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Post by ensembleswings on Jul 12, 2018 17:15:34 GMT
I jumped to the same conclusion you did cheesy116 I can't see any other reason for her seeing the show twice in this past week and saying they'll be neighbours (whilst also tagging the show in the tweets) if she isn't going into the show. |
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Post by jgblunners on Jul 13, 2018 10:25:42 GMT
New cast announced - Rebecca McKinnis (previously understudy Margaret and Miss Hedge) to take over as Margaret and Lee Ross (who?) will play Hugo/Loco. Link to WOS articleReally glad to see Rebecca promoted - I've not seen Josie in the role but Rebecca was fantastic when I saw her! |
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Post by cheesy116 on Jul 13, 2018 10:53:36 GMT
(In regards to me messages just up the page) I'm not sure what Melissa was meaning then since they've just announced the new casting and she isn't in it. Maybe she is getting involved with the production backstage rather than on stage since she does pretty much say that she will be involved with the show in her tweets.
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Post by jgblunners on Jul 13, 2018 10:59:02 GMT
(In regards to me messages just up the page) I'm not sure what Melissa was meaning then since they've just announced the new casting and she isn't in it. Maybe she is getting involved with the production backstage rather than on stage since she does pretty much say that she will be involved with the show in her tweets. She could be replacing Rebecca as cover for Margaret and Miss Hedge? At a quick glance, there doesn't seem to be anyone in the main body of the new cast announcement that isn't listed as a named character and fits the age range. |
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Post by Stasia on Jul 13, 2018 11:27:47 GMT
(In regards to me messages just up the page) I'm not sure what Melissa was meaning then since they've just announced the new casting and she isn't in it. Maybe she is getting involved with the production backstage rather than on stage since she does pretty much say that she will be involved with the show in her tweets. Personally I read her messages as just congratulating someone who will work in the neighbourhood  |
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Post by ensembleswings on Jul 13, 2018 14:31:15 GMT
Really pleased for Rebecca, she was my first (and only) Margaret and I really enjoyed her performance, looking forward to going again at some point over the summer
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Post by anthony on Jul 15, 2018 11:29:45 GMT
Eventually saw this yesterday (matinee). I... didn't like it. I don't think the story is interesting and I don't think their execution of the telling the story is particularly interesting, either. It just seems to be all written around getting cheap pops from the audience. From the moment the word 'prom' is mentioned, you know every single thing that is going to happen throughout.
Saying that, the cast were amazing. Although we were sat in front of a lady who had obviously saw it a few times and continued to sob from the moment the first song started because she was going to 'miss' some of the departing cast members. Literally snivelling her way through the entire thing from beginning to end. Ugh.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 15, 2018 11:38:57 GMT
Saying that, the cast were amazing. Although we were sat in front of a lady who had obviously saw it a few times and continued to sob from the moment the first song started because she was going to 'miss' some of the departing cast members. Literally snivelling her way through the entire thing from beginning to end. Ugh. 🙄 |
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Post by showtoones on Jul 15, 2018 17:00:22 GMT
Saying that, the cast were amazing. Although we were sat in front of a lady who had obviously saw it a few times and continued to sob from the moment the first song started because she was going to 'miss' some of the departing cast members. Literally snivelling her way through the entire thing from beginning to end. Ugh. 🙄 Why do you have to call out Megan Markle like that?!? Leave her alone 🤗 |
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Post by Stasia on Jul 15, 2018 21:25:53 GMT
Eventually saw this yesterday (matinee). I... didn't like it. I don't think the story is interesting and I don't think their execution of the telling the story is particularly interesting, either. It just seems to be all written around getting cheap pops from the audience. From the moment the word 'prom' is mentioned, you know every single thing that is going to happen throughout. Saying that, the cast were amazing. Although we were sat in front of a lady who had obviously saw it a few times and continued to sob from the moment the first song started because she was going to 'miss' some of the departing cast members. Literally snivelling her way through the entire thing from beginning to end. Ugh. Personally I find that experiencing deep emotions in the theatre (such as sobbing) is much better than bitching about it. Yes, people do cry in the theatres. And you can’t fake that meaning the tears are genuine and emotional and many other things. And this is what theatre is for. I can cry even being at home and remembering how touchi g and strong and vulnerable Josie Walker was in it. And I din’t like people making fun of others being more empathetic and having deeper feelings than them. For all of us who cry in the theatres — JUST. DON’T. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 22:27:25 GMT
it's fine to cry if you find a story moving, but to cry because someone is leaving the cast soon, when you're not a cast member.... I agree with Anthony. ugh.
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Post by Stasia on Jul 16, 2018 6:27:01 GMT
it's fine to cry if you find a story moving, but to cry because someone is leaving the cast soon, when you're not a cast member.... I agree with Anthony. ugh. It is not what he said. He said a person was crying from the first song. I did that (from the second song though) in Moscow during the cinema screening. Because I was overwhelmed. Seriously, he didn’t know why a said person was crying in these particular moments. And chances are higher it was because of the rendition of the certain numbers and undrstanding you won’t hear them again as they were performed. And crying because your favourite performer won’t sing these lines anymore is also normal. Much more normal than posting 8 lines about the show 4 of which are dedicated to a person who was watching the same show and living through it 10 times better. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 6:42:37 GMT
Obviously I wasn't there, I don't know that woman etc etc But I too dislike making fun of a woman for having emotions at the theatre.
Firstly, I cried during the first song in Jamie, I don't even know why I just did and that was the first time seeing it. Similar to that lady I cried my way through the opening monologues of Angels in America the last time I saw it because I too was going to miss, if not the cast member (well yes that too) the show.
People experience a range of emotions at the theatre. People get attached to shows and the performers in them for all sorts of reasons. And for one would expect better of people who spend their time on a theatre forum than to judge someone for feeling emotions at the theatre.
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Post by viserys on Jul 16, 2018 6:48:17 GMT
As long as the lady wasn't loudly sobbing, sniffling and howling and thereby disturbing others around her, it's nobody else's business how overwhelmed or not she was.
Some people are better at keeping their emotions in than others. Crying can be a healthy cathartic. Personally I tend not to cry in the theatre except maybe tears welling up in my eyes a little bit at particularly sappy moments. But I know I might cry when I have to say "goodbye" to a particular performer later this year and I'd hate to think of someone sitting next to me judging me when he (or she) has no idea why and how this performance has come to mean so much to me. Like Stasia says, sometimes someone touches your heart with a performance and when that performer is gone, the show will not be the same anymore.
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Post by anthony on Jul 16, 2018 8:06:33 GMT
As I have stated, the lady was crying from the first song because she was upset that it was the last time she was going to see the current cast and she was said they were leaving. I know this, as she proceeded to tell everyone who would listen at the interval.
And it was loudly sobbing. It wasn't discreet. It was literally sniffling, gasping, fiddling with plastic hankey packets from the very beginning to the very end. Literally two and a bit hours of this continuously. She was disturbing others around her -- again, I know this because other people around us were talking about how loud the crying was also.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 8:10:53 GMT
Your first post doesn't read like that. You say 'sniveling' which to me doesn't make it sound like it was loud/disruptive. But obviously you've a right to moan if someone was being loud we all do it on here. But that said Jamie isn't a very quiet show, and I'm not sure someone crying is that much more disruptive than the general low level noise you get at any performance. Especially musicals where applause breaks cause a general bit of residual noise.
The issue really was it also reads very much like you're judging her for having emotions about it rather than making disruptive noise.
But it is the tone of several posts above that have annoyed a few more of us. I find it really sad actually that members of this board are so judgmental about someone's emotional response to a show. Just because it's not how you would react doesn't make it wrong or bad.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 16, 2018 10:27:00 GMT
You know, I was all ready to be defensive about this and accuse people of being heartless, but I must admit, if I'd had to sit through it I'd probably be rolling my eyes about it too.
So, err, I can see both sides on this one. Nothing wrong with having a good cry at a show that means a lot to you, but we all know that people around you reacting with extreme emotion to something that you are not as engaged with can be annoying - whether it be laughter (the dreaded 'overlaugher') or tears or applause.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 16, 2018 11:58:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 12:18:05 GMT
And crying because your favourite performer won’t sing these lines anymore is also normal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 12:57:34 GMT
I'm sort of with kathryn. There's "weeping at a show because you're moved for whatever reason", and that reason can be absolutely anything and no reason is more or less valid than another reason, but there's also "performatively weeping at a show because it's important for the weeper to be seen to be weeping", which is definitely a thing that happens at certain shows, and while I have all the sympathy in the world for a standard weeper (lord knows I've welled up at the smallest things before now), I totally understand the lack of patience with a performative weeper.
That said, there's lacking patience with a performative weeper, and there's downright sneering about them. Whether you're making a valid point or not, there's no reason to use belittling or unpleasant language.
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Post by princeton on Jul 16, 2018 13:30:17 GMT
Melissa Jacques has indeed joined the cast - understudying Margaret and Miss Hedge.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 16, 2018 13:30:42 GMT
'Performative weeping' seems to be a trend - hyperbolic declarations of crying appears to be 'a thing' among the 'yoof' on social media. I'm probably just getting old but it does strike me as a bit ridiculous....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 13:50:41 GMT
I'm sort of with kathryn. There's "weeping at a show because you're moved for whatever reason", and that reason can be absolutely anything and no reason is more or less valid than another reason, but there's also "performatively weeping at a show because it's important for the weeper to be seen to be weeping", which is definitely a thing that happens at certain shows, and while I have all the sympathy in the world for a standard weeper (lord knows I've welled up at the smallest things before now), I totally understand the lack of patience with a performative weeper. That said, there's lacking patience with a performative weeper, and there's downright sneering about them. Whether you're making a valid point or not, there's no reason to use belittling or unpleasant language. Indeed and indeed. I likewise have little patience for the hyperbole of the yoof online or elsewhere that is 'I CRY' (or indeed anyone of any age). Likewise as little patience for the loud-crier as the loud-laugher. But the choice of wording that veers towards sneering, isn't really playing fair. |
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Post by bellboard27 on Jul 23, 2018 13:35:22 GMT
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Post by daniel on Jul 23, 2018 13:41:48 GMT
Luke Bayer is now alternate Jamie - I believe Monday nights are his show.
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