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Post by lynette on Feb 23, 2017 19:55:31 GMT
A reprise? Or another go at it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 20:11:09 GMT
Willy or won'ty? That's more the question.
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Post by Jan on Feb 24, 2017 16:54:56 GMT
A reprise? Or another go at it? Totally new production. I can't think of that many examples of an actor in the modern era playing a major Shakespeare role twice twice. Rylance did two Hamlets and Michael Pennigton did two Lears. Patrick Stewart has played Shylock in three different productions, likewise Helen Mirren and Cleopatra.
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Post by lynette on Feb 24, 2017 17:16:57 GMT
Well a bonus, he knows the words. What if the production isn't as good as the RSC one? I know some people didn't rate it but I thought it was v good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 17:19:54 GMT
Well a bonus, he knows the words. Er, this is Ian McKellen we're talking about. He can busk and mumble to give a credible approximation to the words. Someone who prepares and operates the captions for captioned performances told me that he doesn't like them because the captions are often at variance with his utterances.
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Post by lynette on Feb 24, 2017 17:37:12 GMT
I love it when they make up Shakespeare. A good party game. ( also Chaucer)
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Post by Jan on Feb 24, 2017 18:06:43 GMT
Well a bonus, he knows the words. Er, this is Ian McKellen we're talking about. He can busk and mumble to give a credible approximation to the words. Someone who prepares and operates the captions for captioned performances told me that he doesn't like them because the captions are often at variance with his utterances. Michael Gambon the master of that, I happened to see a captioned performance of his Falstaff and it was very approximate. Of course I assume most actors are like that.
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Post by bordeaux on Feb 24, 2017 21:07:11 GMT
A reprise? Or another go at it? Totally new production. I can't think of that many examples of an actor in the modern era playing a major Shakespeare role twice twice. Rylance did two Hamlets and Michael Pennigton did two Lears. Patrick Stewart has played Shylock in three different productions, likewise Helen Mirren and Cleopatra. Branagh two Hamlets, one for his own company, Renaissance, directed by Derek Jacobi, one directed by Adrian Noble for RSC. Plus a film, I suppose.
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Post by johng on Feb 24, 2017 21:13:37 GMT
Aiming to get this booked tomorrow before heading off to Bristol for Othello and Two Gents, and then on Sunday Orpheus and Eurydice in the Clifton Suspension Bridge!
They're limiting this production to 2 tickets per member so hopefully there will be something left for those relying on public booking. After the wonderful Lear at the Minerva in 2013, this has me really excited, again combining my favourite theatre space with my favourite play.
The Chichester announcement wording "the ensemble will include Ian McKellen" had made me wonder if he was going to play Gloucester or the Fool, given the disappointing rarity of actors revisiting the major Shakespeare roles in different productions, but I guess not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 21:48:03 GMT
The Chichester announcement wording "the ensemble will include Ian McKellen" had made me wonder if he was going to play Gloucester or the Fool, given the disappointing rarity of actors revisiting the major Shakespeare roles in different productions, but I guess not. It could be like Mary Stuart where the roles of Mary and Elizabeth were alternated, dependant on a coin-toss. At Chichester, Lear and the Fool could alternate. So some nights you see Ian McKellen as Lear and Penelope Keith as the Fool. And on other nights, vice versa.
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Post by martin1965 on Feb 25, 2017 9:33:55 GMT
Just looking again at the site and interestingly it doesnt specify that McKellen is playing Lear, just that he is part of the ensemble. Will try and book next sat, am not a friend, fingers crossed it doesnt sellout in oriority period.
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Post by Jan on Feb 25, 2017 13:36:40 GMT
Just looking again at the site and interestingly it doesnt specify that McKellen is playing Lear, just that he is part of the ensemble. Will try and book next sat, am not a friend, fingers crossed it doesnt sellout in oriority period. What do you make of their claim it will be an "ensemble" production ? Seems to be a sentence entirely devoid of meaning for a one-off production. Looks more like a "star vehicle" production to me if they insist on categorising it. It was possible to book the Patrick Stewart Macbeth and McKellen's last Minerva outing with no difficulty on public booking day, so there is hope.
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Post by martin1965 on Feb 25, 2017 18:17:48 GMT
Just looking again at the site and interestingly it doesnt specify that McKellen is playing Lear, just that he is part of the ensemble. Will try and book next sat, am not a friend, fingers crossed it doesnt sellout in oriority period. What do you make of their claim it will be an "ensemble" production ? Seems to be a sentence entirely devoid of meaning for a one-off production. Looks more like a "star vehicle" production to me if they insist on categorising it. It was possible to book the Patrick Stewart Macbeth and McKellen's last Minerva outing with no difficulty on public booking day, so there is hope. Its odd isnt it! You would think the usual Chichester patrons would expect to see "Ian McKellen as King Lear" the casting will be interesting. In his last go at RSC ten years ago, the prospect of the long world tour put actors off and La Barber apart it wasnt exactly star packed. Still the prospect of two months on the south ciast may sugar the pill! How about alternating with say Pennington or Stewart as Lear and Gloucester? Thanks for the tip.
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Post by Jan on Feb 25, 2017 21:21:19 GMT
What do you make of their claim it will be an "ensemble" production ? Seems to be a sentence entirely devoid of meaning for a one-off production. Looks more like a "star vehicle" production to me if they insist on categorising it. It was possible to book the Patrick Stewart Macbeth and McKellen's last Minerva outing with no difficulty on public booking day, so there is hope. Its odd isnt it! You would think the usual Chichester patrons would expect to see "Ian McKellen as King Lear" the casting will be interesting. In his last go at RSC ten years ago, the prospect of the long world tour put actors off and La Barber apart it wasnt exactly star packed. Still the prospect of two months on the south ciast may sugar the pill! How about alternating with say Pennington or Stewart as Lear and Gloucester? Thanks for the tip. Not star packed ? Tell that to the John Hefferman fans here. Also Romona Garai and Monica Dolan.
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Post by martin1965 on Feb 25, 2017 22:38:56 GMT
Not a complaint from me. Have you read the David Weston book?
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Post by Jan on Feb 26, 2017 10:37:43 GMT
Not a complaint from me. Have you read the David Weston book? Of course. And I think that book is the real reason they are deploying the word "ensemble" here.
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Post by bordeaux on Feb 26, 2017 11:01:50 GMT
Its odd isnt it! You would think the usual Chichester patrons would expect to see "Ian McKellen as King Lear" the casting will be interesting. In his last go at RSC ten years ago, the prospect of the long world tour put actors off and La Barber apart it wasnt exactly star packed. Still the prospect of two months on the south ciast may sugar the pill! How about alternating with say Pennington or Stewart as Lear and Gloucester? Thanks for the tip. Not star packed ? Tell that to the John Hefferman fans here. Also Romona Garai and Monica Dolan. And the unbelievably irritating Sylvester McCoy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 11:53:31 GMT
"Hefferman". Who didn't really have a following back in the mid-2000s, and wouldn't have developed one for playing the role of Oswald. I reckon the stars of the piece would have been McKellen, Barber, McCoy, and Garai (the latter seemingly very much to the distaste of David Weston who, in his book, *just* about refrains from calling half the cast star-f*ckers for being cordial/welcoming/friendly/whatever towards her).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 12:43:28 GMT
Not star packed ? Tell that to the John Hefferman fans here. Also Romona Garai and Monica Dolan. And the unbelievably irritating Sylvester McCoy. ... who insisted on winkling into the role his skill for playing the spoons according to David Weston in Covering McKellen! (Offstage aswell as on, apparently!)
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Post by peggs on Feb 26, 2017 21:42:20 GMT
Oh that book was a fun read!
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Post by Peach on Feb 27, 2017 15:29:55 GMT
I'm Lear'd out so will be giving this one a miss (and then regretting it for everymore I expect).
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Post by wickedgrin on Feb 27, 2017 16:54:00 GMT
I'm Lear'd out so will be giving this one a miss (and then regretting it for everymore I expect). Yes, indeed and I read somewhere that Denzel Washington wanted to play Lear in the West End!
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Post by martin1965 on Mar 4, 2017 10:03:14 GMT
Phew! Half hour wait on the BO queue but got two tix for the final sat mat, my son is at drama school in London so we are going as a treat. Most tix had gone unless you were alone or willing to sit apart! Looking forward to casting now.
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Post by callum on Mar 4, 2017 13:00:01 GMT
Doh - I booked a single ticket on Saturday 21st not realising there were 16-25 discount tickets for this run. If I tried to exchange the tickets with the BO would they only give me the difference back in Chichester vouchers? Or would I be better off passing it on to someone on here?
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Post by callum on Mar 4, 2017 13:43:32 GMT
Doh - I booked a single ticket on Saturday 21st not realising there were 16-25 discount tickets for this run. If I tried to exchange the tickets with the BO would they only give me the difference back in Chichester vouchers? Or would I be better off passing it on to someone on here? It's on the site now if anyone missed out!
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