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Post by infofreako on Jun 2, 2017 6:30:10 GMT
Will be missing this due to my irrational dislike of Elaine Paige. Can't help but think Charlie Stemp could've found something better than panto to follow half a sixpence
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 7:01:58 GMT
Cast seem good! Is there more names this year competed to last? What about Alice? Wonder if she'll be a MT star
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 7:17:14 GMT
Cast seem good! Is there more names this year competed to last? What about Alice? Wonder if she'll be a MT star Alice and Alderman Fitzwarren are yet to be announced, as is the Emperor of Morocco. |
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Post by steve10086 on Jun 2, 2017 10:02:53 GMT
Will be missing this due to my irrational dislike of Elaine Paige. Can't help but think Charlie Stemp could've found something better than panto to follow half a sixpence I'd have thought this was a good move for him. Having his name amongst a list of established "stars" like that. Who is in this will receive more public attention that who is in an average musical, and more people will hear his name. |
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Post by infofreako on Jun 2, 2017 10:15:12 GMT
Last year Natasha Barnes, this charlie stemp. Clearly they plan to pick up a musical theatre rising star each year.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jun 2, 2017 10:30:10 GMT
Diversity are the worst part for me personally. Talented guys, but their routines get old fast, and can be very long and are basically designed to just be filler for a show that will likely already be long. Oh, I agree. Last years panto was 3 hours - and this years will be the same - far too long! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 10:38:00 GMT
Disappointing cast after last year, but they set the bar very high for O'Grady & Clary.
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 2, 2017 10:47:22 GMT
A perfectly fine move for Charlie after Sixpence. Title role at the Palladium with some celebs. Not sure what it would do for him career wise; I didn't see last year's Cinderella, but I've seen my fair share of Panto, and the title role never has any fun. Much like Natasha Barnes' Cinderella, as I'm lead to believe, Charlie will be the 'straight man' to everyone else's joker, dame, villain etc, he'll possibly sing and dance a bit, not much unlike what he's doing now but probably with a bit less dialogue (should note that I still haven't seen Sixpence yet, either), whilst everyone else around him will out-shine him completely and he'll get metaphorically pushed to the back. He's good, but it will take a lot to match the stage skills of some of the old pro's without getting swamped by them. Still, there are worse ways to spend 5 weeks at Christmas!
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Post by nrets001 on Jun 2, 2017 10:51:44 GMT
A perfectly fine move for Charlie after Sixpence. Title role at the Palladium with some celebs. Not sure what it would do for him career wise; I didn't see last year's Cinderella, but I've seen my fair share of Panto, and the title role never has any fun. Much like Natasha Barnes' Cinderella, as I'm lead to believe, Charlie will be the 'straight man' to everyone else's joker, dame, villain etc, he'll possibly sing and dance a bit, not much unlike what he's doing now but probably with a bit less dialogue (should note that I still haven't seen Sixpence yet, either), whilst everyone else around him will out-shine him completely and he'll get metaphorically pushed to the back. He's good, but it will take a lot to match the stage skills of some of the old pro's without getting swamped by them. Still, there are worse ways to spend 5 weeks at Christmas! And he's probably getting a very nice pay packet also  |
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Post by wickedgrin on Jun 2, 2017 10:53:45 GMT
It's what happens after the panto career wise. Natasha Barnes is reprising her role in Funny Girl on tour - what will happen to her career after that? The same thing with Charlie - what will happen in 2018? Parts like Kipps in HAS don't come around that often. Is it going to tour? Will he tour with it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 10:54:35 GMT
Charlie is one of the breakout performers of the last year (and personally, I find it insane for anyone to say he is just giving a chorus boy performance, but there you go). Much like Natasha was one of the breakout performers of last year. Least we know what formula they are going for with the title roles. So next years panto, look out for the next group of breakouts.
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 2, 2017 10:56:38 GMT
Re pay packet: possibly - though they might have to subsidise his pay against the raft of bigger 'stars' performing alongside him!
But it's an interesting one with Charlie. He's obviously perfect for the role of Arthur Kipps (again, haven't seen it but that's the general consensus), but it is quite a unique type of role and with the perfectly fine singing voice he displays on the cast recording and his great dance skills (but not head and shoulders above others I've seen in musical theatre, based purely on TV appearances), the question does remain, what could he actually do after Sixpence?
But that's not to say he's limited. I saw Natasha Barnes when she started out, untrained, in Spring Awakening, and now she's Fanny Brice. So that's versatility. But I just feel that Charlie is a little bit *more* limited in terms of leading roles, and to come out and make the splash he has done this early in his career, there are so many things that people would see as a 'step back' post-Sixpence, but I just find it quite hard to place him in other leading roles, whereas he would obviously be your perfect ensemble member. Excited to see his career develop whatever happens!
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Post by lou105 on Jun 2, 2017 11:55:00 GMT
It's what happens after the panto career wise. Natasha Barnes is reprising her role in Funny Girl on tour - what will happen to her career after that? The same thing with Charlie - what will happen in 2018? Parts like Kipps in HAS don't come around that often. Is it going to tour? Will he tour with it? A friend suggested him as Bert, if Mary Poppins comes back to town. Maybe a little young, but I can see where they're coming from. |
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Post by zak97 on Jun 2, 2017 12:00:47 GMT
It's what happens after the panto career wise. Natasha Barnes is reprising her role in Funny Girl on tour - what will happen to her career after that? The same thing with Charlie - what will happen in 2018? Parts like Kipps in HAS don't come around that often. Is it going to tour? Will he tour with it? A friend suggested him as Bert, if Mary Poppins comes back to town. Maybe a little young, but I can see where they're coming from. Or Elder Price in Book of Mormon. Although, that would mean a stop to the American imports. |
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Post by zak97 on Jun 2, 2017 12:03:21 GMT
This casting, especially Charlie, is enough to make me want to book.
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 2, 2017 12:43:06 GMT
Can't believe Charlie never mentioned it when we were talking last week after Half a Sixpence. There was me thinking we were BFFs!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 16:54:08 GMT
Lovely. I hope they get La Paige to sing 'Memory'. She never sings that one anymore.
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Post by longinthetooth on Jun 2, 2017 17:30:27 GMT
I can't help but think the average panto-goer is going to say, "who?" on the news of Charlie Stemp. I was anticipating a really big name that most people would have known. In fact, his is the least well known of all the cast, yet he has the titular role. I'm sure thousands of tickets have been sold in advance, before there was any news, then more when Julian Clary, Paul Zerdin and Nigel Havers (last year's residents) were cast, so I guess this announcement won't make much difference in the great scheme of things.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 17:39:25 GMT
I can't help but think the average panto-goer is going to say, "who?" on the news of Charlie Stemp. I was anticipating a really big name that most people would have known. In fact, his is the least well known of all the cast, yet he has the titular role. I'm sure thousands of tickets have been sold in advance, before there was any news, then more when Julian Clary, Paul Zerdin and Nigel Havers (last year's residents) were cast, so I guess this announcement won't make much difference in the great scheme of things. I understand what you mean but Natasha J Barnes was the title character last year, and many wouldn't of heard of her unless you had seen Funny Girl or were a regular theatre goer. It seems Ashley Banjo form Dicersity is going to have a speaking role as he is labelled as "Sultan". I wanna know if this is the full celeb cast now but think it is. I'm glad with it if I'm honet |
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Post by wickedgrin on Jun 3, 2017 0:15:12 GMT
I could see Charlie as Bill in Me & My Girl. It's just about the right shows coming along at the right time - he could be the next generations Michael Ball. The issue is really creating new roles in new shows - as Michael Ball had the opportunity to do with Les Mis. Aspects of Love, Passion and Hairspray.
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Post by carmella1 on Jun 3, 2017 0:21:37 GMT
Next Michael Ball??? No. He has a pleasant enough voice but think of him as Marius? How can you smile through Empty Chairs. He is more a dancer than anything else but Michael Ball never. And I am not a big Michael Ball fan but its
reality check time.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jun 3, 2017 0:31:26 GMT
I wasn't comparing talent. Really only Elaine Paige and Michael Ball have broken through as stars from musical theatre. I was thinking that Charlie and Natasha Barnes may break through in a similar way and be well known from theatre rather than from TV reality shows. No-one seems to become household names now from the theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 1:45:23 GMT
Elaine would have been more suited to the Spirit of the Bells/Fairy BowBells type role I'd have thought. I wonder if they will cast a King Rat too as they had King and Queen Rat in B'ham in 2010/11 with Joan Collins and Nigel Havers. They still haven't cast Alice as far as I know so might get another name in there. Although all of Diversity will eat up a fair bit of casting budget if we add the ensemble dancers in too.
I haven't seen Charlie in Half a Sixpence but from clips I've seen, I'd assume he'd be good in Panto as he can certainly sing and dance and has a good personality. After a longish run in HAS, having a break then going into shorter Panto run keeps him ticking over and allows him to look for other roles in due course.
I could see him doing the more lighter musical roles that Brian Conley and the younger Gary Wilmot did compared to the more vocally challenging roles that Michael Ball has done. Cameron Mac is a huge fan of his and I could see him finding Charlie the right role in one of his shows.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 22:54:40 GMT
Emma Williams to play Alice
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 23:05:22 GMT
I LOVVVVVVVE EMMA!! So glad her and Charlie get to be reunited again!  |
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