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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 14:15:57 GMT
I have a ticket for this, and now I'm getting to the point where I have to spend £60 or whatever on a train ticker - or not. Should I bother? I could cut my losses and not go, or fork out for a train? Ive made my view clear, go. I have a rkt for June, i live in the midlands and the return train journey takes nearly six hours but it was my choice to book in advance therefore i go. Im afraid i simply do not understand the posters here who say they wouldnt go. Illness or force majeure aside. Some people value their time over money |
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Post by callum on Mar 11, 2018 14:16:57 GMT
I've seen it and would give it 3 stars fwiw.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 14:21:04 GMT
Ive made my view clear, go. I have a rkt for June, i live in the midlands and the return train journey takes nearly six hours but it was my choice to book in advance therefore i go. Im afraid i simply do not understand the posters here who say they wouldnt go. Illness or force majeure aside. Some people value their time over money For once we agree! Why would I use a valuable theatre slot in London for something I know to be not very good when there are 100s of other possibilities? Likewise why would I travel 2-4 hours to see that very same thing. |
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Post by theatremadness on Mar 11, 2018 14:28:49 GMT
I have a ticket for this, and now I'm getting to the point where I have to spend £60 or whatever on a train ticker - or not. Should I bother? I could cut my losses and not go, or fork out for a train? Ive made my view clear, go. I have a rkt for June, i live in the midlands and the return train journey takes nearly six hours but it was my choice to book in advance therefore i go. Im afraid i simply do not understand the posters here who say they wouldnt go. Illness or force majeure aside. Life's too short innit Martin!! Do what you makes you happy  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 15:05:26 GMT
I wouldn't normally drop out of something BUT I see the ticket price as a sort of deposit. If I'm going to go, I now need to spend another 60 quid and the tube fare and food cost and spend two hours travelling each way, and the parking cost at the station. In most circumstances I'd say this was a risk worth taking, and obviously on a law of averages you're going to end up seeing some stinkers over the year, but the reviews have been so universally awful for this, so now I'm not sure.
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Post by lynette on Mar 11, 2018 15:06:31 GMT
There is a twitter thread that says this prod is good so I would never say don’t go. It very much depends on individual circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 15:11:44 GMT
This thread does not have a poll attached to it, unlike others A poll? Only parsley and lynette have actually seen it on here, haven’t they? Everyone else has either been returning their tickets or thanking their lucky stars they weren’t successful in getting them! Snicole hated it too - she's my friend on Twitter and I've agreed with her about quite a few productions so far. Lots of points made above that I agree with - if it was hard to find a Macbeth production, or if I'd never seen Rory Kinnear on stage, or if this was just down the road, or if I had a bigger budget, then I think it would be worth trying. But I've seen a Macbeth and will most likely see the RSC one this year too. And I really really want to see the French Tartuffe, so I might save my money for that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 15:12:57 GMT
There is a twitter thread that says this prod is good so I would never say don’t go. It very much depends on individual circumstances. Ooh! I'll have a look. I'm clearly in a faffing mood, so I think I need to delay making a decision! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 16:00:50 GMT
There is a twitter thread that says this prod is good so I would never say don’t go. It very much depends on individual circumstances. Ooh! I'll have a look. I'm clearly in a faffing mood, so I think I need to delay making a decision! I understand the reservations about shelling out for a production that has had poor reviews, but flops are sometimes as interesting to see as successes. They both create a buzz and it's quite interesting to be part of that and to witness for yourself what everybody else is talking about. I really wanted to see the Macbeth with Horrocks that others have mentioned, but couldn't get a ticket because the word of mouth on that one was that it was so bad it was good and you couldn't get a ticket for it for love or money. I saw both St George and Common...both were interesting failures. I missed Salome, but really wanted to see that too. I suppose the thing to weigh up is whether you mind paying for a production where you might only want to watch the first half. I must admit that I'm looking forward to seeing this after all the furore - not least the hysteria that it has engendered on this discussion board. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 16:02:12 GMT
I have a ticket for this, and now I'm getting to the point where I have to spend £60 or whatever on a train ticker - or not. Should I bother? I could cut my losses and not go, or fork out for a train? Ive made my view clear, go. I have a rkt for June, i live in the midlands and the return train journey takes nearly six hours but it was my choice to book in advance therefore i go. Im afraid i simply do not understand the posters here who say they wouldnt go. Illness or force majeure aside. I just don't understand why you think theatre is a medicine to be gulped down manfully whether you lime it or not! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 16:12:37 GMT
There will be people who don't realise the NT will accept returns-for-credit. There will be people booking tickets for theatres that will not take your ticket back under any circumstances. There have always been people who book tickets but decide not to go after hearing bad reviews. There will always be these people. From a business perspective, the theatres don't give a single solitary hoot whether you turn up once you've bought a ticket, as they already have your money, and this is as true for when a person returns a ticket for credit as it is for when a person just decides to stay at home. Giving you credit for a ticket is better, in fact, as they *still have your money*, but also have the possibility of selling the seat again, and they've squeezed an extra £2 out of you into the bargain. Yeah, you'll spend the credit in the future, but they have your money *now*, so it'll all come out in the wash. Bums on seats are nice, but ticket money keeps the world spinning round.
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Post by martin1965 on Mar 11, 2018 16:17:01 GMT
Ive made my view clear, go. I have a rkt for June, i live in the midlands and the return train journey takes nearly six hours but it was my choice to book in advance therefore i go. Im afraid i simply do not understand the posters here who say they wouldnt go. Illness or force majeure aside. Life's too short innit Martin!! Do what you makes you happy It certainly is for this farcical thread! |
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Post by theatremadness on Mar 11, 2018 16:47:31 GMT
Life's too short innit Martin!! Do what you makes you happy It certainly is for this farcical thread! Chill, Martin. It's fine. Like, really, really fine. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 16:53:54 GMT
It certainly is for this farcical thread! Chill, Martin. It's fine. Like, really, really fine. Look honestly we're talking about this because it's frankly more interesting than the production itself (aside from Rory's beard, always worthy of discussion that is) martin1965 I only speak for myself but none of this debate was personal to you, and I'm sorry if you felt it was. Honestly I just thought we were all having a little chat around whether or not to see this hot mess or not. |
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Post by Spectator on Mar 11, 2018 17:04:36 GMT
In the tiny minority who really liked this (with some reservations), so I am biased, but the intensity of the backlash is still disappointing.
Can’t help but feel some critics wanted a more straightforward setting with heavily signposted contemporary tie-ins about the evils of populism.
Norris took a risk by taking different track. That seems to have backfired, but it was taken for the right reasons, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 17:54:11 GMT
In the tiny minority who really liked this (with some reservations), so I am biased, but the intensity of the backlash is still disappointing. Can’t help but feel some critics wanted a more straightforward setting with heavily signposted contemporary tie-ins about the evils of populism. Norris took a risk by taking different track. That seems to have backfired, but it was taken for the right reasons, IMO. Rufus Norris has no ideas And there was no concept in this show It was unfocused The setting was not properly executed |
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Post by lynette on Mar 11, 2018 18:06:38 GMT
As far as the NT is concerned I argue from a very fortunate position : I live in London and travel free on the tube and I get credit for returned tickets. So it is no problem for me to decide to miss a show I have booked for. If I had to pay for a train ticket, wouldn’t get a refund and even had to stay over, I would probably go for it and use the ticket or make sure it went to a good home , to a pal in London. It would be a decision I would have to make whereas as I am , there isn’t a much of a decision to be made. Hence I have dumped tickets for the NT more than any other Theatre.
This is a mess of a Macbeth but Rory says the words well, albeit in a funny accent, and it adds to the run of Macbeths for future discussion. Just to say the pleasure I have had from discussing the uproariously terrible NT Ant and Cleo (Alan Rickman and Helen Mirren ) has well repaid the pain of the night. Not to mention the Paul Schofield Macbeth at the RSC, the one where the swords were too heavy for the actors to actually lift...anyone else see that one? A classic.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 18:22:32 GMT
As far as the NT is concerned I argue from a very fortunate position : I live in London and travel free on the tube and I get credit for returned tickets. So it is no problem for me to decide to miss a show I have booked for. If I had to pay for a train ticket, wouldn’t get a refund and even had to stay over, I would probably go for it and use the ticket or make sure it went to a good home , to a pal in London. It would be a decision I would have to make whereas as I am , there isn’t a much of a decision to be made. Hence I have dumped tickets for the NT more than any other Theatre. This is a mess of a Macbeth but Rory says the words well, albeit in a funny accent, and it adds to the run of Macbeths for future discussion. Just to say the pleasure I have had from discussing the uproariously terrible NT Ant and Cleo (Alan Rickman and Helen Mirren ) has well repaid the pain of the night. Not to mention the Paul Schofield Macbeth at the RSC, the one where the swords were too heavy for the actors to actually lift...anyone else see that one? A classic. Same For me Live 15 mins from the NT I don’t know if I had to travel distances To see half the rubbish I end up going to How much more angry I would feel |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 11, 2018 18:57:05 GMT
In the tiny minority who really liked this (with some reservations), so I am biased, but the intensity of the backlash is still disappointing. Can’t help but feel some critics wanted a more straightforward setting with heavily signposted contemporary tie-ins about the evils of populism. Norris took a risk by taking different track. That seems to have backfired, but it was taken for the right reasons, IMO. Not seen it yet but I do hope I can say for the first time in my life, I agree with the Spectator |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 11, 2018 18:58:22 GMT
In the tiny minority who really liked this (with some reservations), so I am biased, but the intensity of the backlash is still disappointing. Can’t help but feel some critics wanted a more straightforward setting with heavily signposted contemporary tie-ins about the evils of populism. Norris took a risk by taking different track. That seems to have backfired, but it was taken for the right reasons, IMO. Rufus Norris has no ideas And there was no concept in this show It was unfocused The setting was not properly executed Thank you for dropping the farcical RuNo. What was that about? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 19:25:33 GMT
Rufus Norris has no ideas And there was no concept in this show It was unfocused The setting was not properly executed Thank you for dropping the farcical RuNo. What was that about? I decided he isn’t worthy of Any sort of acronym Won’t bestow it in him Unworthy |
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Post by Jan on Mar 11, 2018 20:23:05 GMT
As far as the NT is concerned I argue from a very fortunate position : I live in London and travel free on the tube and I get credit for returned tickets. So it is no problem for me to decide to miss a show I have booked for. If I had to pay for a train ticket, wouldn’t get a refund and even had to stay over, I would probably go for it and use the ticket or make sure it went to a good home , to a pal in London. It would be a decision I would have to make whereas as I am , there isn’t a much of a decision to be made. Hence I have dumped tickets for the NT more than any other Theatre. This is a mess of a Macbeth but Rory says the words well, albeit in a funny accent, and it adds to the run of Macbeths for future discussion. Just to say the pleasure I have had from discussing the uproariously terrible NT Ant and Cleo (Alan Rickman and Helen Mirren ) has well repaid the pain of the night. Not to mention the Paul Schofield Macbeth at the RSC, the one where the swords were too heavy for the actors to actually lift...anyone else see that one? A classic. I read a piece once which said “Paul Scofield, the actor forever destined to have his name spelt wrongly”. The mantle now assumed by Geoffrey Streatfeild I suppose. Just thought I’d chip in again with my usual observation that I thought that NT Ant n Cleo was OK. It takes all sorts. |
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Post by Polly1 on Mar 11, 2018 22:23:18 GMT
Off topic but Susannah Clapp has just tweeted that she gave Summer and Smoke five stars and it had been changed to four online... |
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Post by nash16 on Mar 11, 2018 22:59:27 GMT
Off topic but Susannah Clapp has just tweeted that she gave Summer and Smoke five stars and it had been changed to four online... Reviewers get to suggest star rating, but the editors have the final say. |
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