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Post by bellboard27 on Dec 25, 2017 10:26:19 GMT
So they think\know there's an audience for music theatre on television. Why not get the best young talent and a few established names to do it to a really high standard, rather than feed us half-baked, badly performed turns where someone is the "winner"? The production costs won't be any different, but the quality infinitely better. The answer to this is easy. The general public doesn’t know who Louise Dearman or Kerry Ellis is. My family wouldn’t have a clue - they would know the cast of Corrie, Loose Women or Freddie Flintoff. It’s annoying beyond words but that’s the sad reality. Even established musical theatre names Elaine Paige, John Barrowman and Micheal Ball aside won’t be seen to bring in ratings for the demographic wanted. Very sad, but very true. |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Dec 25, 2017 10:36:24 GMT
The thing is, the actors amongst those contestants all probably went to stage school, they all probably are trained, most people on soaps and tv are. Idon't really see being known more for tv than stage roles should be held against them. What just because they happened to be offered a big tv role before a stage one? And also does anyone think that these leading musical theatre stars don't/didn't audition for tv too? Cus they all pretty much did and do. You know the difference between someone like Rachel Tucker being known for stage rather than tv and seen as a credible theatre actress? That she was given that opportunity first. That's all.
Lucy Fallon there probably auditioned for theatre before she got the role on Corrie. If she was cast in something on the West End she might be a big theatre star, but because she instead took a role on Corrie she's seen as a pretender and not credible and should stick to the cobbles and not 'infect' the west end.
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Post by crabtree on Dec 25, 2017 11:22:38 GMT
It is simply a horrendously produced naff idea, following in the footsteps of that ghastly Pop Star to Opera star or whatever that cringe worthy programme was.
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Post by junet on Dec 25, 2017 15:02:25 GMT
I really enjoyed it.
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Post by musicalmarge on Dec 25, 2017 15:41:01 GMT
Plenty of talentless idiots become household names on reality shows, so having some triple threat talent on telly might raise their profiles and the result is win win. The sad reality is that so much talent on ITV comes from reality TV shows now (which basically cast people off the street), the rest are kids TV presenters who worked their way up, ex sportstars with strong agents, the odd soap actor who play themselves, former pop stars (mostly manufactures by ITV) comedians and chefs etc. I would ADORE for half the amazingly talented people I know to have raised national profiles but the reality is it is very very difficult. Also annoyingly difficult for musical theatre performers is to even pbe seen as “actors” and even get auditions for straight theatre work or TV roles. They could be just as good if not better, but that’s the industry that puts people in boxes. Very few make the jump. Win win sadly it’s not..... |
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Post by kathryn on Dec 25, 2017 18:10:55 GMT
The thing is, the actors amongst those contestants all probably went to stage school, they all probably are trained, most people on soaps and tv are. Idon't really see being known more for tv than stage roles should be held against them. What just because they happened to be offered a big tv role before a stage one? And also does anyone think that these leading musical theatre stars don't/didn't audition for tv too? Cus they all pretty much did and do. You know the difference between someone like Rachel Tucker being known for stage rather than tv and seen as a credible theatre actress? That she was given that opportunity first. That's all. Lucy Fallon there probably auditioned for theatre before she got the role on Corrie. If she was cast in something on the West End she might be a big theatre star, but because she instead took a role on Corrie she's seen as a pretender and not credible and should stick to the cobbles and not 'infect' the west end. While this is true, there’s no doubt that some of the performances on the show were well below-par and would not be seen on stage in the West End. It’s a shame that Christmas Eve telly audiences don’t get treated to excellent musical theatre performances. Even the winner wasn’t that good. |
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Post by musicalmarge on Dec 26, 2017 7:25:10 GMT
The thing is, the actors amongst those contestants all probably went to stage school, they all probably are trained, most people on soaps and tv are. Idon't really see being known more for tv than stage roles should be held against them. What just because they happened to be offered a big tv role before a stage one? And also does anyone think that these leading musical theatre stars don't/didn't audition for tv too? Cus they all pretty much did and do. You know the difference between someone like Rachel Tucker being known for stage rather than tv and seen as a credible theatre actress? That she was given that opportunity first. That's all. Lucy Fallon there probably auditioned for theatre before she got the role on Corrie. If she was cast in something on the West End she might be a big theatre star, but because she instead took a role on Corrie she's seen as a pretender and not credible and should stick to the cobbles and not 'infect' the west end. I went to one of the top 5 “stage schools” and indeed some of my class mates have been in soaps - take it from me, 3/4’s of them (including ones who worked on TV) still weren’t that good. A soap audition is one or two meetings reading an easy script usually typecasting you to who you are in real life, musical auditions have panels of up to 20 people and you can be recalled over 10 times. |
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Post by theatreian on Feb 26, 2021 10:33:29 GMT
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 26, 2021 23:19:02 GMT
This all sounds horrific. I can’t wait.
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Post by theatreian on Mar 8, 2021 12:17:57 GMT
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 8, 2021 13:28:50 GMT
Does the Trade Descriptions Act apply to TV programmes?
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Post by alece10 on Mar 8, 2021 16:51:55 GMT
Awful line up but I will be watching as its musicals.
Strange that the press release says Jessica Hynes from Shaun of the Dead. I would have thought she is far more famous for many other things than that film.
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Post by steve10086 on Mar 8, 2021 18:08:20 GMT
Ro..ber..t Pes..ton? Gonna be a f***ing long song  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 18:31:32 GMT
Ro..ber..t Pes..ton? Gonna be a f***ing king song Just know its going to be a rocky horror song or something  |
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Post by danb on Mar 9, 2021 7:31:14 GMT
Will little Bobby Rinder do a Billy Flynn number? Tina off of the Enders can probably sing so that one’ll be ok, likewise Bradley Walsh’s lad. Peston can sing speak ‘Oh What a Circus’ and Jessica can do ‘My Favourite Things’ in a dirndl. There we go...no need to endure it now.
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Post by theatreian on Mar 20, 2021 14:31:16 GMT
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Post by marob on Mar 20, 2021 15:15:45 GMT
If he can sing, then Barney Walsh could be one to watch here, because he already has the “cheeky chappy” public persona like Charlie Stemp. I know he sings a bit with his dad on their show, but I’ve not really watched it.
I think Robert Peston could be, um... memorable.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 20, 2021 15:54:06 GMT
(I'm not gonna lie to you) I'm conflicted over this.
Look, anything that's gonna put musicals and live performances at the front and centre I'm all for.
The problem I have is non-sining 'celebrities' performing when there are so many talented and skilled performers who have been out of work for so long who seem to have been overlooked.
(sigh)
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 21, 2021 18:31:56 GMT
UM. I'M WATCHING. (see you on the other side)
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Post by BoOverall on Mar 21, 2021 18:42:44 GMT
Well, I’m going for it. Can’t say much about my expectations. Interesting to see Barrowman channelling a camp but engaging Paul Hollywood.
Please be good. Please be good.......oh!
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Post by alece10 on Mar 21, 2021 18:49:51 GMT
Well Rinder wasn't bad at all, apart from strange hands.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 21, 2021 19:07:50 GMT
I think the judges are all really great! Lovely seeing an ensemble onstage. (Let's hope ITV credit them) Can't seem to recognise anyone.
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Post by steve10086 on Mar 21, 2021 19:10:32 GMT
I think the judges are on something. Crap performances and told “you could actually be in the show, 10 stars!”. Like hell they could. And the best so far gets the lowest score. What a farce.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 21, 2021 19:12:34 GMT
Ranj Singh - excited hearing just his rehearsal footage!!!
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 21, 2021 19:13:20 GMT
I think the judges are on something. Crap performances and told “you could actually be in the show, 10 stars!”. Like hell they could. And the best so far gets the lowest score. What a farce. I didn't think Sixpence deserved a low score. |
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