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Post by squidward on Oct 29, 2018 1:49:37 GMT
Well you learn something new every day.
I saw the Adrian Lester version (which may or may not have been directed by Sam Mendes) and the Chichester version. Apart from the songs that are obviously supposed to be comical, I actually found the show to be pretty dark overall, verging on the misanthropic actually.
Apparently there was a documentary made at the time of the original production about the rush recording of the album which I'd love to see but can't source anywhere.
I know Bill Hader is doing a spoof of it on his 'Documentary Now' series for tx next year on HBO.
I still think 'The funniest musical I've ever seen' is an odd quote to pick out of all the plaudits in the reviews though.
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Post by squidward on Oct 29, 2018 2:03:37 GMT
I would say the marketing as a comedy is pretty on board with both the original material and this direction. Indeed most people familar with it have commented on just how funny this version is. And after all the best comedies are in fact the ones that also rip your heart out at the same time. Do you mean musical comedies or comedies in general? I do agree that the best comedies need to have heart, which is why so many of the mean spirited modern TV comedies leave me cold (I used to be a TV comedy producer and one of my reasons for throwing in the towel was the kind of gratuitously nasty and vulgar scripts that kept landing on my desk). I'm not sure about the rip your heart out factor though. I'd be interested to hear what kind of comedies you're referencing (particularly on stage). I've been thinking about it and am finding it hard to come up with much of a list myself. |
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Post by abitoftap on Oct 29, 2018 8:06:09 GMT
Well you learn something new every day. I saw the Adrian Lester version (which may or may not have been directed by Sam Mendes) and the Chichester version. Apart from the songs that are obviously supposed to be comical, I actually found the show to be pretty dark overall, verging on the misanthropic actually. Apparently there was a documentary made at the time of the original production about the rush recording of the album which I'd love to see but can't source anywhere. I know Bill Hader is doing a spoof of it on his 'Documentary Now' series for tx next year on HBO. I still think 'The funniest musical I've ever seen' is an odd quote to pick out of all the plaudits in the reviews though. The documentary is on YouTube. Just search Company D A Pennebaker. He's the guy who did Don't Look Back, the doc of Dylan's 65 UK tour. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 8:20:36 GMT
I would say the marketing as a comedy is pretty on board with both the original material and this direction. Indeed most people familar with it have commented on just how funny this version is. And after all the best comedies are in fact the ones that also rip your heart out at the same time. Do you mean musical comedies or comedies in general? I do agree that the best comedies need to have heart, which is why so many of the mean spirited modern TV comedies leave me cold (I used to be a TV comedy producer and one of my reasons for throwing in the towel was the kind of gratuitously nasty and vulgar scripts that kept landing on my desk). I'm not sure about the rip your heart out factor though. I'd be interested to hear what kind of comedies you're referencing (particularly on stage). I've been thinking about it and am finding it hard to come up with much of a list myself. I was in that comment referring back to my sitcom comment - the best sitcoms in my very humble opinion are the ones that can make you cry as well as laugh. So for example last night I happened to re-watch the episode of Friends where Phoebe has her babies. It's still hilarious, and silly at times...but I still cry when Phoebe says goodbye to the babies. That's my 'early morning top of my head' example. Plays/musicals wise I'm sure there are some actually. It's a bit early and I have to leave for work. But I'll return to that... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 8:29:59 GMT
Well you learn something new every day. I saw the Adrian Lester version (which may or may not have been directed by Sam Mendes) and the Chichester version. Apart from the songs that are obviously supposed to be comical, I actually found the show to be pretty dark overall, verging on the misanthropic actually. Apparently there was a documentary made at the time of the original production about the rush recording of the album which I'd love to see but can't source anywhere. I know Bill Hader is doing a spoof of it on his 'Documentary Now' series for tx next year on HBO. I still think 'The funniest musical I've ever seen' is an odd quote to pick out of all the plaudits in the reviews though. The documentary is on YouTube. Just search Company D A Pennebaker. He's the guy who did Don't Look Back, the doc of Dylan's 65 UK tour. “Can’t source anywhere”... how hard didn’t you look? There’s atleast two versions of it on YouTube, maybe more. It’s really quite easy to find. |
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Post by freckles on Oct 29, 2018 9:07:58 GMT
Do you mean musical comedies or comedies in general? I do agree that the best comedies need to have heart, which is why so many of the mean spirited modern TV comedies leave me cold (I used to be a TV comedy producer and one of my reasons for throwing in the towel was the kind of gratuitously nasty and vulgar scripts that kept landing on my desk). I'm not sure about the rip your heart out factor though. I'd be interested to hear what kind of comedies you're referencing (particularly on stage). I've been thinking about it and am finding it hard to come up with much of a list myself. I was in that comment referring back to my sitcom comment - the best sitcoms in my very humble opinion are the ones that can make you cry as well as laugh. So for example last night I happened to re-watch the episode of Friends where Phoebe has her babies. It's still hilarious, and silly at times...but I still cry when Phoebe says goodbye to the babies. That's my 'early morning top of my head' example. Plays/musicals wise I'm sure there are some actually. It's a bit early and I have to leave for work. But I'll return to that... It does have a kind of "Friends" vibe to it, I thought...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 9:11:18 GMT
I was in that comment referring back to my sitcom comment - the best sitcoms in my very humble opinion are the ones that can make you cry as well as laugh. So for example last night I happened to re-watch the episode of Friends where Phoebe has her babies. It's still hilarious, and silly at times...but I still cry when Phoebe says goodbye to the babies. That's my 'early morning top of my head' example. Plays/musicals wise I'm sure there are some actually. It's a bit early and I have to leave for work. But I'll return to that... It does have a kind of "Friends" vibe to it, I thought...
Marianne is a big fan of Friends- there's an article somewhere where she talked about watching it with her daughter. Also somewhere in the promotion it was talked about as 'Friends meets Sex and the City' which a lot of the purists were up in arms about! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 9:28:18 GMT
Do you mean musical comedies or comedies in general? I do agree that the best comedies need to have heart, which is why so many of the mean spirited modern TV comedies leave me cold (I used to be a TV comedy producer and one of my reasons for throwing in the towel was the kind of gratuitously nasty and vulgar scripts that kept landing on my desk). I'm not sure about the rip your heart out factor though. I'd be interested to hear what kind of comedies you're referencing (particularly on stage). I've been thinking about it and am finding it hard to come up with much of a list myself. I was in that comment referring back to my sitcom comment - the best sitcoms in my very humble opinion are the ones that can make you cry as well as laugh. So for example last night I happened to re-watch the episode of Friends where Phoebe has her babies. It's still hilarious, and silly at times...but I still cry when Phoebe says goodbye to the babies. That's my 'early morning top of my head' example. Plays/musicals wise I'm sure there are some actually. It's a bit early and I have to leave for work. But I'll return to that... I’d add the end of Blackadder Goes Forth and the last episode of the most recent season of Upstart Crow to this one. I thought Master of None did a great balancing act but I still haven't reconciled myself with Aziz Ansari. Strongest rip your heart out/make you laugh factor of recent times has to be Nanette, by Hannah Gadsby. Obvs not a sitcom though. This has turned into more of a list of things I have enjoyed than a cogent comment. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 10:27:16 GMT
I was in that comment referring back to my sitcom comment - the best sitcoms in my very humble opinion are the ones that can make you cry as well as laugh. So for example last night I happened to re-watch the episode of Friends where Phoebe has her babies. It's still hilarious, and silly at times...but I still cry when Phoebe says goodbye to the babies. That's my 'early morning top of my head' example. Plays/musicals wise I'm sure there are some actually. It's a bit early and I have to leave for work. But I'll return to that... I’d add the end of Blackadder Goes Forth and the last episode of the most recent season of Upstart Crow to this one. I thought Master of None did a great balancing act but I still haven't reconciled myself with Aziz Ansari. Strongest rip your heart out/make you laugh factor of recent times has to be Nanette, by Hannah Gadsby. Obvs not a sitcom though. This has turned into more of a list of things I have enjoyed than a cogent comment. At least a couple of Inside no 9 episodes end up very teary. 12 days of Christine with Sheridan Smith and Bernie Clifton’s Dressing Room as a mostly two hander with Pemberton and Shearsmith. The Office, Larry Sanders finales too. Many classic comedies don’t get emotional though and they still work fine. Thinking of classics like Fawlty Towers. |
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Post by alece10 on Oct 29, 2018 12:38:36 GMT
Looks like Jonathan Bailey had a night out with Patti and they went to the O2 to see countingcrows (whoever they might be) according to Instagram
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Post by squidward on Oct 29, 2018 13:10:34 GMT
The documentary is on YouTube. Just search Company D A Pennebaker. He's the guy who did Don't Look Back, the doc of Dylan's 65 UK tour. “Can’t source anywhere”... how hard didn’t you look? There’s atleast two versions of it on YouTube, maybe more. It’s really quite easy to find. What is the point of making a snarky comment like that? I don’t have any intention of going into the answer to your question because a theatreboard isn’t the place for it, but if I did so, I think you may rethink making remarks like that. I thought this board was supposed to be ( generally) a friendly place? |
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Post by squidward on Oct 29, 2018 13:13:25 GMT
Well you learn something new every day. I saw the Adrian Lester version (which may or may not have been directed by Sam Mendes) and the Chichester version. Apart from the songs that are obviously supposed to be comical, I actually found the show to be pretty dark overall, verging on the misanthropic actually. Apparently there was a documentary made at the time of the original production about the rush recording of the album which I'd love to see but can't source anywhere. I know Bill Hader is doing a spoof of it on his 'Documentary Now' series for tx next year on HBO. I still think 'The funniest musical I've ever seen' is an odd quote to pick out of all the plaudits in the reviews though. The documentary is on YouTube. Just search Company D A Pennebaker. He's the guy who did Don't Look Back, the doc of Dylan's 65 UK tour. Thank you for this info. I’m very keen to see it, even more So now I know it’s going to be part of the new ‘Documentary Now’ series. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 13:55:55 GMT
The documentary is on YouTube. Just search Company D A Pennebaker. He's the guy who did Don't Look Back, the doc of Dylan's 65 UK tour. “Can’t source anywhere”... how hard didn’t you look? There’s atleast two versions of it on YouTube, maybe more. It’s really quite easy to find. I think there might be a bit of a generational thing here. I would never think to go to YouTube to find a documentary. I only recently realised there was anything other than millennials self-promoting on there. |
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Post by alece10 on Oct 29, 2018 14:22:59 GMT
Just been shortlisted for 4 Evening Standard awards.
Best design
Best musical performance Rosalie Craig
Best musical
Best director
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Post by showtoones on Oct 29, 2018 14:41:16 GMT
Just been shortlisted for 4 Evening Standard awards. Best design Best musical performance Rosalie Craig Best musical Best director Where's Patti and Jonathan on the list?!? They were robbed... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 15:04:11 GMT
Just been shortlisted for 4 Evening Standard awards. Best design Best musical performance Rosalie Craig Best musical Best director Ou est Patti et Jonny B? All those great performances in 'Company' and they pick Rosalie Craig. Disgusting. The only time I have seen the Evening Standard is when I'm pulling it off my shoe on the tube. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 16:04:42 GMT
If they split awards for Lead Performance and Supporting, then Company would get alot more nominations. I'm sure they'll both get recognised in the more important Oliviers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 19:33:40 GMT
Just been shortlisted for 4 Evening Standard awards. Best design Best musical performance Rosalie Craig Best musical Best director Where's Patti and Jonathan on the list?!? They were robbed... They don’t have supporting role categories. Usually their default is to give the awards to the most famous person on each list. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 19:39:47 GMT
Evening Standard are all dodgy, because you can only have one from each show too I believe in each category. Matt Henry didn't get hominated for Kinky Boots but Killian did. It's very weird. That said, four nominations is the highest this year, and is the start of alot of nominations for them this year!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 19:46:21 GMT
That's a ridiculous rule, but oh well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 10:02:04 GMT
The Evening Standard awards are complete BS, especially if you're a musicals fan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 10:16:37 GMT
I'm the most underrated choreographer in town, Monkey, and I simply WILL NOT REST until my genius is acknowledged by oligarchs.
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Post by wickedgrin on Oct 30, 2018 12:25:13 GMT
Well like others I thought this was FAB-U-LOUS last night.
No point in repeating what other have said but I thought the direction and design were stunning.
As an elderly male I have to admit I had my reservations about the gender swap with the role of Bobby/Bobbie but any doubts were blown away last night. I felt the show actually worked better with a female lead. I think this will become the definitive version quite honestly and no male actor will ever get their hands on the role of Bobby ever again!
This production is the funniest I have seen (previous versions rather dark and angsty). Some scene sequences were sublime. The entire cast are marvellous. The show is very cynical about marriage though and there was plenty of knowing laughter from the audience especially I suspect from the singles! How would the show resonate with married couples?
Patti LuPone gives a masterclass nightly on how to deliver a musical number.
Johanthan Bailey was not only delightful to look at but nearly stole the show with "I'm not getting married".
Richard Fleeshman was gorgeous.
I had a wonderful evening and I will have to go back again (and again).
5 HUGE stars!
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Post by tysilio2 on Oct 30, 2018 13:32:40 GMT
For those purchasing advance tickets, is the best option the theatre website or are there other (better) options?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 14:04:05 GMT
How would the show resonate with married couples? In the almost five decades (1970) the show has been around odds are that a lot of married couples have attended and recognized elements of themselves among the stories on stage, perhaps even more than singles in the audiences. |
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