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Post by oxfordsimon on Jun 3, 2019 14:03:55 GMT
If the person you cast can't sing the role, you have cast the wrong person. She wasn't even able to sustain the line at the lower tone.
I've always found that thinking very narrow - "the score must be sung as written" level of sacrosanctness.
There should be some freedom to make minor tweaks to accomodate a good actor and performer who perhaps cannot hit a few of the highest or lowest notes.
The freedom to interpret - that is fine And yes, there has been a long history of transposing sections to make things better for the cast member. However there is always a knock on effect in terms of transitions between numbers and how the rest of the cast have to also change to accommodate the soloist. What the composer intended in terms of the tonality and sound of the show is absolutely an important element in a musical. But that isn't the point I was making. They transposed it down for her - and she still couldn't sustain the line through one of the short extract being performed. So even with the accommodation, she wasn't capable of singing the number. That is not being precious about the score - that is expecting your leading performer to actually be capable of delivering the whole role. And that isn't narrow thinking, that is what you should expect when seeing a major production charging over £100. |
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Post by sagiirl on Jun 3, 2019 14:26:12 GMT
I feel for those that have paid top wack if this show doesn't improve drastically. Know a couple who paid over £300 for their two tickets she is so angry she is hoping they will take the tickets back and she will get a refund. Think there will be a lot of angry people if SS doesn't get her act together.
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Post by shady23 on Jun 3, 2019 14:51:13 GMT
I think people are getting slightly hysterical about the whole thing. They are in rehearsals now. I'm sure it will be fine and paying audiences will go home happy. If not I look forward to hundreds of pages of "I told you so".
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Post by alece10 on Jun 3, 2019 17:35:31 GMT
Someone above said they "feel for people paying top wack"
Please dont feel for me. I am more than happy paying top wack to see Joseph as I know it will be great and Sheridan will be absolutely fine.
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Post by carmella1 on Jun 3, 2019 17:52:02 GMT
All the rehearsals in the world will not changee that they have children playing the brothers. And children trying to kill their brother and then relenting to simply sell him into slavery and it is disgusting.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 3, 2019 18:06:54 GMT
All the rehearsals in the world will not changee that they have children playing the brothers. And children trying to kill their brother and then relenting to simply sell him into slavery and it is disgusting. But think of all the money lewd rubber is saving by not paying adult actors? He's no tory for nothing.... But that aside that clip looks awful, can I sue ITV? |
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Post by Raven on Jun 3, 2019 18:46:41 GMT
All the rehearsals in the world will not changee that they have children playing the brothers. And children trying to kill their brother and then relenting to simply sell him into slavery and it is disgusting. If you look up the website, the brothers are not played by children: www.josephthemusical.com/our-people/cast/ Traditionally in Joseph, the children are used as a kids chorus for songs such as "Close Every Door To Me" and "Any Dream Will Do". |
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Post by danb on Jun 3, 2019 18:49:10 GMT
I think the moral of all of this is to go small with early rehearsal tv slots. One or two people doing something good but simple.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 19:59:51 GMT
All the rehearsals in the world will not changee that they have children playing the brothers. And children trying to kill their brother and then relenting to simply sell him into slavery and it is disgusting. If you look up the website, the brothers are not played by children: www.josephthemusical.com/our-people/cast/ Traditionally in Joseph, the children are used as a kids chorus for songs such as "Close Every Door To Me" and "Any Dream Will Do". If you look up the website, or read back 2 pages of this thread, you will see that there are only 7 brothers on the website. As seen on BGT, it confirmed that the other 4 brothers are played by children. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 20:04:15 GMT
I am more than happy paying top wack to see Joseph as I know it will be great and Sheridan will be absolutely fine. If people are paying top whack for a West End show, shouldn't they expect or deserve something better than fine? |
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Post by Raven on Jun 3, 2019 20:36:57 GMT
If you look up the website, the brothers are not played by children: www.josephthemusical.com/our-people/cast/ Traditionally in Joseph, the children are used as a kids chorus for songs such as "Close Every Door To Me" and "Any Dream Will Do". If you look up the website, or read back 2 pages of this thread, you will see that there are only 7 brothers on the website. As seen on BGT, it confirmed that the other 4 brothers are played by children. My apologies! I did miss this when I was watching the performance on BGT. Curious as to why they have cast four of the brothers as children but nevertheless. |
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Post by horton on Jun 3, 2019 20:40:18 GMT
It makes no sense at all
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Post by Raven on Jun 3, 2019 20:53:24 GMT
From a cost perspective, it seems crazy. Why have the unnecessary expense of casting children when it really isn't an integral part of the show in the first place?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 21:27:16 GMT
Maybe they were going for a literal approach by showing they were all different ages, but seeing as Joseph is the second youngest, it makes no sense, because he's twice their size.
And are they going to have different teams of kids in the role, because the rehearsal time would be ridiculous.
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Post by carmella1 on Jun 4, 2019 0:13:40 GMT
All the rehearsals in the world will not changee that they have children playing the brothers. And children trying to kill their brother and then relenting to simply sell him into slavery and it is disgusting. If you look up the website, the brothers are not played by children: www.josephthemusical.com/our-people/cast/ Traditionally in Joseph, the children are used as a kids chorus for songs such as "Close Every Door To Me" and "Any Dream Will Do". No not all the brothers are played by adults. If you look at the video again you can see as she names them. Judah for one. I have seen both the website and previous productions. I am going by their video. |
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Post by pianowithsam on Jun 4, 2019 19:11:41 GMT
Gallery finally released. Little insight into costumes and opening curtain if you look close enough  Apparently still no creative team though. Rehearsals must be interesting. |
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Post by westended on Jun 4, 2019 19:18:30 GMT
It looks to me as if the COSTUMES on BGT WERE LAST MINUTE!
The background shots of the rehearsal room have the brothers’ costumes and they all look very different from what we saw.
I assume like Six, they weren’t given much notice, hence the cheap-looking costumes, however it seemed as if the Coat was ready in time, perhaps Jac was going to use it in rehearsals?
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Post by xanady on Jun 4, 2019 19:38:06 GMT
Joseph and the not very amazing ad hoc directionless out of control nightmare....? I seriously hope not.As a previous poster mentioned,this show has a wonderful fun score and a fast-moving plot and when done properly is a joyous,energy-driven powerhouse of a show...it is not a joke...we need to be laughing along with the comedy in the show,not laughing AT the show! An inept shambles in the Summer slot at the Palladium with all the wonderful memories of last years’ Summer show would be awful!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 19:46:25 GMT
Gallery finally released. Little insight into costumes and opening curtain if you look close enough Apparently still no creative team though. Rehearsals must be interesting. Oooh, what colour is the curtain? Is it red? Or is it yellow? Green? Brown? Scarlett? Black? Ochre? Peach? Ruby? Olive? Violet? Fawn? Lilac? Gold? Chocolate? Mauve? Cream? Crimson? Siver? Rose? Azure? Lemon? Russet? Grey? Purple? White? Pink? Orange?...or is it blue? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 19:50:30 GMT
It looks to me as if the COSTUMES on BGT WERE LAST MINUTE! The background shots of the rehearsal room have the brothers’ costumes and they all look very different from what we saw. I assume like Six, they weren’t given much notice, hence the cheap-looking costumes, however it seemed as if the Coat was ready in time, perhaps Jac was going to use it in rehearsals? They were never going to use those costumes for the whole show, but they could well be for the mega mix at the end. Though i do hope they're not. |
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Post by pianowithsam on Jun 4, 2019 20:35:33 GMT
Gallery finally released. Little insight into costumes and opening curtain if you look close enough Apparently still no creative team though. Rehearsals must be interesting. Oooh, what colour is the curtain? Is it red? Or is it yellow? Green? Brown? Scarlett? Black? Ochre? Peach? Ruby? Olive? Violet? Fawn? Lilac? Gold? Chocolate? Mauve? Cream? Crimson? Siver? Rose? Azure? Lemon? Russet? Grey? Purple? White? Pink? Orange?...or is it blue? No, silly, it's a dark shade of teal. |
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Post by richey on Jun 4, 2019 20:46:53 GMT
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Post by carmella1 on Jun 5, 2019 17:34:27 GMT
Got the email from TodayTix already. Really selling well off that BGT appearance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 18:14:29 GMT
Got the email from TodayTix already. Really selling well off that BGT appearance. Aren't all West End shows available through TodayTix? Doesn't look like they're discounting. God forbid a show tries to sell tickets! |
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Post by carmella1 on Jun 5, 2019 18:33:08 GMT
But before it opens? It just did not get a bump from the BGT appearance. And by the time it opens it will be discounting. IMO.
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