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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 15:24:56 GMT
We should also note that we haven't yet had announcements for other theatres like the Savoy and Garrick and rumoured closings of the likes of Drury Lane and Adelphi, so its a bit early to be predicting Oliviers just yet.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 8, 2018 16:05:31 GMT
So what could be nominated next year? Come From Away Strictly Ballroom Tina Turner - The Musical Heathers Fun Home Sylvia Twelfth Night Hadestown The 2019 seems to be a very weak year for best musical, Come From Away has a great chance of winning next year. it will go head to head with Fun Home. Never said it didn't have a great chance of winning, probably does. I just said it may be pushing it a tad on its eligability date dependant on the date they open. Don't disagree with you, but timing is everything in theatre, i'm just making a case that if they squeeze in for next years Oliviers they have a good chance of winning. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 8, 2018 16:27:43 GMT
If we didn’t have premature speculation we wouldn’t have a forum!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 16:33:01 GMT
I’d like to Dreamcast David Hunter as Chad Kimball’s Kevin. Or Bradley Judge! Yum. Claire Moore for Bula too. Sarah Harding as one of the trees.
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Post by david on Jun 8, 2018 16:33:31 GMT
If we didn’t have premature speculation we wouldn’t have a forum! No one likes to suffer from premature speculation. It can be so embarrassing! |
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Post by Mark on Jun 8, 2018 16:54:42 GMT
I’d like to Dreamcast David Hunter as Chad Kimball’s Kevin. Or Bradley Judge! Yum. Claire Moore for Bula too. Sarah Harding as one of the trees. Would love to see some of the “girls” in this. Claire Moore or Machin would be great for Beulah Rachel Tucker for Beverley? Agree David Hunter would be a great Kevin |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 17:13:33 GMT
Haven’t heard much of this show at all before today
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 17:17:28 GMT
This is great news!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 21:19:52 GMT
No one likes to suffer from premature speculation. It can be so embarrassing! I once came across a chap who wasn’t able to speculate at all. Spent a very, very long evening with him. That was no fun, believe me... |
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Post by musicalmarge on Jun 9, 2018 4:09:35 GMT
Come From Away will win every award going. It’s incredible, real. raw, smart, about thousands of people who died and millions who were affected (including those on a tiny Canadian Island!)
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Post by zak97 on Jun 9, 2018 18:24:39 GMT
Josie Walker, Jenna Russell and Joanna Riding strike me as three ladies who should be contenders to star in this.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jun 10, 2018 8:06:42 GMT
Josie Walker, Jenna Russell and Joanna Riding strike me as three ladies who should be contenders to star in this. I hope they cast complete unknowns or bring the Broadway leads. The whole reason why this piece works is because the actors feel and look like everyday people. It’s real and raw and in my opinion would be better without any of the names mentioned above. |
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Post by tommy123 on Jun 10, 2018 9:05:21 GMT
Josie Walker, Jenna Russell and Joanna Riding strike me as three ladies who should be contenders to star in this. I hope they cast complete unknowns or bring the Broadway leads. The whole reason why this piece works is because the actors feel and look like everyday people. It’s real and raw and in my opinion would be better without any of the names mentioned above. To most though, these wouldn’t be names. Apart from maybe Jenna Russell thanks to EastEnders. Either way - I can’t wait to see this! Hoped to see it on Broadway but never had the chance! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 9:10:14 GMT
Josie Walker, Jenna Russell and Joanna Riding strike me as three ladies who should be contenders to star in this. I hope they cast complete unknowns or bring the Broadway leads. The whole reason why this piece works is because the actors feel and look like everyday people. It’s real and raw and in my opinion would be better without any of the names mentioned above. For once, I do agree - partly - with Marge here. Although I wouldn’t say it’s a necessity, many of the OBC has enjoyed healthy careers on the stage before Come From Away, and those who follow the likes of actors in theatre would already be familiar with the likes of Caeser Samayoa and Chad Kimball. If you were to mention the names Josie Walker or Joanna Riding to Karen in HR I doubt she’d have a clue who they were either. They’re hardly Elaine Paige or Alfie Boe. |
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Post by alece10 on Jun 10, 2018 9:38:15 GMT
I will probably be struck off the board for saying this but I sampled the OBC just now on I tunes and I really didn't like the music. There was one song that was a bit Dolly Partonish which I quite liked but the rest did nothing for me. Probably I would think differently if I saw the show and heard the music in context. But unless there are people in it I really want to see then I will give it a miss until the offers start coming in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 10:42:49 GMT
I will probably be struck off the board for saying this but I sampled the OBC just now on I tunes and I really didn't like the music. There was one song that was a bit Dolly Partonish which I quite liked but the rest did nothing for me. Probably I would think differently if I saw the show and heard the music in context. But unless there are people in it I really want to see then I will give it a miss until the offers start coming in. Completely agree with you. I get the emotion and the sentiment of the show of course, and it is an incredible story of humanity at it's best. BUT, I have the CD, have listened twice, and literally have no interest in listening again (same with Evan Hansen and Waitress TBO). Found the music bland and forgettable. Likewise I would be interested in seeing this based on others positive experiences, but only when the deals come in. Deffo won't be forking out £75.... I guess opening in January and going immediately into the GILT offers unlikely.... |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 10, 2018 15:26:35 GMT
The recording presses buttons in me that very few can do - it makes me cry. I find it so moving.
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Post by Mark on Jun 10, 2018 16:27:27 GMT
I saw the show again last night on Broadway, it’s just outstanding and really hits your emotions. The cast will make or break this. So glad we are getting something so fresh in London, I just pray it does well.
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Post by viserys on Jun 10, 2018 18:02:01 GMT
I saw the show again last night on Broadway, it’s just outstanding and really hits your emotions. The cast will make or break this. So glad we are getting something so fresh in London, I just pray it does well.
I am sure it will... everyone who's old enough (gah I can't believe I have to say this but it IS 17 years ago now...) remembers 9/11 well, what they were doing when they heard the news and the aftermath that followed... and I think the show brings home in some lovely little way how people rallied and stuck together and supported each other. Something about basic human kindness that's just deeply touching.
And while I agree the music isn't calling to be played on repeat, it supports the show perfectly well. And last not least, this is (for me) a truly uncommercial work of the heart and not one of these "let's milk a franchise" things, where lame songs are just thrown at an existing movie or someone's biography is turned into a jukebox musical and I think it's that heart that shines through.
I haven't seen it live yet, but I will definitely support the show and book a ticket when they go on sale.
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Post by gra on Jun 10, 2018 19:04:35 GMT
I worry that this may not do well.
The location of the Phoenix and the lack of any general audience awareness of the musical means that the marketing will have to be aggressive.
Hope I'm wrong, but the average theatregoer has little awareness of Broadway.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 19:47:44 GMT
I really like the idea of a new musical in the West End, and the Phoenix definitely needs something a bit special to make it rise from obscurity but... the show’s title... it doesn’t make sense, does it? I’m sure it will, if you go and see it, but it doesn’t exactly let an audience in. And then the subject matter... Yes, 9/11 affected us all, but it’s something that really ‘belongs’ to New York, and I wonder if that’s why it’s playing to packed houses there. I think I’d feel it had more resonance if I saw it on Broadway rather than just off Charing Cross Road.
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Post by waybeyondblue on Jun 10, 2018 20:24:15 GMT
I really like the idea of a new musical in the West End, and the Phoenix definitely needs something a bit special to make it rise from obscurity but... the show’s title... it doesn’t make sense, does it? I’m sure it will, if you go and see it, but it doesn’t exactly let an audience in. And then the subject matter... Yes, 9/11 affected us all, but it’s something that really ‘belongs’ to New York, and I wonder if that’s why it’s playing to packed houses there. I think I’d feel it had more resonance if I saw it on Broadway rather than just off Charing Cross Road. Yep, much better to have a clear title such as The Voice of the Turtle. Whilst we’re at it let’s assign ownership to the poor sods who copped for it locally. Greatly relieved I’m not in Manchester or Warrington or Birmingham or near any narcissist. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 9:39:43 GMT
With it opening in February I believe it should just make the cut off for the Olivier Awards next year. So what could be nominated next year? Come From Away Strictly Ballroom Tina Turner - The Musical Heathers Fun Home Sylvia Twelfth Night Hadestown I read a while ago it has to of done at least 30 performances before the cut off to be Olivier eligable. So it is going to be very on the line if it does make eligability. The 2019 seems to be a very weak year for best musical, Come From Away has a great chance of winning next year. it will go head to head with Fun Home. Also The Band which will have done 50 performances at the Theatre Royal Haymarket, and Ruthless!, Kings of the Rose and Six all at the Arts Theatre, which had eligible productions last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 11:31:48 GMT
I have given the Cast Recording another listen today. I am on board with the message of the show, and some of the songs are great (namely Me and the Sky), but otherwise, I actually fipound myself quite bored. Alot of it feels just like filler tracks, the ones you skip over to get to the good stuff. That said, I hope it has a decent run in London. I won't book in advance or pay expensive prices to go based on prior knowlage of the show, but casting and reviews may tempt me. I do think that this will be a show that will need the reviews to work out. Because if people are worried about Dear Evan Hansen or Waitress coming over and not working out, this is probably the least known of them even to theatre fans, so it wil certianly be interesting to see how it pans out. Hopefully smart promotion and casting prior will help it.  |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 14, 2018 12:29:30 GMT
Surely you cannot judge a musical by listening to the cast recording.
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