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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 16:51:22 GMT
1. The last thing I am is upset. 2. You now seem to be over-egging the pudding with the open discussion phrase. 3. Discussion doesn’t need to result in snide remarks directed at others who enjoy something just because you didn’t. You can make a point without discrediting someone else’s. This was clear from my first post. I haven't made any snide remarks and, as was brought up when someone attempted to argue I was "bring down a new musical", I never said I hated this show. I enjoyed some of it alot. I don't know where this mentality that I hated the show has come from? I have issues with one or two aspects themselves, and I have very strong opinion on the behind the scenes nonsense that I've heard has gone on, but the show itself is perfectly fine and an enjoyable night, and if someone got something positive from it, then great!  I’ve never said you hate the show. You do however, love off-stage drama (by your own admission). I’m done with this chat now as you are reading around my words and are missing my original point entirely by bringing other matters into it. |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 16:55:09 GMT
I haven't made any snide remarks and, as was brought up when someone attempted to argue I was "bring down a new musical", I never said I hated this show. I enjoyed some of it alot. I don't know where this mentality that I hated the show has come from? I have issues with one or two aspects themselves, and I have very strong opinion on the behind the scenes nonsense that I've heard has gone on, but the show itself is perfectly fine and an enjoyable night, and if someone got something positive from it, then great! I’ve never said you hate the show. You do however, love off-stage drama (by your own admission). I’m done with this chat now as you are reading around my words and are missing my original point entirely by bringing other matters into it. oh good, were on the same boat with being done with this topic, great. and I completely agree, I love some offstage drama, who doesn't?! 😂 |
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Post by notgettingmarried on Mar 27, 2019 16:56:48 GMT
There is a difference between adding to an already open discussion with your view on the cast/price/whatever and replying to someone who said they enjoyed it with "what show were you watching?!" These are the kind of comments I take issue with. If you have a different opinion that's fine, you're fine to say it. But there seem to be people on here who feel the need to respond to every positive opinion. Even if you did later on say "that's fine", there was no need for the inital response. oh it's that one sentence people are having issues with? Well that specific sentence was intended as a joke that clearly didn't land. I read that as funny and that is how it was intended, so if that didn't work for you then I apologise, it wasn't intended as that. Okay I'm not going to comment after this because as someone else has said you're glding round what we're saying. It isn't solely that one comment on the one post that I take issue with. It's that many people, not just you, seem to find the need to reply to people who liked the show in a negative manner. If you have a genuine question about their take on the show, then fine. But if your reply is just going to consist of "well I didn't like xyz" over and over, then if you don't have anything nice to say, just don't say anything. |
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 27, 2019 16:57:14 GMT
Thank god you came back Dan, theatreboard is a much less entertaining place without you 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 16:59:37 GMT
Thank god you came back Dan, theatreboard is a much less entertaining place without you 🤣 Another controversial opinion. |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 17:02:13 GMT
Thank god you came back Dan, theatreboard is a much less entertaining place without you 🤣 Another controversial opinion. oh finally, something we both agree on, I'm so overrated. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 17:06:10 GMT
Another controversial opinion. oh finally, something we both agree on, I'm so overrated. Please let’s not turn this into another Daniel Johnson thread. |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 17:07:57 GMT
oh finally, something we both agree on, I'm so overrated. Please let’s not turn this into another Daniel Johnson thread. you're the one who said you were done then commented again soooo... you're the one wanting this thread to be about me. Which is very welcome, where's my spotlight?! |
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Post by welsh_tenor on Mar 27, 2019 17:11:02 GMT
oh finally, something we both agree on, I'm so overrated. Please let’s not turn this into another Daniel Johnson thread. The last ‘Daniel Johnson thread’ as you describe it was Dan fighting the corner of being allowed to be recognised as a gay person, where other members of this board were trying to tell us that being gay is a lifestyle choice. But @tom89 please don’t belittle Daniel in that manner who was trying to defend many on this board when the mods wouldn’t! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 17:15:58 GMT
Please let’s not turn this into another Daniel Johnson thread. The last ‘Daniel Johnson thread’ as you describe it was Dan fighting the corner of being allowed to be recognised as a gay person, where other members of this board were trying to tell us that being gay is a lifestyle choice. But @tom89 please don’t belittle Daniel in that manner who was trying to defend many on this board when the mods wouldn’t! Hold on please. I wasn’t referring to any specific thread whatsoever. I take considerable offense to your insinuation that I side with homophobic attitudes. As a gay man myself who has fought and lost friends and family over ignorant attitudes that is not the case. My comment was in reference to many threads which are generally dominated by him, not one specifically. |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 17:19:32 GMT
The last ‘Daniel Johnson thread’ as you describe it was Dan fighting the corner of being allowed to be recognised as a gay person, where other members of this board were trying to tell us that being gay is a lifestyle choice. But @tom89 please don’t belittle Daniel in that manner who was trying to defend many on this board when the mods wouldn’t! Hold on please. I wasn’t referring to any specific thread whatsoever. I take considerable offense to your insinuation that I side with homophobic attitudes. As a gay man myself who has fought and lost friends and family over ignorant attitudes that is not the case. My comment was in reference to many threads which are generally dominated by him, not one specifically. is there anything wrong with me talking alot on this board? Who am I hurting by just commenting on loads of stuff or having discussions with people on here? If you want me to stop commenting on something I'm passionate about, that's fine, it won't stop me doing so, but that's fine if that is your opinion. |
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Post by welsh_tenor on Mar 27, 2019 17:24:38 GMT
@tom89 have I have spoken and I’m updating my post to remove the original post.
I didn’t write it as it was read so I apologise to @tom89.
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Post by sparky5000 on Mar 27, 2019 17:54:37 GMT
I think this may have got lost in the last few pages 😄 so for anyone interested here’s a cute “It Only Takes A Taste” Ticketmaster HQ performance by David and Katharine ❤️
Oh and this fun Adelphi BTS video with Marisha, Laura and Katharine also popped up. Not sure if ever posted .....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 18:53:46 GMT
oh finally, something we both agree on, I'm so overrated. Please let’s not turn this into another Daniel Johnson thread. Let's also not turn it into an anti-Daniel Johnson thread either. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 19:10:36 GMT
Really sorry to have inadvertently caused a bit of a barney on this thread earlier today.Professionally,I have had great experience of how mental and physical abusers operate in supposedly loving partnerships and the reason I saw this show as life-affirming was because of how Earl tries to manipulate and bully Jenna and how she resists with resilience and inner-strength.Obviously we are not talking high-brow social issues Drama here,but I think that the message is strong and deserves to be heard.As a long-time lurker before becoming a member,I always respected Tom and Dan’s fervent enthusiasm for theatre on this board and the last thing I would want to do is accidentally cause a rift between them.Theatreboard is a wonderfully diverse blend of opinions and long may it continue to be.I think that the old adage from Voltaire (para-phrased) is relevant here...I may strongly disagree with your opinions, but I will fight to my last breath to defend your right to express them.
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Post by Dr Tom on Mar 27, 2019 19:26:13 GMT
I fear my review will be lost in the chat, but I managed to time being in central London well enough to day seat to for the matinee.
Arrived at 9:50, 12th in the queue, 4 behind. The queue moved quite slowly. From what I can tell, they sold more for the matinee and there were regulars buying both shows.
Ended up with Row A Stalls, near the end. Excellent view as three Row AA seats in front were empty (and front row isn’t perfect due to the high stage).
The two levels that were open were fairly full.
I’ve seen this before in New York, where I found it difficult to warm to. I enjoyed this more close up, but it still doesn’t quite work for me. Have to say, KMP, who I remember from American Idol, was excellent vocally. Despite the other comments, I didn’t spot a weak link in the cast. Nothing wrong with having lighter roles to break things up.
Unlike when I saw it in New York, there was no audience reaction to Jenna leaving her husband.
Glad to have seen this, just in case it does close. I hope it survives longer, the Broadway production has run on discounts and stunt casting for years and this is a small cast, small band show. I might go back if there’s a new lead and I can get another decent ticket deal, but I’m probably not the target audience. Not really sure who the target audience in the UK is.
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 19:27:57 GMT
@alltheworld thank you for your kind words, and don't feel the need to apologise, you needn't know when we initially chatted. Now let's move this chat on with Dr Tom's review and be done with it. |
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Post by sparky5000 on Mar 27, 2019 19:50:26 GMT
I fear my review will be lost in the chat, but I managed to time being in central London well enough to day seat to for the matinee. Arrived at 9:50, 12th in the queue, 4 behind. The queue moved quite slowly. From what I can tell, they sold more for the matinee and there were regulars buying both shows. Ended up with Row A Stalls, near the end. Excellent view as three Row AA seats in front were empty (and front row isn’t perfect due to the high stage). The two levels that were open were fairly full. I’ve seen this before in New York, where I found it difficult to warm to. I enjoyed this more close up, but it still doesn’t quite work for me. Have to say, KMP, who I remember from American Idol, was excellent vocally. Despite the other comments, I didn’t spot a weak link in the cast. Nothing wrong with having lighter roles to break things up. Unlike when I saw it in New York, there was no audience reaction to Jenna leaving her husband. Glad to have seen this, just in case it does close. I hope it survives longer, the Broadway production has run on discounts and stunt casting for years and this is a small cast, small band show. I might go back if there’s a new lead and I can get another decent ticket deal, but I’m probably not the target audience. Not really sure who the target audience in the UK is. I’ve found the different reactions to the show in nyc and broadway really interesting. Like you say, the times I’ve seen it here West End audiences are def more restrained when Jenna tells Earl to do one, and yet I’ve found that they react much more raucously to the naughtier bits of the show, like the Bad Idea reprise especially! Not sure what this says about us! 🤣 The audiences have been really receptive both sides of the pond. |
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Post by showtoones on Mar 27, 2019 20:23:37 GMT
Please let’s not turn this into another Daniel Johnson thread. Let's also not turn it into an anti-Daniel Johnson thread either. Let's turn this into a Jane McDonald appreciation thread instead!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 20:24:43 GMT
Let's also not turn it into an anti-Daniel Johnson thread either. Let's turn this into a Jane McDonald appreciation thread instead! Every thread is a Jane McDonald appreciation thread with a bit of effort. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 27, 2019 21:51:52 GMT
I can see Jane McDonald being bought in to replace Marisha W.. that would save the show.
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Post by danb on Mar 27, 2019 21:58:32 GMT
I can see Jane McDonald being bought in to replace Marisha W.. that would save the show. Or old Joe...”Take It From An Old Gal” segues into OMD’s ‘Sailing On The Seven Seas’. They’ve already given approval. |
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Post by latefortheoverture on Mar 27, 2019 22:28:39 GMT
If they had old Josie on Broadway they could easily replicate it here.
With Jane McDonald; she'd get this show back on its feet....
On second thoughts she would make a good Jenna
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Post by JJShaw on Mar 27, 2019 23:57:42 GMT
Saw the matinee:
KMP was great, vocally really good and gave a very natural nuanced performance
Marisha (Becky) had some nice moments but often was too much for me and didnt feel like a normal human being. Also how come they took her song up? (not a critisism anywhere she was vocally great im just curious?)
Dawn (cant remember the actresses name my apologies!) on the other hand managed to do what Marisha couldnt quite do which was play a caricature character with some realism, i really enjoyed her performance!
The men were all rather good, Cal, Joe and Earl were all great and I enjoyed them all. Dr. Pomatter was a tad annoying and i didnt quite feel his chemistry with KMP but he was nice.
Such a shame that Jack McBayer is basically playing Kenith from 30 Rock which does work but it was a bummer as im such a fan of his but wanted to see a little versatility. Also I blame the MD for not working with him to hide his vocal flaws, he can carry a tune on the whole but his song could easily be more spoke-sung to disguise his weaknesses.
Overall i still enjoyed the show (i was spoilt and saw the obc in new york), my view from N28 was amazing, the overhang wasnt an issue at all and the rake was perfect. if you can grab it for £20 do it!
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 28, 2019 0:28:37 GMT
Yes, Jane McDonald would have a whole new take on the show!
"You call these pies? By eck not in Wakefield love! Give me a good steak n kidney any day oft week!"
"Where the eck is that pigeon pie I baked earlier?"
"I could have baked all night, I could have baked all night and still have baked some more....."
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