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Post by martinfisher on Sept 4, 2018 18:13:09 GMT
Get the name of the Tricycle Theatre reinstated... a demonstration and celebration outside the theatre.
Dress up as if going to walk down the red carpet or come as you are.
MAIN DEMO – Monday 10th Sept (6pm)
This is the main event
If you want to attend any more, please also join us on
Wednesday 5th, 6:30pm
Friday 7th, 6:30pm
Wednesday 12th, 6pm
We would love to see you on all the nights but if you can make only one of them, please try to make it Monday 10th
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 18:54:43 GMT
Like I said in another thread, I thought the Tricycle was a children's theatre like the Unicorn for years because of the name.
May I suggest that there are far more important things to demonstrate about instead like Brexit, the traitor in the White House, whether the labour party is one thing or another and so on.
It really is just a name and not a very clear one at that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 19:47:56 GMT
Get the name of the Tricycle Theatre reinstated... a demonstration and celebration outside the theatre. Dress up as if going to walk down the red carpet or come as you are. MAIN DEMO – Monday 10th Sept (6pm) This is the main event If you want to attend any more, please also join us on Wednesday 5th, 6:30pm Friday 7th, 6:30pm Wednesday 12th, 6pm We would love to see you on all the nights but if you can make only one of them, please try to make it Monday 10th I’ll spread the word. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 6:03:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 18:18:55 GMT
2 years
To do this???
It’s fine
But has obviously been done on the cheap
It’s such a shame
Signage awful
The layout same as before
Unclear why it took them this long
The only such refurbishment in the UK which has met my standards
Is the ROH
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Post by NeilVHughes on Sept 5, 2018 19:45:10 GMT
Come on @parsley bit harsh, Theatre itself is transformed if generic in a baby bridge way.
Intrigued to hear your thoughts on the play.later.
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Post by learfan on Sept 5, 2018 20:01:16 GMT
2 years To do this??? It’s fine But has obviously been done on the cheap It’s such a shame Signage awful The layout same as before Unclear why it took them this long The only such refurbishment in the UK which has met my standards Is the ROH Holy f*ck! Im actually agreeing with Mr Misery. It has never been explained why it took TWO years to refurb a small theatre. The new season had better be flipping good. |
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Post by Jon on Sept 5, 2018 22:34:19 GMT
The Kiln looks very similar to the Dorfman although I get the comparison to the Bridge as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 9:32:31 GMT
And others.... "...a letter to The Stage signed by artists including playwrights Richard Bean, Rebecca Lenkiewicz, April de Angelis and Tanika Gupta, states that they stand behind the venue’s “proposition that theatre is not here to fossilise culture, but to invigorate it”. The letter, also signed by director Cooke, Royal Shakespeare Company deputy artistic director Whyman, and Orange Tree Theatre artistic director Paul Miller, states: “We write to congratulate Indhu Rubasingham and everyone at Kiln Theatre – producers, creative learning team, administrators, box office, everyone – on the great achievement of transforming and reopening the building this week.” It adds: “We fully acknowledge the rich and special history of the Tricycle… But we stand with Kiln and its proposition that theatre is not here to fossilise culture but to invigorate it. While honouring the past, it must also reach out to new audiences and artists, who will come to Kiln with fresh perspectives, ideas, energy. Theatre’s mutability is its strength.” The letter is also signed by playwrights Simon Stephens, Roy Williams and Tanika Gupta, and designer Tom Piper." www.thestage.co.uk/news/2018/playwrights-and-arts-leaders-including-dominic-cooke-rally-behind-indhu-rubasingham-in-support-of-kiln-theatre/ |
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Post by learfan on Sept 6, 2018 11:17:41 GMT
As I understand it, they took out the entire auditorium and shipped it to a school. They then re-built from scratch within a shell. Including the time needed to safety-test and fit out as a functioning theatre, 2 years seems about right to me. Very charitable of you! |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 6, 2018 11:45:42 GMT
Retaining a well-respected identity does not 'fossilise' anything. It honours and celebrates that history and takes it onwards into a new era.
This is just the theatre establishment closing ranks around something that doesn't make a lot of sense.
It is creating the need for more effort and more work to build a new brand rather than using the existing one as a springboard to the future. It does feel like change for the sake of it.
New building - great. New name - pointless and possibly damaging.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 12:45:56 GMT
If you look at other theatre renovations it's not really that long. Even without an auditorium full refit the Sherman here in Cardiff went way over time (and budget but that's another story) with theirs. And did nothing so charitable as donate any of it anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 19:16:15 GMT
I wonder what people would think/say if VF decided to change the Royal Court’s name.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 19:18:33 GMT
I think a lot more people would be up in arms if it was the Royal Court that was getting a name change.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 19:25:18 GMT
And others.... "...a letter to The Stage signed by artists including playwrights Richard Bean, Rebecca Lenkiewicz, April de Angelis and Tanika Gupta, states that they stand behind the venue’s “proposition that theatre is not here to fossilise culture, but to invigorate it”. The letter, also signed by director Cooke, Royal Shakespeare Company deputy artistic director Whyman, and Orange Tree Theatre artistic director Paul Miller, states: “We write to congratulate Indhu Rubasingham and everyone at Kiln Theatre – producers, creative learning team, administrators, box office, everyone – on the great achievement of transforming and reopening the building this week.” It adds: “We fully acknowledge the rich and special history of the Tricycle… But we stand with Kiln and its proposition that theatre is not here to fossilise culture but to invigorate it. While honouring the past, it must also reach out to new audiences and artists, who will come to Kiln with fresh perspectives, ideas, energy. Theatre’s mutability is its strength.” The letter is also signed by playwrights Simon Stephens, Roy Williams and Tanika Gupta, and designer Tom Piper." www.thestage.co.uk/news/2018/playwrights-and-arts-leaders-including-dominic-cooke-rally-behind-indhu-rubasingham-in-support-of-kiln-theatre/Rubasingham’s mates have come out to support her, but the Theatre folk should also hear out those in that community who oppose the name change. The old artistic directorship always tried to serve that community. What is the value of theatres like the Trike (oops!) if they don’t listen to their communities?. Did they have a say? Did they help to choose the name? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 19:40:46 GMT
Some people just have too much time on their hands, they should go out and make a real difference to their community rather than choosing this as their hill to die on. Talk about middle class problems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 13:11:25 GMT
I think a lot more people would be up in arms if it was the Royal Court that was getting a name change. Bearing in mind they added the word "Jerwood" to the auditoria years ago. Given the bad press the Tricycle got before it closed, this name is a new start. There was a protest about Jerwood led by leading playwrights because artists didn’t want the Theatre to be compromised by the hint of private sponsorship but the days when that was a consideration are long gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 13:36:59 GMT
I believe that continuity is important in some instances. This theatre has historically had a specific constituency: communities who have traditionally been hidden from history and for whom the preservation of that history is not about fossilisation but about recovery and self actualisation. It would make sense if the new name reflected that - for example by naming it the Baldwin Theatre (I know James Baldwin was African American but the great man of letters had a link with the Theatre which I believe staged an important revival of one of his plays for which he visited the Theatre. Or they could have taken the opportunity to inscribe a hidden history onto the cultural landscape by naming it after black actor Ira Aldridge. After all, they produced a play about his life. The new name is neutral (nondescript) ill thought out (kiln conjures unsavoury images given the controversy of which you speak). I am sure the work will be excellent. The protest has nothing to do with the programme. You may think there is nothing in a name but for some naming is a political act. In my opinion Kiln is a cop out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 17:44:53 GMT
I can understand why changing a theatre name that celebrates a real person might be disliked. The Cottesloe or Albery didn't cause a fuss but the Gielgud, for example, would expect to be there for some time yet.
As soon as you use a name it creates specificity though and Baldwin is as specific culturally as any other and doesn't reflect the greater variety of cultural backgrounds that the theatre has promoted.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 6:24:16 GMT
Protesters outside the Kiln last night
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Post by Jan on Sept 11, 2018 6:36:47 GMT
Rupert Goold weighed-in to support the theatre saying he got lots of complaints when he re-named "The Oxford Stage Company" as "Headlong" - in that case the reason for the name change seems entirely obvious and justified.
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Post by drmaplewood on Sept 11, 2018 8:29:20 GMT
This is really embarrassing
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 8:35:41 GMT
This is really embarrassing Given that the theatre is known for its work with people of Afro-Caribbean and Asian heritage, it looks really, really embarrassing. |
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Post by zahidf on Sept 11, 2018 8:46:51 GMT
I'm not a MASSIVE fan of the new name but those protests are pretty pathetic.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Sept 11, 2018 9:02:36 GMT
They should get Boris Johnson onboard sounds like the kind of campaign that he would love to champion
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