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Post by hoopoe on Jun 12, 2024 17:29:51 GMT
One for someone with some inside knowledge? Looking at the latest schedule, there seem to be no shows over Xmas (well, Dec 24th to Jan 1st inclusive). Does anyone know if that’s set in stone, or maybe they just haven’t agreed/sorted Xmas dates yet? Last year tickets for Dec 26th - 31st were only available to people on the mailing list from when they went on sale in July to Oct 6th, so it could be that they're planning some kind of special/restricted release for that period again this year. |
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Post by ruperto on Jun 12, 2024 17:38:23 GMT
Thanks for the info, hoopoe!
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Jun 12, 2024 19:10:10 GMT
I do want to see this again with new cast (saw it in preview the last time and was SO blown away) I am acquainted with one of the cast this time around - entered the lottery.
Shocked. I think Avalon are drunk. They have an amazing fandom; repeat visitors - it’s just dumb and shooting them selves in the foot.
I have to say I hope this backfires for them massively. Greed.
Real shame. Really shameful.
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Post by n1david on Jun 12, 2024 22:28:09 GMT
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Post by Rory on Jun 12, 2024 22:36:04 GMT
Apart from anything else it's now just too complicated to work out how to book the bloody thing. Not everyone has time to sift through a whole instruction manual about ballots and so on. Ridiculous. And what about those of us who don't live in London and have to plan a trip like a military expedition in advance? Rely on getting lucky in a lottery? No thanks. Hard pass.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Jun 13, 2024 8:57:00 GMT
They've really messed up, but they're too proud to ever admit it and pivot to a sensible ticket selling strategy. Whether they just don't want it to look like they've made a mistake, or if they're genuinely convinced this is sensible, I don't know, but they are dooming a show that could have found even more success than it's had with them. Operation Mincemeat succeeds despite Avalon, rather than because of them.
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Post by capybara on Jun 13, 2024 9:19:49 GMT
Hard to disagree with any of the comments here and even elsewhere on social media, previously diehard fans have expressed their disgust at the latest cash grab from Avalon. I’ve got tickets booked to see the new cast in August (Monday night, obv) but in future it will have to be lottery wins only - and they’re becoming more and more infrequent.
Is it a ploy to demonstrate its commercial viability to Broadway investors? It does seem to sell out every night, regardless of the horrendous pricing strategy.
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Post by jm25 on Jun 13, 2024 9:36:40 GMT
I can only think that they're pushing ahead with this strategy because tickets are selling, regardless of how unpopular this approach is with diehards and casual fans alike. I suppose that's capitalism for you, and it's probably made easier by the show's recent success at the Oliviers, but it does seem incredibly short-sighted. Are they seriously expecting to sustain sales at these exorbitant prices in the long-term? I know someone at work who saw it and loved it - but still thought their £50 tickets were expensive!
Also makes it hard to really believe in the whole "little show that could" narrative that they are so keen to push. It may have been once but it feels like we're moving well past that now.
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Post by iwanttix on Jun 13, 2024 9:39:34 GMT
The only way I'm seeing this again is a lottery win. I rarely pay full price for a show, especially if I've seen it before - and as much as I like this show, most of the seats in that theatre are not worth how much they cost.
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Post by max on Jun 13, 2024 9:44:54 GMT
I wonder what will happen in London when there's a hint of sales tapering off - certainly enough for anyone outside London to expect a tour to come near them soon, and definitely stay away. The dip could be steep. For a musical it's exceptionally easy to tour.
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Post by francistheatreboard on Jun 13, 2024 11:37:00 GMT
I can only think that they're pushing ahead with this strategy because tickets are selling, regardless of how unpopular this approach is with diehards and casual fans alike. I suppose that's capitalism for you, and it's probably made easier by the show's recent success at the Oliviers, but it does seem incredibly short-sighted. Are they seriously expecting to sustain sales at these exorbitant prices in the long-term? I know someone at work who saw it and loved it - but still thought their £50 tickets were expensive! Also makes it hard to really believe in the whole "little show that could" narrative that they are so keen to push. It may have been once but it feels like we're moving well past that now. The lottery over 100 seats available for all performances on there, depends on their definition of the strategy working! |
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Post by Nelly on Jun 13, 2024 13:34:24 GMT
Thank you for sharing this. I have yet to see the show but I have seen on Twitter the discourse surrounding the numerous questionable ticket pricing/allocation decisions. It has all sounded so confusing that I haven't bothered trying to figure out the best way to try and see the show despite being interested. |
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Post by Jon on Jun 13, 2024 13:40:27 GMT
If it were me, I'd probably do the pricing as £39.50 for the upper circle, £79.50 for the dress circle and at £89.50 for the stalls with a sprinkle of premium seats at £109.50. in the stalls and dress.
Whether it would work is debatable but gives a variety of pricing.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Jun 13, 2024 13:50:24 GMT
Looks like we’ve been quoted on X 👀
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Post by blamerobots on Jun 13, 2024 17:09:10 GMT
Looks like we’ve been quoted on X 👀 hahaha just saw that scrolling through. I could recognise the "Get. In. The. Bin." anywhere Depends what other people here who were quoted think, but if what we're saying can be amplified somewhere like Twitter, I think that's alright. |
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Post by lt on Jun 13, 2024 17:30:22 GMT
Thank you for sharing this. I have yet to see the show but I have seen on Twitter the discourse surrounding the numerous questionable ticket pricing/allocation decisions. It has all sounded so confusing that I haven't bothered trying to figure out the best way to try and see the show despite being interested. It's honestly not that complicated! I applied for the Monday ballot, got tickets a while back. All the tickets were £25 and plus a booking fee. So went on a Saturday and had great seats in the stalls, so a pretty good deal I think. |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Jun 14, 2024 8:58:09 GMT
Thank you for sharing this. I have yet to see the show but I have seen on Twitter the discourse surrounding the numerous questionable ticket pricing/allocation decisions. It has all sounded so confusing that I haven't bothered trying to figure out the best way to try and see the show despite being interested. It's honestly not that complicated! I applied for the Monday ballot, got tickets a while back. All the tickets were £25 and plus a booking fee. So went on a Saturday and had great seats in the stalls, so a pretty good deal I think. The Monday ballot and lottery tickets are separate things. What you're describing is the lottery. So it is indeed actually rather complicated. |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Jun 14, 2024 9:08:35 GMT
Just noticed that the week before Christmas is £90 for every show except the Monday... It's like the production company WANT to have the least accessible musical on the West End? I truly cannot fathom it.
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Post by lt on Jun 14, 2024 9:57:21 GMT
It's honestly not that complicated! I applied for the Monday ballot, got tickets a while back. All the tickets were £25 and plus a booking fee. So went on a Saturday and had great seats in the stalls, so a pretty good deal I think. The Monday ballot and lottery tickets are separate things. What you're describing is the lottery. So it is indeed actually rather complicated. No I am not. The Operation Mincemeat website clearly calls this the Monday Ballot, here is the link:
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Post by evilmat360 on Jun 14, 2024 10:14:32 GMT
The Monday ballot and lottery tickets are separate things. What you're describing is the lottery. So it is indeed actually rather complicated. No I am not. The Operation Mincemeat website clearly calls this the Monday Ballot, here is the link:
Which is completely different to the Lottery which draws on a Monday.
The Monday ballot was for priority access into the more popular Monday, Tuesday and Saturday performances at the publicly available prices, not the discounted £25 lottery rate.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Jun 14, 2024 10:32:14 GMT
No I am not. The Operation Mincemeat website clearly calls this the Monday Ballot, here is the link:
Which is completely different to the Lottery which draws on a Monday.
The Monday ballot was for priority access into the more popular Monday, Tuesday and Saturday performances at the publicly available prices, not the discounted £25 lottery rate.
Yes, this. Any ticket booked at £25 was from a lottery draw, not the ballot. The cheapest ballot ticket is the usual Monday night price. It really is just complicated, I'm afraid. |
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Post by westendfan1 on Jun 14, 2024 10:37:23 GMT
The Monday ballot and lottery tickets are separate things. What you're describing is the lottery. So it is indeed actually rather complicated. No I am not. The Operation Mincemeat website clearly calls this the Monday Ballot, here is the link:
If, as you say, all the seats were £25, you are DEFINITELY talking about the lottery, not the Monday ballot. Also, I love how this discussion is only reinforcing how complex the whole thing is! |
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Post by khiar on Jun 14, 2024 10:43:32 GMT
The Monday ballot and lottery tickets are separate things. What you're describing is the lottery. So it is indeed actually rather complicated. No I am not. The Operation Mincemeat website clearly calls this the Monday Ballot, here is the link:
As far as I can recall, the Ballot has always offered full-price tickets (formerly for Mondays only, and now for Mondays, Tuesdays, and Saturdays) and the Lottery has always offered £25 tickets (which draws fortnightly on a Monday). |
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Post by lt on Jun 14, 2024 16:58:22 GMT
No I am not. The Operation Mincemeat website clearly calls this the Monday Ballot, here is the link:
If, as you say, all the seats were £25, you are DEFINITELY talking about the lottery, not the Monday ballot. Also, I love how this discussion is only reinforcing how complex the whole thing is! I have to hold my hand up and apologise. I was wrong. I thought the fact that it took place on Monday meant it was the ballot not the lottery. (Although I am not sure the difference in meaning between a lottery and a ballot...) |
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Post by Rory on Jun 14, 2024 17:24:29 GMT
If, as you say, all the seats were £25, you are DEFINITELY talking about the lottery, not the Monday ballot. Also, I love how this discussion is only reinforcing how complex the whole thing is! I have to hold my hand up and apologise. I was wrong. I thought the fact that it took place on Monday meant it was the ballot not the lottery. (Although I am not sure the difference in meaning between a lottery and a ballot...) Little wonder you're confused. How can producers make booking a theatre ticket so damn complicated? It's bonkers. |
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