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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 13:22:14 GMT
Anyone who starts an arguement for Waitress' problems with the cast not being on of the issues, I am immediately checking out. Because of you can't see that Jack McBrayer as a problem with this production, I can't help you my friend.
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Post by bengal73 on Mar 27, 2019 13:23:46 GMT
Can someone remind me where this definitive closure chatter came from please? Not seen any. Just speculative opinion based stuff on here. That's what forums are for and I don't class that as definitive unless I have missed some posts |
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Post by anthem on Mar 27, 2019 13:46:37 GMT
Anyone who starts an arguement for Waitress' problems with the cast not being on of the issues, I am immediately checking out. Because of you can't see that Jack McBrayer as a problem with this production, I can't help you my friend. Jack is a ‘name’ who presumably shifts some tickets. He can’t sing but he acts the part well. I can’t see how his casting would have a negative impact in terms of the show’s performance? Having a trained West End performer in the role (which is relatively small) wouldn’t make much difference to ticket sales surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 13:53:21 GMT
Let’s all keep telling everyone we know about this wonderful life-affirming show and try and generate word of mouth through social media etc.The marketing team seem lacklustre at best,so we all need to spread the word as much as possible.Feels a bit like trying to bail out a sinking ship with a sieve admittedly.
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 14:02:32 GMT
Let’s all keep telling everyone we know about this wonderful life-affirming show and try and generate word of mouth through social media etc.The marketing team seem lacklustre at best,so we all need to spread the word as much as possible.Feels a bit like trying to bail out a sinking ship with a sieve admittedly. life-affirming? what show did you see? I liked the show but I didn't get that at all from the show, even the positive parts of the show. It had the potential there for that! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 14:04:22 GMT
Resilience and inner -strength is life-affirming for me personally.
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 14:05:13 GMT
Resilience and inner -strength is life-affirming for me personally. well I'm glad you got that from the show then!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 14:16:59 GMT
Anyone who starts an arguement for Waitress' problems with the cast not being on of the issues, I am immediately checking out. Because of you can't see that Jack McBrayer as a problem with this production, I can't help you my friend. Beg to disagree am afraid. I personally thought he was awful. But the night I went, I was surrounded by waves of people in peels of hysteria every time he did anything. And Joe Public gave him the biggest cheer of the evening. And it is Joe that leads to a show living or dying; not us..... |
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Post by sparky5000 on Mar 27, 2019 14:17:00 GMT
Anyone who starts an arguement for Waitress' problems with the cast not being on of the issues, I am immediately checking out. Because of you can't see that Jack McBrayer as a problem with this production, I can't help you my friend. Jack is a ‘name’ who presumably shifts some tickets. He can’t sing but he acts the part well. I can’t see how his casting would have a negative impact in terms of the show’s performance? Having a trained West End performer in the role (which is relatively small) wouldn’t make much difference to ticket sales surely? This! I was one who found Jack’s singing terrible, but he is still funny (although I didn’t think he was a patch on Chris Fitzgerald or Adam Shapiro) and the audience absolutely ate him up the 3x I’ve seen the show. If anything Jack shifts more tickets than a West End performer only known to real West End stans. Unless Waitress was going to go all out and cast a super famous celebrity who could sell a heck of a lot of tickets on their name alone (which I think was never really likely - unless they’d been pursuing Sheridan Smith as Jenna idk?) then imo the casting of this show hasn’t negatively impacted this show. It’s just that it hasn’t had the additional benefit of selling extra tickets because of a big star name. Heck, even the 3 star reviews like Michael Billington in the Guardian and TimeOut for example, cite the casting as one of the reasons to go see the show! www.theguardian.com/stage/2019/mar/07/waitress-review-adelphi-london-cook-fling-doctor-broadway-musicalwww.timeout.com/london/theatre/waitress-review |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 14:20:22 GMT
I actually found it really sad that everyone loved the Ogie character or Jack, whichever you prefer. Because whilst Jack (the actor) was funny, he wasn't funny because of the show, he was doing what he has done in other roles before. It was almost like he was in a completely different show.
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Post by jgblunners on Mar 27, 2019 14:56:39 GMT
I suspect it's also been hurt by opening around the same time as 9 to 5 - I reckon they've got a not insignificant audience overlap and 9 to 5 is the more recognisable brand with more recognisable (to the British public, anyway) performers in it.
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Post by sparky5000 on Mar 27, 2019 15:40:15 GMT
Here’s a Ticketmaster HQ video of David and Katharine performing a live acoustic “It Only Takes a Taste”! ❤️ Dang theyre a cute looking fictional couple! 😄😍
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Post by danb on Mar 27, 2019 15:44:48 GMT
Can someone remind me where this definitive closure chatter came from please? Not seen any. Just speculative opinion based stuff on here. That's what forums are for and I don't class that as definitive unless I have missed some posts Just thought I’d missed a closing notice or a piece of “insider” gossip, the way everyone was talking. Y’know in that way that theatre message board members ‘stating speculation as fact’ do. It probably does need a Royal Variety type performance or maybe on the BGT finals week? Get it out there a bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 16:05:35 GMT
Let’s all keep telling everyone we know about this wonderful life-affirming show and try and generate word of mouth through social media etc.The marketing team seem lacklustre at best,so we all need to spread the word as much as possible.Feels a bit like trying to bail out a sinking ship with a sieve admittedly. life-affirming? what show did you see? I liked the show but I didn't get that at all from the show, even the positive parts of the show. It had the potential there for that! This type of remark adds to the impression that people are repeatedly making their points to drown out the positivity with negativity. Shock horror - you took away something different from the show - that’s grand, but it’s unnecessary to try and cancel them out with undermining comments like “what show did you see?” |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 16:07:55 GMT
life-affirming? what show did you see? I liked the show but I didn't get that at all from the show, even the positive parts of the show. It had the potential there for that! This type of remark adds to the impression that people are repeatedly making their points to drown out the positivity with negativity. Shock horror - you took away something different from the show - that’s grand, but it’s unnecessary to try and cancel them out with undermining comments like “what show did you see?” so, when the other member replied you clearly chose to brush over my response which the original poster liked so here it is for you: "well I'm glad you got that from the show then! " |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 16:15:16 GMT
This type of remark adds to the impression that people are repeatedly making their points to drown out the positivity with negativity. Shock horror - you took away something different from the show - that’s grand, but it’s unnecessary to try and cancel them out with undermining comments like “what show did you see?” so, when the other member replied you clearly chose to brush over my response which the original poster liked so here it is for you: "well I'm glad you got that from the show then! " I honestly find it surprising that the above reply was meant sincerely and without sarcasm. |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 16:16:45 GMT
so, when the other member replied you clearly chose to brush over my response which the original poster liked so here it is for you: "well I'm glad you got that from the show then! " I honestly find it surprising that the above reply was meant sincerely and without sarcasm. you can interpret it how you want, that's fine. We all have different interpretations and that's fine. I know how I meant it, I hope the person who I was chatting to understands how I meant it too. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 16:19:51 GMT
I honestly find it surprising that the above reply was meant sincerely and without sarcasm. you can interpret it how you want, that's fine. We all have different interpretations and that's fine. I know how I meant it, I hope the person who I was chatting to understands how I meant it too. You may continue pretending if that helps you, but I’m not convinced all the same. My original point was not about that anyway. That’s the part you’ve brushed over. |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 16:28:57 GMT
you can interpret it how you want, that's fine. We all have different interpretations and that's fine. I know how I meant it, I hope the person who I was chatting to understands how I meant it too. You may continue pretending if that helps you, but I’m not convinced all the same. My original point was not about that anyway. That’s the part you’ve brushed over. it's OK for you to not be convinced, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. As for your initial point, I understand what you mean about negatively over the show and it coming across like people are trying to brush over the positively etc, but I think that some are mad about the show and some are rightly frustrated about the way the show has been handled behind the scenes. And rightly so, that is their opinion and on a discussion board, other people's take aways from a show should be openly discussed. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 16:34:18 GMT
You may continue pretending if that helps you, but I’m not convinced all the same. My original point was not about that anyway. That’s the part you’ve brushed over. it's OK for you to not be convinced, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. As for your initial point, I understand what you mean about negatively over the show and it coming across like people are trying to brush over the positively etc, but I think that some are mad about the show and some are rightly frustrated about the way the show has been handled behind the scenes. And rightly so, that is their opinion and on a discussion board, other people's take aways from a show should be openly discussed. You’ve missed it. Never mind. Whether you’re bothered or not isn’t my concern either. |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 16:35:58 GMT
it's OK for you to not be convinced, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. As for your initial point, I understand what you mean about negatively over the show and it coming across like people are trying to brush over the positively etc, but I think that some are mad about the show and some are rightly frustrated about the way the show has been handled behind the scenes. And rightly so, that is their opinion and on a discussion board, other people's take aways from a show should be openly discussed. You’ve missed it. Never mind. Well if you have something to say about being upset with how some are treating this show, please feel free to express your opinion because I'd rather have an open discussion than just cut it off and leave anyone frustrated. If I've misinterpreted what you've said, please clarify. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 16:44:29 GMT
You’ve missed it. Never mind. Well if you have something to say about being upset with how some are treating this show, please feel free to express your opinion because I'd rather have an open discussion than just cut it off and leave anyone frustrated. If I've misinterpreted what you've said, please clarify. 1. The last thing I am is upset. 2. You now seem to be over-egging the pudding with the open discussion phrase. 3. Discussion doesn’t need to result in snide remarks directed at others who enjoy something just because you didn’t. You can make a point without discrediting someone else’s. This was clear from my first post. |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 16:47:17 GMT
Well if you have something to say about being upset with how some are treating this show, please feel free to express your opinion because I'd rather have an open discussion than just cut it off and leave anyone frustrated. If I've misinterpreted what you've said, please clarify. 1. The last thing I am is upset. 2. You now seem to be over-egging the pudding with the open discussion phrase. 3. Discussion doesn’t need to result in snide remarks directed at others who enjoy something just because you didn’t. You can make a point without discrediting someone else’s. This was clear from my first post. I haven't made any snide remarks and, as was brought up when someone attempted to argue I was "bring down a new musical", I never said I hated this show. I enjoyed some of it alot. I don't know where this mentality that I hated the show has come from? I have issues with one or two aspects themselves, and I have very strong opinion on the behind the scenes nonsense that I've heard has gone on, but the show itself is perfectly fine and an enjoyable night, and if someone got something positive from it, then great! |
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Post by notgettingmarried on Mar 27, 2019 16:49:13 GMT
You’ve missed it. Never mind. Well if you have something to say about being upset with how some are treating this show, please feel free to express your opinion because I'd rather have an open discussion than just cut it off and leave anyone frustrated. If I've misinterpreted what you've said, please clarify. There is a difference between adding to an already open discussion with your view on the cast/price/whatever and replying to someone who said they enjoyed it with "what show were you watching?!" These are the kind of comments I take issue with. If you have a different opinion that's fine, you're fine to say it. But there seem to be people on here who feel the need to respond to every positive opinion. If it was asking a particular question like "what did you think if xyz" or even "you took that in a different way to me..what made you see it in that way" fair. But the replies haven't been like that. Even if you did later on say "that's fine", there was no need for the inital response. |
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Post by danieljohnson14 on Mar 27, 2019 16:51:09 GMT
Well if you have something to say about being upset with how some are treating this show, please feel free to express your opinion because I'd rather have an open discussion than just cut it off and leave anyone frustrated. If I've misinterpreted what you've said, please clarify. There is a difference between adding to an already open discussion with your view on the cast/price/whatever and replying to someone who said they enjoyed it with "what show were you watching?!" These are the kind of comments I take issue with. If you have a different opinion that's fine, you're fine to say it. But there seem to be people on here who feel the need to respond to every positive opinion. Even if you did later on say "that's fine", there was no need for the inital response. oh it's that one sentence people are having issues with? Well that specific sentence was intended as a joke that clearly didn't land. I read that as funny and that is how it was intended, so if that didn't work for you then I apologise, it wasn't intended as that. |
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