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Post by bellboard27 on Apr 21, 2017 14:15:54 GMT
Seems there is not a separate thread on this. First preview tonight (21 April). I'm going so will see how this is.
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Post by bellboard27 on Apr 21, 2017 22:14:58 GMT
Started 10 mins late, run time 3hrs. Out at 10.45.
Big changes in the layout. Downstairs seating gone and replaced by tables and wooden chairs so action is in the round. Even the circle goes to 4 sides rather than 3.
Spent the first half with a grin on my face - very enjoyable performances and direction. Tom Edden steels several scenes from the prologue on. 2nd half darker, more violent.
There is quite a lot of audience participation - several individuals and collectively.
Overall it was in good shape for a first preview. Audience very enthusiastic.
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Post by Jan on Apr 22, 2017 8:52:16 GMT
There is quite a lot of audience participation. Oh God. Why do theatres warn you about smoke effects and loud bangs but not this even more distressing feature ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 9:15:44 GMT
I am really wanting to see this as it sounds very interesting but how easy is it to get klaxon tickets and how much are they?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 9:29:12 GMT
There is quite a lot of audience participation. Oh God. Why do theatres warn you about smoke effects and loud bangs but not this even more distressing feature ? If you choose to go and see something with Lenny Henry in it you deserve everything you get. |
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Post by wickedgrin on Apr 22, 2017 10:00:48 GMT
I bought a Klaxon ticket the other day! You have to remember to be online around 10-15 minutes before midday and then you are allocated a random number in the queue when booking opens. I was 24th in the queue which went down quickly! All the stalls tickets were gone (or unavailable in the scheme) but got a front row side circle seat. I did not have any problem.
Loathe audience participation though! I am hoping I am safe in the circle!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 11:51:57 GMT
Seeing this tonight! Any warnings on what the audience participation is and how to avoid it would be very welcome - we're not going to have to actually goose step round the stage are we...?
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Post by bellboard27 on Apr 22, 2017 12:17:32 GMT
Seeing this tonight! Any warnings on what the audience participation is and how to avoid it would be very welcome - we're not going to have to actually goose step round the stage are we...? Downstairs various audience members are involved as a dead body, carriers of kerosene, defendant in a trial, etc. There is also one simple request for all audience activity right at the end. If you are downstairs, before it starts you might get to have a dance with some of the cast as the jazz plays in the Chicago club. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 14:36:44 GMT
Seeing this tonight! Any warnings on what the audience participation is and how to avoid it would be very welcome - we're not going to have to actually goose step round the stage are we...? Downstairs various audience members are involved as a dead body, carriers of kerosene, defendant in a trial, etc. There is also one simple request for all audience activity right at the end. If you are downstairs, before it starts you might get to have a dance with some of the cast as the jazz plays in the Chicago club. Oh Christ... Definitely having a pre-theatre drink! |
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Post by David J on Apr 24, 2017 11:50:20 GMT
Thought I'd practice the Klaxon booking today. I'm planning to get two tickets either next week or the one afterwards.
Joined at 11.45 and started off at 150. By the time I got through what stall seats were available had already gone and remaining circle seats were nearing the extreme far side seats (I suppose those will be all right since this is in-the-round
Also noticed there are extra circle seats at the back of the stage. What are those bellboard27?
Does the pre-queue Klaxon webpage appear at 11.45 or earlier?
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Post by edmundokeano on Apr 24, 2017 12:28:59 GMT
Oh God. Why do theatres warn you about smoke effects and loud bangs but not this even more distressing feature ? If you choose to go and see something with Lenny Henry in it you deserve everything you get. I go to see almost everything staged at The Donmar but refuse to go and watch him! |
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Post by zahidf on Apr 24, 2017 12:54:09 GMT
I got a Klaxon ticket, Circle second row side. I'm on the last seat of the row, so I can move once the play is started if I spot a better seat...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 15:36:55 GMT
I got a Klaxon ticket, Circle second row side. I'm on the last seat of the row, so I can move once the play is started if I spot a better seat... . . . or the exit. |
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Post by bingomatic on Apr 26, 2017 20:23:30 GMT
Not the dreaded audience participation ! Last time I saw any of that at the Donmar was Privacy.
That, however, was okay. I have my doubts about it this time.
Hope to see plenty of reassuring posts.
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Post by skullion on Apr 26, 2017 20:45:02 GMT
Same here, from memory my seat is at the end of a row in the stalls which seems a slightly prime position to get picked on, added to that I have prior history with Lenny Henry having been singled out by him at a stand up show of his I went to many years ago! Very much hoping there is an element of choice with this show, I'm sure there are lots of people who like to get involved on stage at things like this, I am very much not one of them!
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Post by lynette on Apr 26, 2017 21:17:50 GMT
Not the dreaded audience participation ! Last time I saw any of that at the Donmar was Privacy. That, however, was okay. I have my doubts about it this time. Hope to see plenty of reassuring posts. The audience participation in Privacy was part of the 'plot' as it were. And brilliant really. Though I didn't like the whole shebang. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 21:32:10 GMT
Really didn't like this
Like a school play
Awful acting
I left halfway through
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 21:33:32 GMT
It is so inferior to the Henry Goodman version
It doesn't even seem like the same play
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Post by showgirl on Apr 27, 2017 4:09:19 GMT
Going to start a thread in General Discussion on audience participation as it's evidently a hot topic; do join me there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 8:10:57 GMT
I too wasn't a big fan of this, though I feel like that might end up being a minority opinion. I suppose my main annoyances were:
1) It’s another example of what seems to be the emerging Donmar house style of assuming your audience is too stupid to get allusions if you don’t signpost them (literally in one case). It’s an incredibly timely play and I think we’re all smart enough to read that – there was no need to turn him into Arturo Trump. And if you’re going to turn him into Arturo Trump you have to do it better than this.
2) Audience participation – examples include people being brought up to pass stuff (so no speaking), someone being taken off stage to be shot and then brought in on a stretcher as a (shaking and giggling) corpse. I get that it’s Brechtian and I also get that part of this play is turning the audience into the passive, assenting public that lets dictators rise to power. It was still irritating, distracting and made me tense throughout the play.
At the end, the audience was asked to simply stand as part of the plot; the trouble is:
a – we are British and we hate that kind of thing
b – we’re not stupid and we know we’re being asked to be the passive, assenting public that lets dictators rise to power
The upshot being that we didn’t cooperate, apart from a few people. That created a very awkward situation in that the play was slightly derailed by it. So the actors shouted and threatened the audience for ages trying to get us to cooperate, including directing it at individuals in a way that started to feel like bullying (to me anyway). In the end, they gave up and pretending most of the audience was standing, and carried on. This was a preview so hopefully they’ll rethink it, if every night ends up like that.
3) I love this play but I have no prob with re-writes, versions of, inspired bys, new translations, etc. However the line ‘the bitch that bore him is in heat again’ is hugely powerful and incredibly relevant. If you’re going to cut it, you have to do better than ‘2016 was a sh*t year’. There were shades of the last two mins of Limehouse...
The audience was fairly warm at the curtain call so, as I said, I think this might be a minority opinion from a grumpy person!
Interestingly it didn’t feel long to me, whereas the Goodman production (which I loved and saw several times) did – perhaps because I was concentrating hard throughout, whereas this just washed over me. I wasn’t bored but I wasn’t gripped.
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Post by zahidf on Apr 27, 2017 8:13:25 GMT
I too wasn't a big fan of this, though I feel like that might end up being a minority opinion. I suppose my main annoyances were: 1) It’s another example of what seems to be the emerging Donmar house style of assuming your audience is too stupid to get allusions if you don’t signpost them (literally in one case). It’s an incredibly timely play and I think we’re all smart enough to read that – there was no need to turn him into Arturo Trump. And if you’re going to turn him into Arturo Trump you have to do it better than this. 2) Audience participation – examples include people being brought up to pass stuff (so no speaking), someone being taken off stage to be shot and then brought in on a stretcher as a (shaking and giggling) corpse. I get that it’s Brechtian and I also get that part of this play is turning the audience into the passive, assenting public that lets dictators rise to power. It was still irritating, distracting and made me tense throughout the play. At the end, the audience was asked to simply stand as part of the plot; the trouble is: a – we are British and we hate that kind of thing b – we’re not stupid and we know we’re being asked to be the passive, assenting public that lets dictators rise to power The upshot being that we didn’t cooperate, apart from a few people. That created a very awkward situation in that the play was slightly derailed by it. So the actors shouted and threatened the audience for ages trying to get us to cooperate, including directing it at individuals in a way that started to feel like bullying (to me anyway). In the end, they gave up and pretending most of the audience was standing, and carried on. This was a preview so hopefully they’ll rethink it, if every night ends up like that. 3) I love this play but I have no prob with re-writes, versions of, inspired bys, new translations, etc. However the line ‘the bitch that bore him is in heat again’ is hugely powerful and incredibly relevant. If you’re going to cut it, you have to do better than ‘2016 was a sh*t year’. There were shades of the last two mins of Limehouse... The audience was fairly warm at the curtain call so, as I said, I think this might be a minority opinion from a grumpy person! Interestingly it didn’t feel long to me, whereas the Goodman production (which I loved and saw several times) did – perhaps because I was concentrating hard throughout, whereas this just washed over me. I wasn’t bored but I wasn’t gripped.
Was it the audience participation which ruined it for you do you think?
( I'm in the Circle, so I'm not particularly worried about that.)
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Post by lynette on Apr 27, 2017 8:47:40 GMT
O hell. Sounds like the kind of thing I hate. They won't get me to stand at the end, honeybunch. But I have always wanted to see this play having missed it previously.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 8:49:23 GMT
The audience participation was irritating but I think my other objections would stand without it. I guess I felt that I was being patronised with a dumbed down production that thought I was too stupid to understand the play.
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Post by edmundokeano on Apr 27, 2017 8:51:31 GMT
Really didn't like this Like a school play Awful acting I left halfway through I'm amazed people pay to watch Lenny Henry!
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Post by schuttep on Apr 27, 2017 8:57:46 GMT
When I booked, I'm sure the plan was the usual one. I'm in the stalls B25 so how's that going to work with tables?
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