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Post by BGLowe on Apr 29, 2017 13:14:49 GMT
I wonder if women of a certain age will be complaining about Alfie's absence! There were histrionics at the box office last year when Glenn missed a few shows. I can confirm all 10 women in front of me complained at the box office! |
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Post by BGLowe on Apr 29, 2017 13:15:13 GMT
I'm there this afternoon! Following reports about Alfie I'm not too fussed to be missing him. Im there too! Its the show i bought tkt for anyhow☺ I'm up in the gods! Enjoy! |
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 29, 2017 14:59:37 GMT
Im there too! Its the show i bought tkt for anyhow☺ I'm up in the gods! Enjoy! At interval. Very good so far. Alex Young stealing the show in a good cast. Score sounds amazing natch. |
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Post by loureviews on Apr 29, 2017 17:02:21 GMT
I'm up in the gods! Enjoy! At interval. Very good so far. Alex Young stealing the show in a good cast. Score sounds amazing natch. How was the Soliloquy at the end of Act 1? |
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Post by BGLowe on Apr 29, 2017 17:02:55 GMT
Well I loved it. The only criticism I have is the second half (particularly the last 40 minutes) is very rushed. Will was fantastic with a lovely strong voice. Didn't mind Katherine at all after some reservations. Loved the support and the orchestra. Wonderful!
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 29, 2017 17:57:02 GMT
At interval. Very good so far. Alex Young stealing the show in a good cast. Score sounds amazing natch. How was the Soliloquy at the end of Act 1? Spine-tingling! |
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 29, 2017 18:00:27 GMT
Well I loved it. The only criticism I have is the second half (particularly the last 40 minutes) is very rushed. Will was fantastic with a lovely strong voice. Didn't mind Katherine at all after some reservations. Loved the support and the orchestra. Wonderful! It was great wasnt it? Not ashamed to say i had a tear in my eye as i stood clapping😄 |
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 29, 2017 18:35:10 GMT
Lucky people seeing Carousel today. I can imagine Will Barrett is far better suited to the role of Billy than Alfie Boe is. Will Barrett was also in the Savoy production & if I remember correctly also covered Billy in that, though I don't know if he went on.
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Post by fiyero on Apr 29, 2017 18:58:28 GMT
When do we think It'll be announced who is on Monday. I am kind of hoping Alfie takes an extra day to feel better from some of the reviews on here.
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Post by Steffi on Apr 29, 2017 19:12:34 GMT
Alfie has tweeted he will be back on Monday. If that is a definite - who knows.
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Post by martin1965 on Apr 29, 2017 21:56:07 GMT
When do we think It'll be announced who is on Monday. I am kind of hoping Alfie takes an extra day to feel better from some of the reviews on here. [br Cant comment on Alfie but Will Barratt was excellent and deserved his standing ovation. Plus thought La Jenkins was good too. |
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Post by justafan on Apr 30, 2017 9:56:15 GMT
Well that was the best £13.75 I've paid for a Saturday matinee ... Will Barratt's Soliloquy was amazingly good ... beautiful tones and excellent diction ... Ms Jenkins appeared as proud as punch of him too
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 30, 2017 10:21:07 GMT
Well that was the best £13.75 I've paid for a Saturday matinee ... Will Barratt's Soliloquy was amazingly good ... beautiful tones and excellent diction ... Ms Jenkins appeared as proud as punch of him too the £13.75 seats a bloody steal! |
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Post by shady23 on Apr 30, 2017 10:26:30 GMT
Alfie has tweeted he will be back on Monday. If that is a definite - who knows. He is guest on the Michael Ball show on BBC Two this morning so must be better. |
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Post by loureviews on Apr 30, 2017 18:25:31 GMT
My review of Friday's show.
Carousel (London Coliseum)
This musical is one of my firm favourites, but the lead casting choices didn’t fill me with joy when they were first announced. I’m familiar with both Katherine Jenkins and Alfie Boe as popular singers of mainly operatic fare (although neither have ever sung in a full-length opera), and to me they were hardly the embodiment of Billy Bigelow and Julie Jordan.
However, the supporting cast and the spectacular full-staging has been gathering praise despite some lukewarm reviews from both professional and blogging critics, and I do like the score, so I bit the bullet and bought a couple of tickets in the Upper Circle, which were overpriced and allowed fairly awful views and minimal leg room.
The show, though, has some great numbers and the ensemble pieces were well-delivered (‘June Is Bustin’ Out All Over’, ‘Blow High, Blow Low’, ‘What’s The Use of Wond’rin’), with some excellent chorus work and choreography. Derek Hagen as Jigger, Brenda Edwards as Nettie, and Davide Fienauri as the dancing Carnival Boy need special mention as they lifted the energy and engagement levels whenever they appeared.
Gavin Spokes gives a real comic edge as well as some serious singing class to the role of Mr Snow, while Alex Young is a splendid Carrie, rightly getting warm applause for ‘When I Marry Mr Snow’ and ‘When The Children Are Asleep’. This last song is a duet between Young and Spokes, who demonstrate the chemistry that is sadly lacking in the big lead duet ‘If I Loved You’, which should pull the audience in to the sudden emotional and deep love between Billy and Julie.
Let’s talk about Katherine Jenkins as Julie. It’s been reported that as well as company voice coaching she has been receiving private acting lessons, and they have rubbed off as well as can be expected. However she cannot both sing sweetly and put across the complex emotional range needed for the character, leaving her numbers to be simply very nice to listen to for the melody. But in Act Two, where she has to engage with her wayward daughter, she’s fairly convincing, and her casting wasn’t the disaster I feared.
Which leaves Alfie Boe as Billy. Reviews have not been kind, primarily to the wig which has now been replaced with something more in keeping to what a carnival barker might have worn. His acting has been derided, too, with him being described as ‘a floorboard’, ‘a child pretending to be an adult’, and similar.
It may be the way the role was directed, but his stance is not in the least sexy or smouldering as it should be, and he’s just not convincing, and we don’t really understand what Julie sees in him. In fact at the start of the big seven-minute Act One closer, ‘Soliloquy’, the way he stood made me think of the actors who taught thick Prince George how to deliver a speech in Blackadder.
The ‘Soliloquy’, though, is the undoubted highlight of the role, and by the end, the strength of the song came through and the effect was rather touching; we did, at last, believe that this man had found the heart within himself on discovering he was to become a father.
The staging though was odd, with the revolving circle which had been used to great effect in the opening ‘Carousel Waltz’ overture to introduce all the character and the show’s name itself, in letters revolving, oddly, backwards. In the ‘Soliloquy’ Boe spent most of the number alone, as is right and proper for a number in which the character vocalises his thoughts, but I expected a bit more use of both space and backdrops than we got.
Act Two started with some drama, as we were told that Alfie Boe had been feeling progressively ill during the first act and was unable to continue, leaving understudy Will Barratt to come on and deal with the tricky scenes of Billy’s death, engagement with the Starmarker (Nicholas Lyndhurst, in little more than a cameo), and as an invisible observer to his daughter’s childhood. It would be hard to judge Barratt’s singing in Act Two as not much is required, but I felt he acted the part better, overall, and had a more believable engagement with Jenkins, as well as with Amy Everett, playing their daughter Louise.
Lonny Price directs, and Josh Rhodes is the choreographer, with David Charles Abell conducting the ENO Orchestra. And no matter what the publicity says, this is most certainly not a semi-staged musical, there is a full set, costumes and flavour. I can’t recommend it unreservedly due to the weakness of the two leads, but it is not the dud I thought it would be.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 30, 2017 20:50:58 GMT
This musical is one of my firm favourites, but the lead casting choices didn’t fill me with joy when they were first announced. I’m familiar with both Katherine Jenkins and Alfie Boe as popular singers of mainly operatic fare (although neither have ever sung in a full-length opera), and to me they were hardly the embodiment of Billy Bigelow and Julie Jordan. Just to say, in fairness to Boe, he sang in a number of full-length operas for several years, before leaving them for a doubtless more lucrative career doing concerts & musicals. |
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Post by loureviews on Apr 30, 2017 21:21:11 GMT
Did he ever sing a lead role though? If he did I'm doing him a disservice but it certainly didn't teach him any acting skills.
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Post by gra on Apr 30, 2017 21:26:05 GMT
This musical is one of my firm favourites, but the lead casting choices didn’t fill me with joy when they were first announced. I’m familiar with both Katherine Jenkins and Alfie Boe as popular singers of mainly operatic fare (although neither have ever sung in a full-length opera), and to me they were hardly the embodiment of Billy Bigelow and Julie Jordan. Just to say, in fairness to Boe, he sang in a number of full-length operas for several years, before leaving them for a doubtless more lucrative career doing concerts & musicals. Yes. He was a principal at English National Opera for several years and is quite capable of projecting to the back of the London Coliseum over a large orchestra without a mike. But he is basically a tenor, and Billy ideally requires a high baritone voice. |
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Post by theatremadness on Apr 30, 2017 21:58:36 GMT
Did he ever sing a lead role though? If he did I'm doing him a disservice but it certainly didn't teach him any acting skills. But part of your point still stands, I'd say. A terrific operatic singer, but from what I know of classic training, *almost* no attention is paid to acting. And that's not really a dig a Boe, more of a dig at the training. Boe has great personality and fantastic charisma, but as Alfie Boe. Not as a character, in my opinion. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 30, 2017 22:04:42 GMT
Did he ever sing a lead role though? If he did I'm doing him a disservice but it certainly didn't teach him any acting skills. I saw him as Camille de Rossilon in The Merry Widow & Nanki-Poo in The Mikado, plus the Italian Singer in Der Rosenkavalier though that doesn't require much acting. His acting in the operettas was perfectly reasonable. Granted Carousel requires more depth but I imagine the pretty terrible reviews for Carousel are more because he's wrong for the role than because he can't act full stop. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 1, 2017 7:35:13 GMT
Check out the Glynebourene touring opera video of him playing one of the leads in La Boheme
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Post by gra on May 1, 2017 7:50:12 GMT
Did he ever sing a lead role though? If he did I'm doing him a disservice but it certainly didn't teach him any acting skills. But part of your point still stands, I'd say. A terrific operatic singer, but from what I know of classic training, *almost* no attention is paid to acting. And that's not really a dig a Boe, more of a dig at the training. Boe has great personality and fantastic charisma, but as Alfie Boe. Not as a character, in my opinion. I saw him in the tenor lead in 'Pearl Fishers' with ENO. A bit unfair re professional opera training. In the past certainly acting was not the priority, but nowadays many of the top singers are tremendous actors as well. |
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Post by theatremadness on May 1, 2017 10:01:58 GMT
But part of your point still stands, I'd say. A terrific operatic singer, but from what I know of classic training, *almost* no attention is paid to acting. And that's not really a dig a Boe, more of a dig at the training. Boe has great personality and fantastic charisma, but as Alfie Boe. Not as a character, in my opinion. I saw him in the tenor lead in 'Pearl Fishers' with ENO. A bit unfair re professional opera training. In the past certainly acting was not the priority, but nowadays many of the top singers are tremendous actors as well. Yes you're absolutely right, I'm just going from personal experience  sometimes you just have 'it' and/or you seek 'it' elsewhere! Again, absolutely not a dig at any opera performers! |
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Post by countryjames on May 1, 2017 12:48:45 GMT
The acting side is considered extremely important in classical training these days, which is hardly surprising given the need of singers to meet the directorial demands put upon them of people such as, for example, Katie Mitchell, Deborah Warner, Cal McCrystal, Nicholas Hytner, Rory Kinner and Phelim McDermott...
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Post by theatremadness on May 1, 2017 12:56:06 GMT
^ That's good to know!
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sometimes you just have 'it' and/or you seek 'it' elsewhere! Again, absolutely not a dig at any opera performers!