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Post by shelbee on Feb 20, 2019 21:33:35 GMT
I don't think her plan was to do experimental theatre just for the people of the UK. Whyever not? Lots of famous actors have done just that over the years - and in smaller theatres than the Dorfman/NT, too. Sometimes not many people getting to see it is part of the appeal. It allows a certain freedom to cut loose and try something different. There's a difference between many people not seeing and only allowing UK residents to see it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 21:35:13 GMT
Look I know Brexit is an utter sh*t show but we haven’t built a wall around the NT just yet...
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Post by shelbee on Feb 20, 2019 21:39:48 GMT
I will be sufficiently torturing Cate Blanchett tonight by shouting out "shelbee!" at regular intervals. There's no interval so she's just going to have to lump it. Are you a relative of hers or is she just paying you defend her on message boards?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 22:56:25 GMT
I will be sufficiently torturing Cate Blanchett tonight by shouting out "shelbee!" at regular intervals. There's no interval so she's just going to have to lump it. Are you a relative of hers or is she just paying you defend her on message boards? Je suis Cate. Cobber.
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Post by andrew on Feb 20, 2019 23:26:25 GMT
Whole bunch of tickets there for this weekend right now. I'm working alas, and also not sure if it's worth forty-odd quid.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:27:18 GMT
Our dear poster on this thread has only ever posted in this thread (well, one post in the Academy Awards thread.) I can’t believe that I actually went and read all their posts, but basically they are a CB fan who I think hasn’t got tickets because they don’t live in the UK and they are annoyed about this.
So attempting to discuss Mitchell/Crimp, theatre economics and the NT is not interesting to them. They just want to grind their axe about Cate.
Which I believe is what she does to Stephen Dillane in this play, right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:28:05 GMT
Whole bunch of tickets there for this weekend right now. I'm working alas, and also not sure if it's worth forty-odd quid. i’m going to the Saturday matinee so you can join me for a Seedlip in the bar beforehand!
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Post by callum on Feb 20, 2019 23:39:52 GMT
Caught this on Saturday and thought it was a hoot - thought Cate and the whole team did an excellent job! Just don't ask me to explain it!
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Post by RedRose on Feb 21, 2019 7:55:38 GMT
Look I know Brexit is an utter sh*t show but we haven’t built a wall around the NT just yet... The Ballot was only for UK residents.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 8:18:30 GMT
Look I know Brexit is an utter sh*t show but we haven’t built a wall around the NT just yet... The Ballot was only for UK residents. It’s early and I genuinely thought “well of course Brexit was” when I read that. Look I know it wasn’t the person I quoted who said it, so apologies here. But really I think people need a bit of perspective here. It’s a play. That’s all. With an actress. We have many of both. The one in question will do theatre again and certainly doesn’t need anyone here managing her career and what she should and shouldn’t do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 9:09:14 GMT
I can't believe people are SO hung up about the ballot for this basically-fine-but-not-exactly-earth-shattering play when the real biggest crime the NT has committed since RuNo took over was only running their incredible production of Pericles for a mere three performances, and those so close together that there simply wasn't any opportunity to word-of-mouth it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 9:19:20 GMT
I can't believe people are SO hung up about the ballot for this basically-fine-but-not-exactly-earth-shattering play when the real biggest crime the NT has committed since RuNo took over was only running their incredible production of Pericles for a mere three performances, and those so close together that there simply wasn't any opportunity to word-of-mouth it. What my friend said. If I ever sit down with old Rufus this is top of my list of complaints. Actually other than “more beard based roles for Roger” and the provisionally titled “James McArdle bi annual season” that’s actually the list right now.
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Post by mathh on Feb 21, 2019 9:25:28 GMT
Well a lot of people go to see plays if there is actors they really like in them even though they have no idea the play is about.. I do and I've seen a few in the last 4 years.(I still don't know what to think about Dr Faustus) So I understand the frustration and I was a bit upset when I didn't win the ballot. But in a way... I got returns tickets and the price is OK when for example tickets for All about eve are 4 times the price now. Cate Blanchett will probably come back, in another play, and everybody will be happy... Is the play that bad though? I read a few reviews I'm a bit scared for Saturday
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Post by NeilVHughes on Feb 21, 2019 9:27:58 GMT
Pericles was an absolute delight, the enthusiasm and energy of all on stage was intoxicating and the greatest praise I can give is that I didn't mind the singing, deserved a longer run but as most of the cast were amateurs would they have been able to free up the time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 9:53:56 GMT
Well. If you missed out on the ballot then you need not worry because you really didn't miss much. Except for Stephen Dillane in some scanties, a few bits of violence, a surprising amount of blood, a load of old nonsense about some cherries and La Blanchett lolling about the stage with a strap-on dildo ready to penetrate anything that moves via the, ahem, tradesman's entrance.
It's really all a bit same-old, same-old once you've got past the first scene or two and it's all very much variations on a theme - power, sex, control and suspenders - so much so that it does get a little dull and my mind wandered a little to begin to wonder with thoughts like, how did they manage to keep the garage so clean? Did Cate really lube up the dildo with hand sanitiser? It's a double garage, where is the other car? How did the karaoke machine work when it wasn't plugged in? And more importantly, what happened to the cherries? I got a little peckish half way in. As did Cate later in the play. Fnar.
Stephen Dillane gets a nice scene where he talks about buying said cherries which is fun and La Blanchett is absolutely smashing throughout (she gets a great 'mansplaining' scene). It's like she had a checklist of "things in my acting range" and managed to squeeze all of them into the play like a Greatest Hits album and it's fun to hear some words slip out where she sounds really Australian as opposed to her normal, more clipped accent.
One final thing though. Who keeps a dildo in the garage? Isn't that a little unhygienic? I mean, I know she was slathering on the hand sanitiser like she was buttering up a crumble dish but that's going to sting no?
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Post by mathh on Feb 21, 2019 9:58:48 GMT
You know.. I really want to see it now, because of your last part about dildo in a garage I'm not gonna lie, I've had a crush on Cate Blanchett for ages, ha I loved Lord of the rings... I'm sure I'll like it. I have to, I spend way to much money in it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 10:09:59 GMT
I'm not gonna lie, I've had a crush on Cate Blanchett for ages, ha I loved Lord of the rings... I'm sure I'll like it. I have to, I spend way to much money in it She's not looking her most glamorous "Cate Blanchett" in this to be fair but she's still traffic-stoppingly beautiful and you just can't hide that, even when it's under a nasty wig and a cheap wedding dress. I'm surprised anyone will go near her with those cheekbones though just in case she slices them open.
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Post by mathh on Feb 21, 2019 10:21:16 GMT
It's not just for her looks and beauty, I really like her as an actress. My passion for theatre is quite new (as in France, only rich parisians go to theatre and if you say you like it you are a snob. It's not very popular and not as affordable and easy to go than in the UK), so I love discovering different kind of plays and seeing actors I used to see in films.
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Post by shelbee on Feb 21, 2019 11:15:35 GMT
Our dear poster on this thread has only ever posted in this thread (well, one post in the Academy Awards thread.) I can’t believe that I actually went and read all their posts, but basically they are a CB fan who I think hasn’t got tickets because they don’t live in the UK and they are annoyed about this. So attempting to discuss Mitchell/Crimp, theatre economics and the NT is not interesting to them. They just want to grind their axe about Cate. Which I believe is what she does to Stephen Dillane in this play, right? Talking about the business aspect of plays is a no-no, because people don't understand it??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 11:27:51 GMT
No, happysooz said that it wasn't interesting to you, not that you didn't understand it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 12:02:34 GMT
There are a large number of people on this forum who actually work in the theatre so I'm pretty sure they understand the business aspects of the theatre and producing a play, they just don't perhaps agree with you on this occasion. It's really a rather lazy response to say that someone who doesn't agree or has a different point of view simply "doesn't understand" something. I've learned a lot from other people on this board like where to sit at the theatre (@theatremonkey), The North ( TallPaul), how to stalk the stars of 'Dreamgirls' on the street ( danieljohnson14), the size of Andrew Garfield's hair (@emicardiff), the fact that women actually get to vote nowadays (@baemax), how to look hot at the theatre ( couldileaveyou), how to leave at the interval (@parsley, God rest his soul) and so much more besides from so many other people. Granted, I still know more than all of them put together but it's still nice to learn something new. You never stop learning until you die. Try it, you might like it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 12:08:38 GMT
I am quite the expert on the volume of Garf's hair.
Meanwhile, I was just in a training session talking about 'penetration' levels and I blame this thread entirely for my childish snicker. And Cate's dildo.
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Post by TallPaul on Feb 21, 2019 13:11:33 GMT
I've got a namecheck from @ryan, in a thread about Cate Blanchett. Nothing, but nothing, will ever top that. 🙂
To celebrate, I'm going to have chitterlings for tea, washed down with a pint, or two, of Timothy Taylor's Landlord.
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Post by shelbee on Feb 21, 2019 13:51:29 GMT
There are a large number of people on this forum who actually work in the theatre so I'm pretty sure they understand the business aspects of the theatre and producing a play, they just don't perhaps agree with you on this occasion. It's really a rather lazy response to say that someone who doesn't agree or has a different point of view simply "doesn't understand" something. I've learned a lot from other people on this board like where to sit at the theatre (@theatremonkey ), The North ( TallPaul ), how to stalk the stars of 'Dreamgirls' on the street ( danieljohnson14 ), the size of Andrew Garfield's hair (@emicardiff ), the fact that women actually get to vote nowadays (@baemax ), how to look hot at the theatre ( couldileaveyou ), how to leave at the interval (@parsley, God rest his soul) and so much more besides from so many other people. Granted, I still know more than all of them put together but it's still nice to learn something new. You never stop learning until you die. Try it, you might like it. Are you a producer? I don't get what the over-protectiveness of this play is. It's an interesting subject. Cate Blanchett opted to do this play instead of All About of Eve. It was not accessible to people outside the UK. There had to be a bigger plan than just the "experience". It shouldn't be that hard to fathom...maybe...just maybe...they used the National Theatre to gain support....shocking!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 13:56:48 GMT
Yes I am. Hot air and camp old nonsense generally.
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