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Post by emilyrose on Jun 20, 2016 20:45:24 GMT
I really hope they are not gonna re-record it with Natasha. I am sure she is amazing but it is so disrespectful to Sheridan if they do. I kind of hope they do, or at least put her in the recording. I don't think it disrespectful, she has held the show up and it's one of the best vocal performances I've seen in a show, so she deserves to be credited with something on the album. I'd buy it for her, but not for the Sheridan recording. |
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Post by shady23 on Jun 20, 2016 20:48:23 GMT
I doubt they would, purely as there would be a cost attached to that.
A bonus track would be an appreciative nod to Natasha though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 20:53:18 GMT
I am all for a bonus track or something for Natasha, and true she deserves some credit. But the show revival would not exist in this format without Sheridan and the stuff she brought to the character and the overall show. They edited the show and changed parts of it for her. And if she is having time off because of her mental health or health in general, to go and with a new recording and ditch her vocals, that is disrespectful to her as it makes her contribution to the work throughout rehearsals, the Menier run and the Savoy run seem completely wiped away.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 21:18:54 GMT
I am all for a bonus track or something for Natasha, and true she deserves some credit. But the show revival would not exist in this format without Sheridan and the stuff she brought to the character and the overall show. They edited the show and changed parts of it for her. And if she is having time off because of her mental health or health in general, to go and with a new recording and ditch her vocals, that is disrespectful to her as it makes her contribution to the work throughout rehearsals, the Menier run and the Savoy run seem completely wiped away. Where did the suggestion of rerecording it come from? That's far too expensive. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 21:22:44 GMT
I am all for a bonus track or something for Natasha, and true she deserves some credit. But the show revival would not exist in this format without Sheridan and the stuff she brought to the character and the overall show. They edited the show and changed parts of it for her. And if she is having time off because of her mental health or health in general, to go and with a new recording and ditch her vocals, that is disrespectful to her as it makes her contribution to the work throughout rehearsals, the Menier run and the Savoy run seem completely wiped away. Where did the suggestion of rerecording it come from? That's far too expensive. I can't remember the pages or anything, but someone did suggest it a while back when it was first pushed back, that maybe they would re-record it with Natasha if Sheridan didn't return. |
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Post by emilyrose on Jun 20, 2016 22:10:57 GMT
Where did the suggestion of rerecording it come from? That's far too expensive. I can't remember the pages or anything, but someone did suggest it a while back when it was first pushed back, that maybe they would re-record it with Natasha if Sheridan didn't return. It could always be a possibility that Sheridan hadn't laid her vocals down for it before she took her leave. So they may need to record Natasha or wait for Sheridan. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 4:41:56 GMT
Its not disrespectful if your star isnt coming back or isnt able or willing to complete the recording (i seem to recall someone mentioning she left before the recording was conplete). Plus if they are planning to tour it, and with natasha, its further opportunity to recover costs and have the recording how it should be sung. This isnt really a Martin Guerre situation.
Alternatively the delay could be to allow sheridan to complete vocals on her expected return in july. Or a production delay nothing to do with either actress at all
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Post by d'James on Jun 21, 2016 9:32:35 GMT
What's a Martin Guerre situation?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 9:37:56 GMT
Rebecca lock, the then understudy, is on the recording instead of leading lady Juliette Caton
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Post by d'James on Jun 21, 2016 9:45:56 GMT
There's a similar thing on the London Children of Eden recording isn't there? Anyone know why?
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Post by alece10 on Jun 21, 2016 11:39:49 GMT
Great performance from Natasha last night and amazing audience reaction. Pretty much full standing ovation at the end from the stalls. She also seemed quite emotional at the end.
However good her performance is she does not compare with Sheridan in my opinion. I guess it's the difference between a good actress and a great actress. Sheridans comic timing is exceptional.
Both my friends who went with me had also seen Sheridan at the Menier and said the same.
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Post by stevej678 on Jun 21, 2016 17:40:06 GMT
There's no chance the cast recording would be re-done with Natasha. I expect it will either be released with Sheridan's vocals (presumably subject to her actually returning to the show) or it will be shelved and never see the light of day.
It's a moot point but I'm not sure I follow the logic that if they did revisit the cast recording with Natasha, however, that it would be disrespecting Sheridan.
Respect surely works two ways but in Sheridan's time with the show there's been the rants about her employers ('They don't give a **** about my dad'), the spats on Twitter with the public ('Come say **** to my face & we'll see what happens'), to say nothing of the press speculation about the alleged 'technical difficulties'.
I can't help thinking that rather than feeling disrespected, if anything Sheridan has reason to be grateful that she has a supportive employer who has allowed her an extended period of absence, as well as owing gratitude to Natasha and the rest of the company for doing such a sterling job in keeping the show running (and earning rave reviews) in her absence.
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Post by theatre-turtle on Jun 22, 2016 13:33:24 GMT
If anyone is interested there's 5 day seats at £25 on the ATG site remaining for tonight
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Post by emilyrose on Jun 22, 2016 15:10:07 GMT
If anyone is interested there's 5 day seats at £25 on the ATG site remaining for tonight Wow, that's great! Do they come up often online? |
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Post by theatremadness on Jun 22, 2016 15:15:53 GMT
If anyone is interested there's 5 day seats at £25 on the ATG site remaining for tonight Wow, that's great! Do they come up often online? Hard to say, they will come up if there are any unsold after the day seat queue has ended. They are £10 more than they would be buying them in person, but since Sheridan isn't in the show at the moment, the day seat queue will probably be quieter than normal some days, so there will be a higher probability of them being available than normal - so I'd advise to just check the ATG website every day if you can! Guys & Dolls more often than not have their front row stalls on sale online for £17 for if you check on the day of the show, but that'll probably be less likely whilst Rebel Wilson is in the show. |
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Post by orchestrator on Jun 22, 2016 22:38:01 GMT
It”s not quite the same but when Company opened in London they released a new cast album which was pretty much the original Broadway Cast Album but with Larry Kert replacing Dean Jones’s vocal tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 10:18:42 GMT
Well. Natasha is a bit of a delight isn't she?
She seems more comfortable in the role than Sheridan did and I think as an all-round performance it's better. She's just as at ease with the dramatic stuff as the comedy stuff and indeed, the comedy seems more 'natural' with her than with Sheridan where it was very forced and hammy ("look at just how funny I can be and you ARE going to think me hysterical"). Where I think she really does come out of this better than Sheridan is that she is a magnanimous co-star and allows them to have their little moments to shine when she's on stage with them whereas with Sheridan they were simply background stage decoration that she completely overpowered but when she's front and centre Natasha is terrific. Plus, she can sing the score a lot better. 'People' swoops and soars and 'Don't Rain On My Parade' is the barnstorming belter it always should be.
The real stars of the show are still Marilyn Cutts and Joel Montague though.
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Post by horton on Jun 23, 2016 11:10:46 GMT
There's a similar thing on the London Children of Eden recording isn't there? Anyone know why? By the time of the recording Earlene Bentley had returned to the USA where she was living at the time. There was a dispute about air fares or unavailability as I recall so Jacqui covered for the recording. It's over 20 years ago though so memory is foggy. No disrespect intended, but Earlene can be heard on the sound board recording and is in a league of her own! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 12:11:50 GMT
Where I think she really does come out of this better than Sheridan is that she is a magnanimous co-star and allows them to have their little moments to shine when she's on stage with them whereas with Sheridan they were simply background stage decoration that she completely overpowered but when she's front and centre Natasha is terrific. Whereas I'd say that's kind of the point. It's Fanny's story - how she became a star and commanded audience attention, despite the fact she wasn't what was considered typical 'star material' at the time. So it's only right your attention is drawn to the star. Hard not to overpower Darius tbh - he's not exactly Mr Charisma, is he? But I didn't feel the mature ladies suffered, or indeed the chap who not-so-secretly fancied Fanny. Their stories made sense even within the 'it's all about Fanny' structure. And reading that back - oh, how I wish her name was different... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 18:38:56 GMT
May I just ask, I'm not sure why people are saying IF she comes back. She (and the producers) have announced she will return and even put a date on it, something they wouldn't of done is she wasn't returning.
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Post by stevej678 on Jun 23, 2016 19:01:28 GMT
May I just ask, I'm not sure why people are saying IF she comes back. She (and the producers) have announced she will return and even put a date on it, something they wouldn't of done is she wasn't returning. They previously said she would be back in 2-4 weeks and she wasn't. This time is no different, they've just referred to a week they hope she might be back instead of phrasing it as another 4 weeks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 19:16:51 GMT
May I just ask, I'm not sure why people are saying IF she comes back. She (and the producers) have announced she will return and even put a date on it, something they wouldn't of done is she wasn't returning. They previously said she would be back in 2-4 weeks and she wasn't. This time is no different, they've just referred to a week they hope she might be back instead of phrasing it as another 4 weeks. But they said "Sheridan really wants to return and this has always been her I entire" and that "anything said otherwise is unhelpful and untrue". They then said that she'll "be back no later than w/c 11th July)". Surely, they wouldn't put a date on it if she wasn't returning and if she isn't returning they would say to avoid people changing tickets and everything else. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 23, 2016 19:23:24 GMT
I'm past caring, frankly.
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Post by stevej678 on Jun 23, 2016 19:31:18 GMT
They previously said she would be back in 2-4 weeks and she wasn't. This time is no different, they've just referred to a week they hope she might be back instead of phrasing it as another 4 weeks. But they said "Sheridan really wants to return and this has always been her I entire" and that "anything said otherwise is unhelpful and untrue". They then said that she'll "be back no later than w/c 11th July)". Surely, they wouldn't put a date on it if she wasn't returning and if she isn't returning they would say to avoid people changing tickets and everything else. The only thing the most recent statement told us was that we could expect to see Natasha for the next few weeks. A statement had to be made once the press picked up on the previous 2-4 week deadline having expired and the producers made that statement - what else could they do other than say she's not coming back? I thought at the time it seemed a bit over-the-top using phrases such as " incredibly keen" rather than just "keen" - almost like they were trying too hard to put a positive spin on the news that her absence was going to be extended. My guess is the producers may not know themselves if she's returning but I have to say that overall I'm with BurlyBear on this one! |
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Post by Michael on Jun 23, 2016 19:47:56 GMT
They then said that she'll "be back no later than w/c 11th July)". You do realise that technically this could also mean she'll be only doing the 16th Evening show? |
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