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Post by d'James on May 26, 2017 14:15:49 GMT
I love the music from the Jason Donovan recording but when I saw it last year they'd made some changes that I hated!! They've done a McElderry recording too - haven't got round to listening to it. Song of the King is not great if you ask me. I've got that recording and listened to bits of it and it's quite good but if I remember correctly, they've included the silly bits I don't like. |
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Post by sirdaniel on May 26, 2017 14:16:41 GMT
They've done a McElderry recording too - haven't got round to listening to it. Song of the King is not great if you ask me. I've got that recording and listened to bits of it and it's quite good but if I remember correctly, they've included the silly bits I don't like. Ah. It was on Spotify for about 48 hours so I added it to my playlist but when I looked again it had gone. So just haven't bothered. |
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Post by d'James on May 26, 2017 14:17:16 GMT
It's got a nice cover but no cast list inside which is infuriating.
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Post by sirdaniel on May 26, 2017 14:18:01 GMT
It's got a nice cover but no cast list inside which is infuriating. I really don't know why they didn't have Lucy Kay et al on it. Her voice is powerful. |
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Post by theatremadness on May 26, 2017 14:34:43 GMT
That Joseph recording with Joe McElderry is a previous cast recording (can't remember which one, the most recent? Is there a UK Tour one from a while back?) but just Joe's vocals replacing whoever was Joseph on that recording originally. I'll try and find out unless someone else already knows!!
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Post by sirdaniel on May 26, 2017 14:37:54 GMT
That Joseph recording with Joe McElderry is a previous cast recording (can't remember which one, the most recent? Is there a UK Tour one from a while back?) but just Joe's vocals replacing whoever was Joseph on that recording originally. I'll try and find out unless someone else already knows!! Ah - good to know! I assumed it was an entirely new recording but with 'random' people and Joe instead of the current tour cast. |
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Post by johartuk on May 26, 2017 14:56:48 GMT
That Joseph recording with Joe McElderry is a previous cast recording (can't remember which one, the most recent? Is there a UK Tour one from a while back?) but just Joe's vocals replacing whoever was Joseph on that recording originally. I'll try and find out unless someone else already knows!! From what I understand, it's the 2009 tour cast recording with the 2009 Joseph (Craig Chalmers) replaced by Joe McElderry. Re: the Palladium performance by Joe - his voice is great, but the performance seemed a bit 'showy', which is fine for ADWD, but not really for CED, which is a poignant song. The 'twiddly bits' in CED were odd - I much prefer it to be sung as written, rather than with daft deviations from the simple, haunting melody. I also think it would have been better for Joe to have sung CED first, then followed it up with ADWD, to end the performance on a cheery note. |
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Post by daniel on May 26, 2017 14:56:53 GMT
It's the 2009 UK Tour cast, with Joe's vocals added  |
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Post by sirdaniel on May 26, 2017 23:41:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 6:49:07 GMT
That, I'm reasonably sure, is the first recording of Joesph fromewhere between 1967 & 1969 depending on who you believe, presented as a concept album, sounding very much of its time. Apart from Tim Rice as Pharoah, it's basically all sung as narration.
1969 - The Joseph Consortium
This earliest recording (released on the Decca label, catalogue number SKL 4973) of Joseph followed the earliest performances at Colet Court and the Westminster Central Hall. As the show was still in its earliest stages of being written (and the now-recognised running order would not be finalised until the 1991 London revival), this recording is noticeably shorter than subsequent recordings and performances. Songs such as "Jacob and Sons" and "Song of the King" lack verses, while songs such as "One More Angel in Heaven", "A Pharaoh Story", and "Benjamin Calypso" are absent entirely. Indeed, the sleeve notes to this recording (by Derek Jewell, then Jazz and Pop Critic of the Sunday Times) provide an insight into the creation of the show, pointing out that "Potiphar" and "Song of the King" are new additions for this recording. Also of note is that side 1 of the record ends with "Close Every Door" (future vinyl and cassette releases would end side 1 with "Go, Go, Go Joseph", where act 1 of theatrical performances usually ends).
The performance is credited to The Joseph Consortium, which is the same group of people who performed the show at Colet Court and Westminster Central Hall. David Daltrey (front man of British psychedlic band Tales of Justine) played the role of Joseph[3] (although not specifically credited with any role apart from "vocals" on the sleeve), and also played lead guitar. Support came from a band going by the name of The Mixed Bag (consisting of Terry Saunders - vocals and rhythm guitar; Malcolm Parry - vocals and bass guitar; John Cook - vocals and organ; and Bryan Watson - vocals and drums), with an unnamed orchestra conducted by Alan Doggett, and The Colet Court Choir. William Lloyd Webber (Andrew's father) played Hammond Organ, while Tim Rice played the part of Pharaoh. |
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Post by sirdaniel on May 27, 2017 10:16:09 GMT
That, I'm reasonably sure, is the first recording of Joesph fromewhere between 1967 & 1969 depending on who you believe, presented as a concept album, sounding very much of its time. Apart from Tim Rice as Pharoah, it's basically all sung as narration.
1969 - The Joseph Consortium
This earliest recording (released on the Decca label, catalogue number SKL 4973) of Joseph followed the earliest performances at Colet Court and the Westminster Central Hall. As the show was still in its earliest stages of being written (and the now-recognised running order would not be finalised until the 1991 London revival), this recording is noticeably shorter than subsequent recordings and performances. Songs such as "Jacob and Sons" and "Song of the King" lack verses, while songs such as "One More Angel in Heaven", "A Pharaoh Story", and "Benjamin Calypso" are absent entirely. Indeed, the sleeve notes to this recording (by Derek Jewell, then Jazz and Pop Critic of the Sunday Times) provide an insight into the creation of the show, pointing out that "Potiphar" and "Song of the King" are new additions for this recording. Also of note is that side 1 of the record ends with "Close Every Door" (future vinyl and cassette releases would end side 1 with "Go, Go, Go Joseph", where act 1 of theatrical performances usually ends).
The performance is credited to The Joseph Consortium, which is the same group of people who performed the show at Colet Court and Westminster Central Hall. David Daltrey (front man of British psychedlic band Tales of Justine) played the role of Joseph[3] (although not specifically credited with any role apart from "vocals" on the sleeve), and also played lead guitar. Support came from a band going by the name of The Mixed Bag (consisting of Terry Saunders - vocals and rhythm guitar; Malcolm Parry - vocals and bass guitar; John Cook - vocals and organ; and Bryan Watson - vocals and drums), with an unnamed orchestra conducted by Alan Doggett, and The Colet Court Choir. William Lloyd Webber (Andrew's father) played Hammond Organ, while Tim Rice played the part of Pharaoh.Brilliant! Never heard that. |
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Post by CG on the loose on May 27, 2017 13:28:21 GMT
Pics here of the original Joseph (David Daltrey) and The Mixed Bag among others at the 40th Anniversary of Joseph during its run at the Adelphi in 2008... www.coda-uk.co.uk/jo.htm |
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Post by steve10086 on May 27, 2017 14:33:04 GMT
Pics here of the original Joseph (David Daltrey) and The Mixed Bag among others at the 40th Anniversary of Joseph during its run at the Adelphi in 2008... www.coda-uk.co.uk/jo.htmI was there that night - was cool to see the "originals" |
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Post by CG on the loose on May 27, 2017 15:04:39 GMT
Pics here of the original Joseph (David Daltrey) and The Mixed Bag among others at the 40th Anniversary of Joseph during its run at the Adelphi in 2008... www.coda-uk.co.uk/jo.htmI was there that night - was cool to see the "originals" So was I ... it was indeed cool, though if you'd asked me to pick the 'Joseph' out of the line-up that night without any other information, Mr Daltrey is the last one I'd have picked lol |
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Post by steve10086 on May 28, 2017 1:17:56 GMT
I was there that night - was cool to see the "originals" So was I ... it was indeed cool, though if you'd asked me to pick the 'Joseph' out of the line-up that night without any other information, Mr Daltrey is the last one I'd have picked lol Hehe Yep, I know exactly what you mean |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 22:45:48 GMT
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Post by d'James on Jun 18, 2017 23:32:38 GMT
Unintentional error? There has to have been an intention to change lyrics or cut songs.
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Post by sirdaniel on Jun 18, 2017 23:37:34 GMT
We've unintentionally edited the word and unintentionally printed hundreds of copied. Totally unintentionally.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 6:50:43 GMT
Don't really know where to put this, as there are like three different threads on Joseph and I'm not starting a whole new thread so I'm just going with the one most recently commented on: Anywho, a New Zealand production are in the sh*t. Apprently they changed a lyric in Close Every Door from Children of Isreal to Children of Kindness, and a woman tweeted to Tim Rice and he responded asking can they explain, permission was not granted. To further this, Tim also responded to reports of two songs being cut from this production as well: I saw a student production at Princeton years back and they kept pronouncing "Israel" as "Is-rye-el", rather than "Is-ray-el", and it was wicked annoying. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 6:55:10 GMT
To further this, Tim also responded to reports of two songs being cut from this production as well: Anyone who wants to cut King Of My Heart has my full admiration and support. Whyever did they add this piece of crap? It clearly makes the show worse. |
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Post by richey on Jun 19, 2017 11:03:12 GMT
Looking at that attached tweet it looks like they changed more than just "Israel" in the first verse. Wasn't the original lyric"hate me and laugh at me" and "torture my nights"? |
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Post by johartuk on Jun 19, 2017 14:35:14 GMT
Looking at that attached tweet it looks like they changed more than just "Israel" in the first verse. Wasn't the original lyric"hate me and laugh at me" and "torture my nights"? Yes! I've just listened to the song (as performed in the 2007 Adelphi production) to confirm it! The verse that starts "Just give me a number instead of my name, forget all about me and let me decay..." also seems to be completely missing from that 'revised' lyric sheet in the BWW article! No wonder Sir Tim is so angry! It's really bizarre! Why would they remove bits of the song? Especially bits that give the song its resonance! |
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Post by showtoones on Jun 19, 2017 15:00:27 GMT
There was talk that Joseph was coming to the West End later this year. Are there still plans to make this happen?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 16:17:27 GMT
Anyone else remember Richard Swerrun's turn as Joseph?
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