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Post by oxydrive on Feb 5, 2023 18:59:07 GMT
I agree- I''ve thought for a while they all look a bit bored! Time for a refresh to be sure!
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Post by keekio2 on Feb 5, 2023 19:50:06 GMT
Apparently the whole band has been fired and the cast’s contracts aren’t being renewed because they want a fresh look don’t know how true it is
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Post by wicked on Feb 5, 2023 23:25:31 GMT
Does anyone know if Tony Turley (Kurt) is okay? He's been off for weeks with no mention of it from anyone.
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Post by wicked on Feb 5, 2023 23:36:39 GMT
Apparently the whole band has been fired and the cast’s contracts aren’t being renewed because they want a fresh look don’t know how true it is I'd be surprised by this because when I saw this cast (admittedly a few months ago) they were all strong. If they want to finally cast diversely I would understand and support, but judging by the state of the tour cast I sincerely doubt this is the reason. |
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Post by stevej678 on Feb 7, 2023 17:08:13 GMT
Miracle Chance is the new Veronica. Loved her in Be More Chill and Unfortunate! |
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Post by Dr Tom on Feb 7, 2023 17:41:20 GMT
Wow, very good choices all around. Almost a complete cast change. Just one persons staying one and one returning if I've counted right.
Ellis Kirk was excellent as the lead for Dark Lord last week and I can certainly see him as JD. It was such an odd situation with two O'Keefe and Murphy musicals playing in different theatres in the same building at the same time (and so great to be in the same room as O'Keefe and Murphy).
Miracle Chance is brilliant as well.
Funnily enough, I thought Dark Lord was more in the style of Be More Chill than Heathers!
Will be a shame to see so many people leave the show (until they get emergency cover duties), but with the largely fresh tour cast and The Other Palace cast, it shows there's a lot of life left in this show yet.
Edit: In fact quite a few of the new cast were in Dark Lord, funny that! And very glad that Kaine Ruddock is getting this opportunity.
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Post by darreno on Feb 7, 2023 21:54:28 GMT
Oh wow, VERY excited for the new cast. Miracle Chance was outstanding in Be More Chill and BEYOND excited to see Megan Hill again! She was electric in Cheerleader and really hoping I get to see her cover a big role in Heathers. Saw this a dozen times last year and now I'm reinvigorated to start that journey again.
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Post by danb on Feb 7, 2023 22:09:48 GMT
It obviously has to run very cheaply to be a worthwhile enterprise. Comparatively small room, not insubstantial band & cast. They have probably had to be FIFO with a team that have believed the echo chamber of twitter. (Fit in or F off).
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Post by Matt on Feb 7, 2023 23:01:40 GMT
I despise this show, but miracle and Katie Pearson are making me want to see it again now for them alone.
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Post by margoc on Feb 8, 2023 11:53:38 GMT
Nice to see a complete cast change,quite refreshing
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Post by timothyd on Feb 9, 2023 11:17:27 GMT
I'm curious to see this musical when we're in London next month. I was wondering if some people here who've seen the musical can elaborate a bit on the trigger warnings?
Especially ''sexual violence and references to eating disorders.''
I don't mind being spoiled so I can be prepared for the moments these things are being talked about / occur.
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Post by danb on Feb 9, 2023 12:49:18 GMT
I'm curious to see this musical when we're in London next month. I was wondering if some people here who've seen the musical can elaborate a bit on the trigger warnings? Especially ''sexual violence and references to eating disorders.'' I don't mind being spoiled so I can be prepared for the moments these things are being talked about / occur. Attempted date rape (in a comic song) and bulimic vomiting being glibly dismissed. My wife is quite straight laced and I thought she’d hate it but thoroughly enjoyed it so I don’t know if that helps? |
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Post by timothyd on Feb 9, 2023 16:02:42 GMT
Yes, thanks so much for elaborating. Can't really stand graphic scenes so was a bit wary to book. I think I will book now.  |
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Post by darreno on Feb 9, 2023 16:40:27 GMT
I'm curious to see this musical when we're in London next month. I was wondering if some people here who've seen the musical can elaborate a bit on the trigger warnings? Especially ''sexual violence and references to eating disorders.'' I don't mind being spoiled so I can be prepared for the moments these things are being talked about / occur. Nothing sexually graphic, the 'date rape' scene is played for comedic effect (I know that sounds odd but you'll see!) Eating disorders is just the usual High School 'bitchy' comments, and a little more for comedic effect again. I'd say the only trigger that is 'worth' being prepared for is if you have any particular sensitivity to suicide mentions/depictions. I would say BOOK, BOOK, BOOK it! I go every month and absolutely love it, as has anyone I have brought (dragged!) along with me. Enjoy! |
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Post by lolalou on Feb 9, 2023 21:56:33 GMT
Apparently the whole band has been fired and the cast’s contracts aren’t being renewed because they want a fresh look don’t know how true it is I'd be surprised by this because when I saw this cast (admittedly a few months ago) they were all strong. If they want to finally cast diversely I would understand and support, but judging by the state of the tour cast I sincerely doubt this is the reason. It’s true unfortunately What is going on??? http://instagram.com/p/Coa8NgbqaRK |
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Post by Seriously on Feb 9, 2023 23:09:45 GMT
Someone's worried that the new Equity 17% pay rise will go through, and wants to save money elsewhere. New contracts that state no pay rise.
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Post by danb on Feb 10, 2023 7:18:32 GMT
They should just be putting the ticket price up to pay for it, but I guess the pressure to constantly discount has hit them hard. I think our expectations need to change. We have a new generation of theatregoers who think that theatre prices should change to accommodate them rather than acknowledge the changing financial landscape.
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Post by timothyd on Feb 10, 2023 7:54:51 GMT
Thanks Darreno and DanB for the advice yesterday. Booked tickets yesterday and we're looking forward to see the show.
Although that situation with the band is quite disappointing to say the least. Not fair.
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Post by lolalou on Feb 10, 2023 14:41:12 GMT
Yes it seems that the band come bottom of the pile in musicals (see Phantom) and it seems this one is going the same way.
Long live LIVE music.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Feb 10, 2023 15:32:43 GMT
I do wonder if a time will come when even actors could be replaced. Looking at things like ABBA Voyage and the hologram tours, it's expensive tech now, but tech gets cheaper eventually.
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Post by christya on Feb 10, 2023 15:41:26 GMT
It does sound suspiciously like someone started a conversation with "Hey, so the audience can't see the band anyway..."
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Post by SuttonPeron on Feb 10, 2023 16:53:44 GMT
So are they just going to use canned music from now on? Not that there´s a ton of prerecorded stuff there anyways...
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Post by Dr Tom on Feb 10, 2023 19:43:38 GMT
What I do find interesting is last time they replaced the cast, they made a big deal out of it and held a fan appreciation day. This time, it was done very quietly.
I do think that Heathers is one of those shows that could extend its shelf life a lot by changing the cast every few months and perhaps also provide a starting point for work for fresh graduates.
The salary cost versus ticket pricing is always a difficult consideration. I presume they've set pricing and discounting to the level where this is profitable to run, but Heathers is past the premium pricing date. Plus, this is aimed at a generally young audience without much of a disposal income. So the question becomes, close it and either have a dark theatre or an untested show, or continue running and try and make the costs work. At the same time, I hate the idea of people working for less than they're worth (not that that doesn't happen across a variety of careers).
I'm almost surprised that they haven't worked on the actor-musician version of Heathers yet (he jokes).
I am sorry for anyone unexpectedly out of work and I hope other opportunities appear for them soon.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Feb 10, 2023 19:52:28 GMT
i don't get the band's complaints here. they signed a deal saying they were happy to be contracted to a certain date. at that date they were no longer contracted and that's that. why did they assume they'd be kept on?
It might not be 'nice' but it's in no way illegal?
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Post by danb on Feb 10, 2023 22:07:15 GMT
So its just a contract expiry, not ‘the whole band being sacked’? They are two different things. Presumably they can reapply for their old job on less favourable terms if they want to?
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