seem to be running whereby you solve a number of puzzles and are in with a chance of winning flights hotel and tickets for the opening night of the New York run should it transfer...
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Post by FrontroverPaul on Sept 30, 2024 18:04:14 GMT
Just noticed I've won the fortnightly lottery for the first time this year.
I saw OM just a few weeks ago so won't be using the link to book myself. It was sent out almost five hours ago so limited availability though there are currently £25 (instead of £89) seats for Saturday evening in the upper circle, and a few elsewhere for some other performances.
Happy to forward the email to anyone who wants to check availability and maybe book - just send me a message with your email address.
Incidentally as I type this there are two excellent stalls seats available @ 39.50 for Monday 7 October. Mondays are rarely available close to show date
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 30, 2024 18:39:11 GMT
Feels wrong that this is being considered for Broadway before even touring it in the U.K. I’m already doubtful about seeing it (on the unannounced but inevitable U.K. tour) given concerns about it only really works with the original cast. I don’t think that performance at The Oliviers did it any favours either. You can put it in a big theatre and light it all up yellow but when you have a tiny cast playing multiple parts it comes off as cheap and compromised.
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Post by lt on Sept 30, 2024 19:03:57 GMT
Feels wrong that this is being considered for Broadway before even touring it in the U.K. I’m already doubtful about seeing it (on the unannounced but inevitable U.K. tour) given concerns about it only really works with the original cast. I don’t think that performance at The Oliviers did it any favours either. You can put it in a big theatre and light it all up yellow but when you have a tiny cast playing multiple parts it comes off as cheap and compromised. I saw it without the original cast and it remains one of the very best things I've seen this year. I absolutely loved it. |
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Post by Dr Tom on Sept 30, 2024 21:24:33 GMT
This works perfectly well with the current cast. You need a certain type of actor to pull off the multiple roles, fast changes, and sheer campness, but these are gifts of parts for the right people.
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Post by Being Alive on Oct 1, 2024 8:56:30 GMT
Why does a show need to tour the UK before heading to Broadway out of interest?
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Post by shownut on Oct 1, 2024 9:54:07 GMT
Why does a show need to tour the UK before heading to Broadway out of interest? Not sure but it isn't unheard of to test shows in Toronto before heading to Broadway to get a feel for how North American audiences react to the material (Mamma Mia!, Priscilla, Girl From The North Country were among many that went this route). Mincemeat would be well advised to consider this. I think there are a lot of assumptions that Bway audiences will be warm to this material and they may well be in for a £14 million dollar shock. I wish them well.... and yes, they did ask the Shubert org if they could paint the interior bright yellow and were flatly refused.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 2, 2024 15:40:09 GMT
Posts moved to International
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Post by yuzu on Oct 4, 2024 22:08:10 GMT
Made a visit this week. This was my first time after the original cast, and of course there's nostalgia clouding my vision, but they just didn't seem lively enough this time. I think playing Montagu more subtly than Natasha Hodgson is a fair decision, but Holly Sumpton (and the rest of the new cast) seemed too subdued when he's a character that needs a certain level of swagger, for lack of a better word, which meant some jokes just didn't land. I loved Claire-Marie Hall as usual, but her usual delivery felt too big for this new dynamic. "Useful" remains one of my favourite songs. (Random question I've always wondered about - is the way she pronounces "strength" more like "strenth" without a "g" standard for her accent?)
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Post by BVM on Oct 5, 2024 10:26:57 GMT
Feels wrong that this is being considered for Broadway before even touring it in the U.K. I’m already doubtful about seeing it (on the unannounced but inevitable U.K. tour) given concerns about it only really works with the original cast. I don’t think that performance at The Oliviers did it any favours either. You can put it in a big theatre and light it all up yellow but when you have a tiny cast playing multiple parts it comes off as cheap and compromised. I honestly could not agree with this more. It's doing so well here - so why not build on that for now. Like Six it is small and could easily tour whilst remaining in the West End. It would also give producers an idea of what the appetite is for this outside London in a much safer economic exercise. I swear there's a cult in MT in that if you launch in the West End you have to become obsessed with Broadway whether it's sensible or not! |
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Post by Dawnstar on Oct 13, 2024 16:16:16 GMT
Having finally managed to win the ticket lottery last week after months of waiting, I finally saw the not-really-new-any-more cast yesterday afternoon. I thought overall the standard was similar to that of the original cast, though there were individual actors who I somewhat preferred/wasn't quite as keen on compared to their counterparts. I definitely prefer Sean Carey as Charles, which I already knew from seeing him understudying last year. They could do with changing the couple of lines about a tall lolloping sidekick though given the description doesn't really fit him. I was a bit dubious in advance about Emily Barber as Montagu, having read a number of comments on here from people who weren't too keen on her in comparison to Natasha Hodgson, but I really liked her & thought she had a lovely vocal timbre especially in her singing voice. Possibly not trying to sound as masculine might help with that. Jak Malone was the orginal cast member who I did find myself missing, as while Christian Andrews gave a very good performance I didn't think he was quite as good in acting some of the non-Hester characters and while his Hester was very well-acted I thought some of his highest notes weren't quite a secure. I thought Chloe Hart was very good, especially as Hasleden, though I think I slightly preferred Zoe Roberts as Bevan & Fleming. Obviously Claire-Marie Hall was aa good as herself! So overall it was pretty much a draw between the two casts for me. Jean is now the only role I've only seen played by one person. I'd like to see Holly Sumpton as Jean (I aw her as Monty last year) but without knowing cover dates in advance it's impossible, and even the cryptic emojis on Twitter seem to have stopped in recent months let alone any definite understudy information. I hope I'll get to see this cast again in the next few months but with prices what they are that'll depend on whether I happen to win the lottery again, as I really can't justify paying £50+.
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Post by moviebuffff1n on Oct 21, 2024 12:37:48 GMT
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Post by ladidah on Oct 21, 2024 13:07:09 GMT
Why the constant tiny extensions, I find it really aggravating!
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Post by unseaworthy on Oct 21, 2024 13:55:49 GMT
Why the constant tiny extensions, I find it really aggravating! The producers of this show are so odd |
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Post by wta2024 on Oct 21, 2024 14:28:27 GMT
Jeez, it is getting more pathetic than the 'final' extensions for 'Sleep No More'.
Everything around this show is just WEIRD. But as long as it is making them money, they (probably Avalon) won't stop this annoying behavior.
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Post by aneild on Oct 22, 2024 1:54:41 GMT
They're exchanging the ability to sell long into the future (which is increasingly not what ticket buyers are doing) for free press and being able to say X Extensions!!! and have a number that sounds huge, even though they've been running for less than two years. This seems kind of savvy to me, at least until everyone else starts doing it. A long-running show isn't trading on the people on this board. They always need to reach new audiences, and the average person probably still hasn't heard of Operation Mincemeat, even if they have, any reminder that it exists helps sell tickets. While press outlets keep reporting on these extensions, they'll keep doing them short. Maybe don't write about it on this board if you find it annoying. All you're doing is feeding their machine.
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Post by FrontroverPaul on Oct 22, 2024 3:08:01 GMT
Why the constant tiny extensions, I find it really aggravating! Why not - and how is their policy "aggravating" ? Keeps the buzz going and every extension gets them some free publicity I hope the people behind the show are making loads of money and continue to do so home and abroad ! Regular short(ish) booking extensions clearly works for Operation Mincemeat. As well as receiving an email I usually read about it in What's On Stage etc. Book Of Mormon has quietly done something similar for years with a forward booking period of only about four months. That's never less than 90% full when I visit. I think the innovative marketing is very clever and the way they use social media is to be applauded. Their pricing strategy has winners and losers but is little different to peak summer rates at holiday hotels and airlines. Monday shows I've attended seem to have a mainly-superfan audience with a great atmosphere, while Fridays and Saturdays have ample on the day availability for weekend tourists. They also avoid using Rush and other promotions as far as I'm aware so everyone pays the same depending on day of the week. Don't think OM will equal Six as an international success but won't it be lovely if a show that's so quintessentially British does as well in the USA as the very American Hamilton has over here ? |
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Post by khiar on Oct 22, 2024 8:51:37 GMT
You can trust that if it is ever actually closing, they will make a huge noise about it. There will be mincefluencers out wailing in the streets. When it's really closing, you'll know. Everything else is just the end of the current booking period. I don't see it as misleading or anything. In some ways it's weirder that I can already book tickets for September 2025 for Hadestown, do people really book that far in advance?
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Post by craigbowker on Oct 22, 2024 9:01:37 GMT
Why the constant tiny extensions, I find it really aggravating! The producers of this show are so odd It's because they primarily aren't theatre producers |
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