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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 21:10:28 GMT
Documentary about Eva Peron but links a lot to the musicals creation. Features Elaine Paige, Hal Prince, Tim Rice, Elena Roger.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Nov 25, 2018 7:56:30 GMT
Whoops! Just seen this, I posted about it in the Evita thread ahh well, I have done worse
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Post by musicallady on Nov 25, 2018 15:34:36 GMT
I expected more about the life of the musical. A bit disappointed.
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Post by johartuk on Nov 27, 2018 1:16:24 GMT
I'm just watching it now (repeat showing on BBC2). It's interesting to see the original rehearsal footage. Ooh, and now Elena Roger.
Interesting stuff.
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Post by SageStageMgr on Nov 27, 2018 14:02:24 GMT
There are tons of interesting books about the real Evita for those who are interested.
The musical is based off a book by Mary Main, which was hyper critical of the Perón's, as she grew up in Argentina with a British ancestry I believe. There are portions of the biography which have been discredited and disproven beyond doubt. However, the sentiment is accurate. Perónism did indeed bankrupt society - that is a key point.
But Main's novel, and therefore the famous musical it is shaped from, have indelibly imprinted on us the lasting legacy of Evita as we know it. Well, "we" outside of Argentina - in her homeland she is still worshipped by many as the Goddess she was pitched as towards the end of her life.
In short, I've read three books and watched countless documentaries on Evita and Perónism and I'm still none the wiser. Like Thatcher, Perónism seems to be entirely subjective to one's political opinions - marmite.
Although I would say, if one looks at the results, economically and from an ambassadorial perspective, they don't come out of it well from an international democratic perspective. They did of course enable the 'ratlines' which allowed thousands of German nazis and war criminals to escape to South America. They gave free harbour to same and refused extradition - and committed their own atrocities of free speech upon their own society.
Finally, nobody actually voted for Evita. She was the wife of the president who led a military junta in extremely volatile times. She was a hardcore socialist in an outright fascist government.
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Post by SageStageMgr on Nov 27, 2018 15:05:42 GMT
Finally, nobody actually voted for Evita. She was the wife of the president who led a military junta in extremely volatile times. She was a hardcore socialist in an outright fascist government. Yeah, but she had a nice singing voice... I love you. |
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Post by richey on Nov 27, 2018 20:09:33 GMT
One thing that did strike me on the programme was EP seemed to struggle with singing the songs now.
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 29, 2018 19:16:21 GMT
One thing that did strike me on the programme was EP seemed to struggle with singing the songs now. Oh absolutely! I guess it's age and the smoking doesn't help. What a fascinating woman Eva was and how interesting that all these years on how she still divide options across the country. I thoroughly enjoyed this programme and getting a bit of an insight into both the reversal period for the stage show and the movie. I do appreciate that the film also divided opinion but personally I loved it. I thought it was gritty and complimented the desomisadoes (the shirtless ones). And Antonio Banderas is just fantastic! But back to the documentary. I guess it doesn't matter what side of the opinion poll you stand, there's no denying Eva's determination. I thought that both Elaine Paige and Elena Roger gave really interesting insights into the musical. And the death mask that Elaine Paige had to have made for the show. Forgive me if I'm wrong but in the rehearsal footage was that a very young Nigel Planer standing on the right hand side of Eva's coffin? A quick Google search confirms this was the case. Makes me want to go to Argentina to see the Case Rosada. |
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Post by distantcousin on Dec 18, 2018 19:02:38 GMT
Excellent documentary. Some new insights - even for me who has read many books!
Never seen so much of the original production rehearsal footage.
Interview with Michelle Breeze was cool.
I'm sure Tim Rice didn't conceive Che as "Che Guevera" - I was sure that was only a Hal Prince idea? (as the film and the Grandage production seems to confirm)
Always surprised that Alan Parker didn't direct another musical. Although I'm sure there was talk of Blood Brothers at one point that never got off the ground.
Yes anthony40 , it was Nigel Planer.
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