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Post by showtoones on Jul 23, 2018 18:07:28 GMT
Luke Bayer is now alternate Jamie - I believe Monday nights are his show. Has it been listed anywhere that Luke will be doing Mondays?
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Post by greeny11 on Jul 23, 2018 19:49:31 GMT
I haven't seen it listed - but Luke is on as Jamie tonight.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 23, 2018 20:22:10 GMT
Hmm. Mixed feelings. I’d need to know the “content” of the Act. The fact that he was editing it to remove bad language might suggest that it was a bit racy for 16 year olds. Put your dress and your wig on hun, by all means. Talk dirty to kids and you’re outta here... *tonguepop* * okurrrr?* Sidebar, exactly WHEN did “prom” become a thing in our schools? Can we dateline this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 20:42:35 GMT
Luke Bayer is now alternate Jamie - I believe Monday nights are his show. He is the new Alternate Jamie, but not until October 6th according to the website. www.everybodystalkingaboutjamie.co.uk/cast/luke-bayerWhich I imagine will come with cast change. I get that alternates are great for musical performers to get their chance etc, but I'm bored of this trend now, that every role under the sun needs an alternate or two... or three. If Bernadette, Patti, Imelda etc can do eight shows a week, so can these kids.
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Post by sherriebythesea on Jul 23, 2018 21:26:37 GMT
Is John McCrea leaving in Oct?
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Post by ali973 on Jul 24, 2018 12:58:34 GMT
Luke Bayer is now alternate Jamie - I believe Monday nights are his show. He is the new Alternate Jamie, but not until October 6th according to the website. www.everybodystalkingaboutjamie.co.uk/cast/luke-bayerWhich I imagine will come with cast change. I get that alternates are great for musical performers to get their chance etc, but I'm bored of this trend now, that every role under the sun needs an alternate or two... or three. If Bernadette, Patti, Imelda etc can do eight shows a week, so can these kids. The only one who truly benefits from an eight-performances a week schedule are producers who have turned this sales-driven schedule into a dogma up to a point where performers are shamed if they are not be able to cope up with it. While there are some exceptional performers who are capable (and who have decided to drink the cool aide and totally bend to this insane schedule), I say kudos to the performers who are secure with their abilities and who take care of themselves, personal lives and bodies and want to have a much deserved two days of rest like most of us laborers do. And speaking of the LuPones and Bernadettes of the world, these leading ladies are given the red carpet treatment and have assistants, transportation and all sorts of perks that make their life a little less hectic and gives them more space to get to, well...get to work. I'm sure a young performer like John McRea doesn't have similarly matching perks. LuPone and Peters also had decades of experience and know how to pace and take care of themselves to cope with this life. For such a young performer and a leading man, I'm sure John hasn't had the time to hone this skill or balance. Or maybe he just wants a longer weekend. And to that, I say you go boy.
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Post by showtoones on Jul 25, 2018 18:50:53 GMT
Has it been confirmed that Luke will be doing Mondays from 6 October? Will he only be doing 1 show/week?
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 26, 2018 14:46:49 GMT
Hmm. Mixed feelings. I’d need to know the “content” of the Act. The fact that he was editing it to remove bad language might suggest that it was a bit racy for 16 year olds. Put your dress and your wig on hun, by all means. Talk dirty to kids and you’re outta here... *tonguepop* * okurrrr?* Sidebar, exactly WHEN did “prom” become a thing in our schools? Can we dateline this? Oh, yes. The whole prom thing. What bright spark imported that after seeing a few American movies? Would love to know. THey sound utterly ghastly. Glad we didn't have them in my day.
I think it was in the early 2000's they insidiously migrated over here.
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Post by jamb0r on Jul 26, 2018 16:55:44 GMT
Blimey you lot sound like a load of grumpy old farts sometimes. A prom is just a disco and a chance for a party with a group of people you’re probably going to lose touch with after that night. Not really sure what’s so terrible about that? Still have fond memories from mine 15 years ago.
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 26, 2018 20:36:27 GMT
^It's not about "partying." What many of us struggle with is the rest of it - the crazy expense of outfits and transport and the rest. Not something most of the older generations have experienced, and it seems deeply alien to culture to spend that much at such an early stage in life, I think. Agreed. The excess is ostentatious, garish, vulgar, conservative in its traditions, and altogether not very British at all!
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Post by jamb0r on Jul 26, 2018 21:22:01 GMT
I borrowed my brothers tux and spent about £15 chipping in for a limo. I think whatever you guys think a ‘prom’ is is vastly different to reality.
We had a disco in a golf club while trying to consume alcohol without the teachers noticing and generally had fun celebrating the end of an era of our lives. I’m not really sure what’s not ‘British’ or excessive about that!
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Post by talkstageytome on Jul 27, 2018 6:37:03 GMT
Exactly! 16 year old me spent ages saving for a gorgeous sparkly dress (I didn't go all out ballgown mind you) and all my friends chipped in for a limo, took cute pics, and listened to people give speeches before we knew we'd all probably mostly never speak again.
Some 16 year olds love the idea of getting all glammed up, probably for the first time in their lives. I don't think that's really that shocking. Tbh looking back it was 2011 and probably all quite tacky, but we felt very grown up and fancy at the time! It never crossed my mind as being either British or purposely not British, because I don't think at 16 (or now for that matter) that's something that many people care about or act on. Just like Trick Or Treating at Halloween. In any event it was hardly an cultural apocalypse.
(To bring this back to Jamie in some small way, I'm seeing the show for the first time on Monday. Exciting!!)
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 27, 2018 7:21:28 GMT
Exactly! 16 year old me spent ages saving for a gorgeous sparkly dress (I didn't go all out ballgown mind you) and all my friends chipped in for a limo, took cute pics, and listened to people give speeches before we knew we'd all probably mostly never speak again. Some 16 year olds love the idea of getting all glammed up, probably for the first time in their lives. I don't think that's really that shocking. Tbh looking back it was 2011 and probably all quite tacky, but we felt very grown up and fancy at the time! It never crossed my mind as being either British or purposely not British, because I don't think at 16 (or now for that matter) that's something that many people care about or act on. Just like Trick Or Treating at Halloween. In any event it was hardly an cultural apocalypse. (To bring this back to Jamie in some small way, I'm seeing the show for the first time on Monday. Exciting!!) Different generations see things very differently to each other. Such is life.
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Post by jamb0r on Jul 27, 2018 9:01:19 GMT
Hmmmm I'm not so sure it's a generational thing. It's not like the idea of children attending a party was invented at the turn of the millennium. Maybe it's just the word 'prom' that irks people?
This whole conversation has a 'Get off my lawn and stop having fun!' vibe to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 9:22:55 GMT
As someone who I believe is a midway through the above generation war, maybe I can interject.
I finished 6th form in 2002, we had a 'Leavers Dinner' at a local hotel. It was a Prom in all but name (we wore formal outfits- for full disclosure mine cost about £50 that I paid for myself) we had a dinner and a dance and some people went into town. (I'm sure some questionable life decisions were made by some that night regarding who they went home with).
Nothing wrong with a bit of a 'last hurrah' with people indeed you likely never see again. And personally that aspect of the tradtion of Prom is a nice one, and why can't we adopt fun things from other countries.
On the other end of the spectrum yes some Proms/parents/kids go to extremes. There's no need to spend 1000s on the thing, there's no need for all the ridiculous beauty standards for girls etc etc.
And most Universities have Balls of similar kinds for no reason other than 'It's winter' or in the case of Oxbridge 'It's Tuesday' so really it's not SUCH an American tradition.
And maybe it all seems ridiculous to those who went to school a long time ago, likely there'll be something in 20 years that seems ridiculous to me. But generally it's just a piss up in a posh frock and the only difference to how other people ended 6th form is the posh frock.
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Post by MrsCondomine on Jul 27, 2018 9:27:11 GMT
Prom is a really big deal for a lot of teenagers ( though I left school in 2006, and missed my prom for three weeks in Florida... not bad).
I don't understand why prom kerfuffles make the headlines, and I think spending a fortune on helicopters, wedding-esque dresses and makeup is a bit much for a sixteen-year-old*, BUT I wouldn't begrudge kids their chance to get together at the end of their time at school. A lot of them believe they'll never see each other again and that going to different colleges means a complete cut-off from their old friends. It's a big thing at that age. It's a rite of passage.
Actually, Jamie captures this sentiment really well with Pritti's riposte to Dean that he's only got one night left being a big fish in a small pond, before he's jettisoned into the wider world.
*not that they all do this, by any means...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 10:09:48 GMT
We had a posh dinner in formal frocks (my parents insisted I got one made - only dress that's ever been tailored for me in my life!) with some funny awards for the students and teachers voted for by us, and then a bit of dancing afterwards. The bar wasn't serving anyone under 18 so those of us who were already 18 had to buy all the drinks! We all grouped together in groups of 8 or so to hire limos to get us there, then mostly got parents to pick us up and went back to friend's houses for pizza and chatting all night. Some people probably went to an after party but my friends and I didn't like clubs.
It was a big deal at the time, but really not too much of a fuss looking back at it. I do find the whole helicopters and designer dresses thing a bit ridiculous, it shouldn't be about who can spend the most money!
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Post by Dan213 on Jul 27, 2018 10:40:18 GMT
Slight change of topic, but has anyone seen Lee Ross as Hugo/Loco yet?
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Post by drowseychap on Jul 28, 2018 0:41:30 GMT
Get mates to sign your school shirt in marker pen go to shop bag of flour 6 eggs. Flour and egg eachother then home .... that was our last day in 1980 s !!!
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Post by freckles on Jul 28, 2018 7:57:54 GMT
Mods - hasn’t this thread gone a bit off topic? You have to go back quite a long way to read anything about the show! Anyway, saw this week and loved it. Great, enthusiastic cast and I thought the show had real heart and energy.
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Post by westended on Jul 28, 2018 20:29:38 GMT
What’s the difference between a swing and an understudy in this production?
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Post by Dan213 on Jul 28, 2018 21:57:30 GMT
What’s the difference between a swing and an understudy in this production? Appears to be that the Swings cover the 'Ensemble' tracks on their own or alongside lead/supporting role(s) whereas the understudies cover only the lead/supporting roles. Only exception to this appears to be Luke Bayer, however prior to the announcement that he would become alternate Jamie, he was also listed as a swing
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 9:24:28 GMT
Ooh yeah the local shops were always banned from selling us flour and eggs (classy lot we were haha) Speaking of school as we were, I went to the same school as this cylcing chappie with the name the English can't say. Only for about 3 weeks though (I left he didn't, he was busy riding in circles no doubt). Oops am I going to get a wrist slap for daring to talk about something else Anyway in an honest 'back on topic' comment, I also heard girls in school shout at each other to 'change your Hijab I had that one first' and it's details like that which made me LOVE Jamie...I went to that school for sure.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jul 30, 2018 15:37:26 GMT
I was watching the cinema recording at home yesterday for the first time - THE CAMERA WORK IS AWFUL
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Post by Dr Tom on Jul 30, 2018 20:25:52 GMT
I was watching the cinema recording at home yesterday for the first time - THE CAMERA WORK IS AWFUL They should have held the camcorder stiller when pointing it at the cinema screen!
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