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Post by stagebyte on Jun 5, 2022 12:40:15 GMT
All this ‘illness’ is there more at play here?
Heathers is hardly a workout like Hamilton or 42nd St. It’s less than 16 hours of performance time with any rehearsals needed?
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Post by spathzthecat on Jun 5, 2022 12:49:46 GMT
Hi
Rosemarie Ford not jump back into the role of Bombalurina after a spate of problems of Cats UK tour. And it was three weeks after giving birth.
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Post by Dr Tom on Jun 5, 2022 12:52:48 GMT
The Sunday 1pm matinee has been rather cursed recently.
I did see the Wednesday matinee this week, with a fairly random cast (and a particularly mean spirited cover for Ms Fleming - I felt rather sorry for the elderly masked gentleman who forced to his feet, visibly shaking, then verbally bullied - and hope the venue refunded his ticket and issued an apology at the least).
Funnily enough, they had a sign up with most of the covers, even announcing that Jordan Cunningham had returned to the ensemble, but neglected to mention that Hannah Lowther was on as Heather Chandler. Bayley made an excellent Martha.
It's rather funny that they still haven't updated the cast on the website. It's a wonder anyone who doesn't know the show well can work out who they're seeing.
A shame Teleri is leaving. She's an excellent Heather McNamara. Are we down to just Ailsa and Vicki who have been with this run of the show since the start?
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Post by partytentdown on Jun 5, 2022 14:13:28 GMT
The Sunday 1pm matinee has been rather cursed recently. I did see the Wednesday matinee this week, with a fairly random cast (and a particularly mean spirited cover for Ms Fleming - I felt rather sorry for the elderly masked gentleman who forced to his feet, visibly shaking, then verbally bullied - and hope the venue refunded his ticket and issued an apology at the least). Funnily enough, they had a sign up with most of the covers, even announcing that Jordan Cunningham had returned to the ensemble, but neglected to mention that Hannah Lowther was on as Heather Chandler. Bayley made an excellent Martha. It's rather funny that they still haven't updated the cast on the website. It's a wonder anyone who doesn't know the show well can work out who they're seeing. A shame Teleri is leaving. She's an excellent Heather McNamara. Are we down to just Ailsa and Vicki who have been with this run of the show since the start? What did she do to the old man?! |
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Post by cezbear on Jun 5, 2022 14:15:22 GMT
The Sunday 1pm matinee has been rather cursed recently. I did see the Wednesday matinee this week, with a fairly random cast (and a particularly mean spirited cover for Ms Fleming - I felt rather sorry for the elderly masked gentleman who forced to his feet, visibly shaking, then verbally bullied - and hope the venue refunded his ticket and issued an apology at the least). Funnily enough, they had a sign up with most of the covers, even announcing that Jordan Cunningham had returned to the ensemble, but neglected to mention that Hannah Lowther was on as Heather Chandler. Bayley made an excellent Martha. It's rather funny that they still haven't updated the cast on the website. It's a wonder anyone who doesn't know the show well can work out who they're seeing. A shame Teleri is leaving. She's an excellent Heather McNamara. Are we down to just Ailsa and Vicki who have been with this run of the show since the start? What did she do to the old man?! I was also at that performance and I didn't think it was any more vicious than usual (in face she cut it shorter than some I've seen) but they really shouldn't have picked him, he so clearly didn't want to stand up and wasn't laughing at all, it felt uncomfortable. They need to make a better effort to pick someone who looks more like they'd be up for going along with it.
ETA: I don't like or find the interaction part necessary though. Even though I am highly unlikely to ever be picked it puts me on edge knowing it's coming.
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Post by partytentdown on Jun 5, 2022 14:21:01 GMT
What did she do to the old man?! I was also at that performance and I didn't think it was any more vicious than usual (in face she cut it shorter than some I've seen) but they really shouldn't have picked him, he so clearly didn't want to stand up and wasn't laughing at all, it felt uncomfortable. They need to make a better effort to pick someone who looks more like they'd be up for going along with it.
ETA: I don't like or find the interaction part necessary though. Even though I am highly unlikely to ever be picked it puts me on edge knowing it's coming.
I haven't seen this since the original run and I can't remember this sort of thing happening, did it get added in? |
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 5, 2022 15:09:27 GMT
I did see the Wednesday matinee this week, with a fairly random cast (and a particularly mean spirited cover for Ms Fleming - I felt rather sorry for the elderly masked gentleman who forced to his feet, visibly shaking, then verbally bullied - and hope the venue refunded his ticket and issued an apology at the least). This sounds absolutely ghastly. I'm feeling slightly sick just reading about it. Why on earth do productions think that forcing interaction onto audience members is ever a good idea? If anyone ever did that to me in a theatre I'd be fleeing the auditorium in tears. |
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Post by danb on Jun 5, 2022 15:31:13 GMT
I really can’t see what the fuss is here? I have been Steved, and it is just a good natured bit of ribbing. It is up to us the audience to do our research; not the productions job to dilute their product just to make sure they don’t upset anyone. By all means put a disclaimer on advertising materials so that people know whats going to happen but sheesh, let them have some fun.
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Post by Dr Tom on Jun 5, 2022 15:59:54 GMT
I'm also unlikely to ever be chosen as Steve (especially as I'm nearly always sat on the front row), but yes I would take this in the spirit in which it's meant.
Now, my opinion here is that singling out someone clearly in their late 70s, sat much further back than usual, about the only person in the building wearing a mask, then making fun of them for being bald, without any attempt to be friendly and good natured as Vicki Lee Taylor does, goes beyond the boundaries. Now, I do appreciate that Georgina Hagen may not have personally picked the victim.
While I'm getting things off my chest, the other part of the show that always makes me uncomfortable is people bursting into laughter when one of the characters has to use a mobility scooter (bearing in mind there are often wheelchair users in the theatre). Thankfully the current cast have reigned that in a bit.
Anyway, glad to see they've managed to get Christopher Parkinson in this evening, so the show is going ahead. Benjamin Karran is on as JD as well, so I feel quite envious of anyone who is there!
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Post by JJShaw on Jun 5, 2022 16:07:11 GMT
I really can’t see what the fuss is here? I have been Steved, and it is just a good natured bit of ribbing. It is up to us the audience to do our research; not the productions job to dilute their product just to make sure they don’t upset anyone. By all means put a disclaimer on advertising materials so that people know whats going to happen but sheesh, let them have some fun. It is absolutely NOT up to the audience to do that kind research! The responsibility lies squarely with the performer being able to catch if the person they've picked is good to go along with it, and if not you most certainly do not double down on it and make a paying audience member feel uncomfortable, you softly and quickly finish the moment. It's quite thoughtless of you to say that it. An audience member who is going to see a standard show, not any immersive theatre or punchdrunk production, is not going to be expecting audience interaction. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I'm sure most people enjoy it, but the performer is in control, and they should never force someone to do something they don't want to or make an interaction feel awkward. That's being a bad performer and letting your ego take over: "I'M performing so I'M going to do what I want." |
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Post by danb on Jun 5, 2022 16:42:14 GMT
…and off I go again. Unbearable…
Since when did it become unacceptable for people to take responsibility for their own well being?
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Post by Seriously on Jun 5, 2022 17:16:21 GMT
It's a two-way street. You look after yourself, and you look after others'.
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Post by undeuxtrois on Jun 5, 2022 18:18:10 GMT
What did she do to the old man?! I was also at that performance and I didn't think it was any more vicious than usual (in face she cut it shorter than some I've seen) but they really shouldn't have picked him, he so clearly didn't want to stand up and wasn't laughing at all, it felt uncomfortable. They need to make a better effort to pick someone who looks more like they'd be up for going along with it.
ETA: I don't like or find the interaction part necessary though. Even though I am highly unlikely to ever be picked it puts me on edge knowing it's coming.
I think prior to the show they should ask all front row members of the audience if they’d be comfortable being picked as “Steve”, and to let the cast know who not to pick. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 5, 2022 19:51:02 GMT
Since when did it become unacceptable for people to take responsibility for their own well being? How would you suggest someone does that in the situation outlined, if the actor is ignoring the person's reluctance to engage? Most people are probably too polite/nervous to tell the actor to f*** off & stop talking at them, while making a rapid exit would be difficult if someone is sat in the middle of a row. |
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Post by danb on Jun 5, 2022 20:03:59 GMT
It is a widely known part of the show. If I had a problem with audience interaction I wouldn’t book a seat in the first three rows or wear noticeable clothing, especially if it was really a problem for me. I’d balance the probability of it happening to me vs how much I wanted to see the show. I’d choose resilience over fear. But that’s just me.
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Post by anthony on Jun 5, 2022 20:42:18 GMT
I'm also unlikely to ever be chosen as Steve (especially as I'm nearly always sat on the front row), but yes I would take this in the spirit in which it's meant. Now, my opinion here is that singling out someone clearly in their late 70s, sat much further back than usual, about the only person in the building wearing a mask, then making fun of them for being bald, without any attempt to be friendly and good natured as Vicki Lee Taylor does, goes beyond the boundaries. Now, I do appreciate that Georgina Hagen may not have personally picked the victim. While I'm getting things off my chest, the other part of the show that always makes me uncomfortable is people bursting into laughter when one of the characters has to use a mobility scooter (bearing in mind there are often wheelchair users in the theatre). Thankfully the current cast have reigned that in a bit. Anyway, glad to see they've managed to get Christopher Parkinson in this evening, so the show is going ahead. Benjamin Karran is on as JD as well, so I feel quite envious of anyone who is there! Oh, it is 100% the actors that choose the victim! During their run at Theatre Royal Haymarket, they released video vlogs and there is a video of Jordan Luke Gage and Lauren Ward looking through the set and choosing who she would single out. Personally, I'd make it more award for them and refuse to move or engage at all. I'd then be requesting a refund. |
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Post by Dr Tom on Jun 5, 2022 21:08:56 GMT
It is a widely known part of the show. If I had a problem with audience interaction I wouldn’t book a seat in the first three rows or wear noticeable clothing, especially if it was really a problem for me. I’d balance the probability of it happening to me vs how much I wanted to see the show. I’d choose resilience over fear. But that’s just me. About 10 rows back in this case. I'd say you have no chance of being chosen if you're sat in the first three rows (you're close enough to touch the actors). But no, I really don't think that people in their late 70s spend a lot of time looking through social media and forums to see if there might be audience interaction. If we're talking on this forum, we know more than most people attending the show. |
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Post by musicbox on Jun 5, 2022 22:30:50 GMT
In regards to the Steve bit, I seen the show in February and when I got to my seat realised that it was in prime Steve position. I'm a shy person at heart and stress out about being put on the spot like that, so I spent the first part of the second act with anxiety about potentially being picked. I was so relieved when the Steve that was picked turned out to be the guy right next to me instead - pheeeew! So I can definitely understand why people would feel really anxious about being picked, it's an introverts worst nightmare!
It was actually pretty funny to be fair because the man chosen had been crunching pop corn throughout the show, and Vicki said "I see you've been enjoying your pop corn and annoying everyone around you Steve' and everyone started howling with laughter - It just goes to show that the cast can hear it too!
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Post by Seriously on Jun 5, 2022 22:50:28 GMT
It is a widely known part of the show. If I had a problem with audience interaction I wouldn’t book a seat in the first three rows or wear noticeable clothing, especially if it was really a problem for me. I’d balance the probability of it happening to me vs how much I wanted to see the show. I’d choose resilience over fear. But that’s just me. Please do not touch Peter Andre Please do not tweet Carrie Hope Fletcher Please do not wear noticeable clothing |
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Post by westendfan2 on Jun 6, 2022 14:01:51 GMT
Daisy Twells has confirmed she will be reprising her role of new wave girl (assuming cover Mac and cover Chandler as well) from the 14th June taking over from Hannah Lowther after she leaves on the 12th June.
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Jun 6, 2022 14:23:07 GMT
Daisy Twells has confirmed she will be reprising her role of new wave girl (assuming cover Mac and cover Chandler as well) Oh good. Daisy was meant to be doing Cinderella right? I'm glad she's managed to get something else to replace that  |
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Post by westendfan2 on Jun 6, 2022 14:40:26 GMT
Daisy Twells has confirmed she will be reprising her role of new wave girl (assuming cover Mac and cover Chandler as well) Oh good. Daisy was meant to be doing Cinderella right? I'm glad she's managed to get something else to replace that Yes, Daisy was meant to be doing Cinderella, so it’s very nice to see she’s managed to find something else |
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Post by stagebyte on Jun 7, 2022 8:33:45 GMT
With the announcement of the OLC Proshot of Six. Anyone know why they didn’t get the OG cast of Heathers for their pro shot?
As Cinderella was closing they could’ve waited a couple of weeks for Miss Fletcher?
I’m not offering a view on ‘best’ casts. Just wondering about the economics of filming a lesser known cast?
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Post by JJShaw on Jun 7, 2022 8:47:10 GMT
It was probably a lot easier to get six peoples schedules to line up than the size of the heathers cast (whatever that may be hehe). I suppose they could have tried for the three heathers, veronica, JD and Martha, thats six? But I would assume the reasoning was schedules?
Bernadette Peters returned to Sunday in the Park to film that but... who else is Bernadette?!
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Post by cezbear on Jun 7, 2022 9:01:16 GMT
Perhaps an age thing too? Some of the OG cast were pushing it at the time and certainly now. The cast now just works better age wise.
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