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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 3, 2017 2:07:40 GMT
As we know Richard Stilgoe started writhing the score for the hit Phantom of the Opera which I saw this afternoon, he has equal billing in the programme with Charles Hart, who Richard recommended as he couldn't do the score and Charles stepped in (what a career break that was). However I have never found out who wrote what parts and would be fascinated to find out, if anyone knows?
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Post by ali973 on Feb 3, 2017 6:21:32 GMT
Richard fully wrote the Sydmonton version, which you can find here and there on the web if someone is willing to send it to you. I believe Charles was brought in to rewrite and to build on what Richard started, well after Sydmonton ended.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 3, 2017 6:50:09 GMT
I thought Lloyd Webber wrote the score? Or rather plagerised some Puccini ...
Are we talking about score, lyrics or book?
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Post by ali973 on Feb 3, 2017 6:58:05 GMT
I'm sure Phantom of London meant lyrics.
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Post by Sven on Feb 3, 2017 7:42:08 GMT
From Stilgoe's website:
"Then they sent round a copy of a novel called The Phantom of the Opera. I had seen various film versions of this, and I read this, and I thought “this isn’t really me, but I’ll have a go”. I did have a go, but it wasn’t really me, and after a year or so my re-writes were not better, just different, so Andrew and I parted company, and the brilliant Charles Hart came in and wrote the version everyone knows today. To be absolutely clear about it, the book and the ‘shape’ of the show are Andrew’s and mine, all but one of the song titles are the original titles Andrew and I decided on together, and whenever I go and see the show I am surprised how much of my material is still there. But the lyrics of the big numbers – the songs that made the show a hit – belong to Charles Hart – apart from perhaps Music of the Night, which is about half-and-half."
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 4, 2017 0:38:48 GMT
I thought Lloyd Webber wrote the score? Or rather plagerised some Puccini ... Are we talking about score, lyrics or book? Oh sour grapes? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 8:40:00 GMT
From Stilgoe's website: "Then they sent round a copy of a novel called The Phantom of the Opera. I had seen various film versions of this, and I read this, and I thought “this isn’t really me, but I’ll have a go”. I did have a go, but it wasn’t really me, and after a year or so my re-writes were not better, just different, so Andrew and I parted company, and the brilliant Charles Hart came in and wrote the version everyone knows today. To be absolutely clear about it, the book and the ‘shape’ of the show are Andrew’s and mine, all but one of the song titles are the original titles Andrew and I decided on together, and whenever I go and see the show I am surprised how much of my material is still there. But the lyrics of the big numbers – the songs that made the show a hit – belong to Charles Hart – apart from perhaps Music of the Night, which is about half-and-half." What a gracious man... An interesting read. Thanks Sven. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 20:32:26 GMT
I thought Lloyd Webber wrote the score? Or rather plagerised some Puccini ... Are we talking about score, lyrics or book? He also rather blatantly plagiarised Rick Wakeman... Quite obvious which section... 2min30seconds. |
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Post by anthony40 on Feb 5, 2017 20:42:10 GMT
Slightly off topic I do realise but a caught an amusing screening of Meet The Goldbergs today where they tried to stage a school production of The Phantom of the Opera.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 6, 2017 10:20:36 GMT
I thought Lloyd Webber wrote the score? Or rather plagerised some Puccini ... Are we talking about score, lyrics or book? Oh sour grapes? Eh? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 11:43:19 GMT
Slightly off topic I do realise but a caught an amusing screening of Meet The Goldbergs today where they tried to stage a school production of The Phantom of the Opera. Phantom is done a lot by High schools in the US. I've watched some of them on YouTube and some of them having amazing sets and great singers. The talent is fantastic for their age. I can't imagine many schools here being able to pull if off. |
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Post by ptwest on Feb 6, 2017 19:50:42 GMT
I'll suggest it as my school's next production - might need an edit / complete rewrite to make it suitable for 10 year olds. Mind you, my plans for a production of Starlight Express keep being vetoed on health and safety grounds so wont expect too much success.
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Post by fiyero on Feb 6, 2017 21:03:44 GMT
I'll suggest it as my school's next production - might need an edit / complete rewrite to make it suitable for 10 year olds. Mind you, my plans for a production of Starlight Express keep being vetoed on health and safety grounds so wont expect too much success. Our local youth group did Starlight Express, the first time I saw it with real races! It was smashing, even though I feared having a train land in my lap. Keeping it on topic I also saw what I think was one of the first youth productions of Phantom by a youth group in Christchurch. I remember it being great and funny that they could only fit half of the orchestra in the pit, the other half were in the bar! |
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